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11 hours ago, southernguy said:

Personally I thinks it's great truckers are doing what they are doing and it has spread to other countries. Give me a break, those guys have about as much contact with people as a lighthouse operator.

What kills me is that on one of the Canadian newspapers today I saw that almost 80% vaxed in Canada yet number of hospitalizations and infections still on the rise.

You are still willfully ignorant. What part of being vaccinated doesn't keep you from getting infected is confusing to you? What part of the unvaccinated being the majority of hospitalizations don't you understand?

As for it being "great what the truckers are doing", these are same people who ranted against lockdowns because of how it was devastating to businesses and the economy. Now they suddenly don't care about business losses, obviously. Their friggin' convoy has devasted local businesses. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/8583758/trucker-protest-ottawa-downtown-businesses-restaurants/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/local/ottawa/2022/2/2/1_5765373.html

 

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8 hours ago, Ferret said:

Posting on a public forum is tame compared to what is happening in Ottawa. imho, all the truckers involved should lose their licenses and have their trucks confiscated for their actions. Don't want to follow the rules? Buhbye.

https://ca.yahoo.com/finance/news/refile-ottawa-police-promise-tougher-150915050.html

So, what do you have to cut to shut an air horn up?

 

Actually, Canadians from all over are taking to the streets because they are sick and tired of COVID restrictions. In Europe, many countries will be announcing the end of the pandemic and treating it as a seasonal matter. Will have this conversation the day there is a food shortage at your local supermarket.  

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On 1/27/2022 at 1:22 PM, happyjillin said:

I know what major pre-existing conditions I have If I contract covid any one of them will kill me and my severe COPD will croak me in less than 24 hrs. I  don't want no idjut anywhere near me that is a dumbazz about this dangerous WORLDWIDE KILLER.

And you are the same guy driving a motorcycle with a bunch want to be bad boys and the only one not wearing a safety helmet. 😒

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52 minutes ago, HoneyBee said:

Actually, Canadians from all over are taking to the streets because they are sick and tired of COVID restrictions. 

"Canadians" are not taking to the streets. A small minority are. The majority of Canadians are supportive of resrictions to address the pandemic and protect citizens.

In case you haven't been paying attention, Canada has 81,663 infections per 1 million population compared to the US's 233,512 per 1 million. 

Whose approach has worked better? 

As far as these convoy jerks promoting "freedom", that's a bunch of total hogwash. What they are promoting is self-interest. They quite obviously don't give a ff that their behavior is depriving residents of their freedom- preventing them from going about their daily lives. 

https://www.rawstory.com/freedom-convoy/

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13 hours ago, mudgirl said:

"Canadians" are not taking to the streets. A small minority are. The majority of Canadians are supportive of resrictions to address the pandemic and protect citizens.

In case you haven't been paying attention, Canada has 81,663 infections per 1 million population compared to the US's 233,512 per 1 million. 

Whose approach has worked better? 

As far as these convoy jerks promoting "freedom", that's a bunch of total hogwash. What they are promoting is self-interest. They quite obviously don't give a ff that their behavior is depriving residents of their freedom- preventing them from going about their daily lives. 

https://www.rawstory.com/freedom-convoy/

Maybe you should read the news today, the "minority" protests are spinning out of control.

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13 minutes ago, HoneyBee said:

Maybe you should read the news today, the "minority" protests are spinning out of control.

No, they are being actively closed down, and FYI, the national Trucking Association in Canada does NOT support these occupations or even the "protests"...in fact they have denounced them.    90% of truckers are vaxxed, they are the responsible, hard working ones who deserve our thanks and gratitude.    Not these moronic bozos who have time to bring bouncy castles, saunas, DJ's, fireworks and hot tubs to parking lots and downtown streets and call it a "protest".     While most of the organizers, stay in hotels.     And the hotels will probably kick them out as many of them are violating health regulations and hotel rules anyway.      

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4 hours ago, HoneyBee said:

Maybe you should read the news today, the "minority" protests are spinning out of control.

That's what happens when a minority represents the type of people who are loud, obnoxious, self-centered, disrespectful, unable to police themselves and think it's okay for protesting to make residents' daily lives impossible.

There are people there carrying US Confederate flags and Trump flags, and showing off their swastikas. This isn't about Canada or vaccine mandates, it's more of the same we saw on Jan. 6. 

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18 minutes ago, mudgirl said:

, it's more of the same we saw on Jan. 6. 

...or the peaceful BLM protests, eh?

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Gosh. Gee. Why ever do you think that the confederate flag and Trump flags are being flown in Canada? Because this B.S. is being funded by disruptive elements in the U.S. 

Take their licenses, take their rigs, take their fuel and haul them off to jail. Lots of drivers who care enough about their fellow citizens to fill their shoes. Special breaking news... Auction of rigs upcoming.

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19 minutes ago, Ferret said:

Gosh. Gee. Why ever do you think that the confederate flag and Trump flags are being flown in Canada? Because this B.S. is being funded by disruptive elements in the U.S. 

Take their licenses, take their rigs, take their fuel and haul them off to jail. Lots of drivers who care enough about their fellow citizens to fill their shoes. Special breaking news... Auction of rigs upcoming.

Is Canada not one of US largest states ?

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On 2/6/2022 at 11:24 AM, AlanMexicali said:

"Jacobin is a leading voice of the American left, offering socialist perspectives on politics, economics, and culture."

https://jacobinmag.com/about

I've noted people like to critique sources as right-wing here. It's odd no one quite cares the other way.

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Probably because LEFT wing sources care about other people and RIGHT wing sources are agitating bullies who only care about themselves.

Love the sign that a counter protester is carrying that says "Get the TRUCK out!"

'Freedom Convoy' raises millions on Christian site after GoFundMe freezes donations | Ottawa Citizen

Judge orders truckers' horns silenced | Ottawa Citizen

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2 minutes ago, Ferret said:

Probably because LEFT wing sources care about other people and RIGHT wing sources are agitating bullies who only care about themselves.

Love the sign that a counter protester is carrying that says "Get the TRUCK out!"

'Freedom Convoy' raises millions on Christian site after GoFundMe freezes donations | Ottawa Citizen

Judge orders truckers' horns silenced | Ottawa Citizen

I see. It makes the argument easy when you essentially append "right" and "wrong" to sides as you deem appropriate, doesn't it? Let's try it this way. If you were to select a source to support a position you hold, would you pick one that is avowedly partisan, editorial instead of reportorial, and based in a country other than the one in which it is purporting to present facts on the ground?

Well, yes, I suspect you might. In the real world, with serious people, that's quite a bad look.

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1 hour ago, mudgirl said:

????? Why Americans think this is something clever or funny to say has always bamboozled me. It's just stupid.

 

When I checked the news this morning Switzerland had not been invaded by the US maybe you know something ?

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1 hour ago, Sorn said:

If you were to select a source to support a position you hold, would you pick one that is avowedly partisan

Here's an article from a fairly conservative CDN paper (part of the National Post network) with truth and facts, something the far right continually chooses to ignore and distort.      The convoy protest is mostly made up of total whack jobs and the trucking associations and normal hard working truckers want NOTHING to do with them and are actively speaking out against them, in fact:

Ontario Trucking Association distances itself from trucker protests | The Kingston Whig Standard (thewhig.com)

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Here's more info showing the bozo convoys are highly likely also super spreaders of Covid:

COVID-19: Wastewater index blip coincides with convoy arrival; Moore notes 'general improvement' in indicators; Six more deaths in Ottawa | Edmonton Journal

If they could measure the IQ of wastewater, it sure would have gone down with the arrival of these losers.   

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4 hours ago, Sorn said:

I see. It makes the argument easy when you essentially append "right" and "wrong" to sides as you deem appropriate, doesn't it? Let's try it this way. If you were to select a source to support a position you hold, would you pick one that is avowedly partisan, editorial instead of reportorial, and based in a country other than the one in which it is purporting to present facts on the ground?

Well, yes, I suspect you might. In the real world, with serious people, that's quite a bad look.

Unfortunately in the US there seem to be 3 basic sources of news: "left wing" media such as HuffingtonPost, MSNBC, DailyKos...; "centrist" formerly known as corporate media or mainstream media such as NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN... now called "fake news"; and "right wing" media such as Fox News, Newsmax, Breitbart... Not much in between. 

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4 hours ago, virgo lady said:

Here's more info showing the bozo convoys are highly likely also super spreaders of Covid:

How could they not be? They're unvaxed, refuse to wear masks, love to shout in people's faces, and hang out cheek to jowl in crowds. 

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7 hours ago, Sorn said:

"Jacobin is a leading voice of the American left, offering socialist perspectives on politics, economics, and culture."

https://jacobinmag.com/about

I've noted people like to critique sources as right-wing here. It's odd no one quite cares the other way.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/jacobin/%3famp=1

"Jacobino

Jacobin - Left Bias - Liberal - Progressive - Democrat - Credible

Factual Reporting: High - Credible - Reliable
LEFT BIAS
These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation.  They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports, and omit information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Left Bias sources.

Overall, we rate Jacobin Magazine, Left Biased based on story selection and editorial positions that always favor the Democratic Socialist Left. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing of information and a clean fact check record.
Detailed Report
Bias Rating: LEFT
Factual Reporting: HIGH
Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: Magazine
Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY

History
Founded in 2011, Jacobin is a democratic socialist quarterly magazine based in New York offering American leftist perspectives on politics, economics, and culture. Bhaskar Sunkara is the founder and editor. You can find a complete list of staff on their about page.

Read our profile on the United States government and media.

Funded by / Ownership
Jacobin is owned by Bhaskar Sunkara and generates revenue through subscription fees and advertising.


Analysis / Bias
In review, Jacobin is a well-written quarterly magazine and website that publishes news from a strongly left-leaning perspective. There is moderate to the strong use of loaded emotional language such as this: Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez Pick a Fight With the Loan Sharks. This article, like most on Jacobin, is properly sourced to a variety of High factual sources. Although Jacobin harshly criticizes President Trump, they also frequently criticize centrist Democrats often described as corporate and establishment Democrats: Trump’s Sadism — and Democrats’ Accomodationism. Again, this article may contain loaded language, but it is properly sourced to only High factual sources. Editorially, all stories favor the Democratic Socialist left.

Jacobin has received praise from notable figures such as Noam Chomsky, who states they are “a bright light in dark times.” They have also faced criticism from free-market advocates, Reason Magazine.

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Overall, we rate Jacobin Magazine, Left Biased based on story selection and editorial positions that always favor the Democratic Socialist Left. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing of information and a clean fact check record. (D. Van Zandt 5/13/2016) Updated (5/11/2019)"

Source: https://www.jacobinmag.com/

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