Ferret Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 What's in the three authorized vaccines for the U.S.? A Simple Breakdown of the Ingredients in the COVID Vaccines (hackensackmeridianhealth.org) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBee Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 57 minutes ago, Ferret said: Lech Walesa has Covid but is not in the hospital or on oxygen. He is 78 and had heart surgery last year. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE VACCINATION MAKES! Former Polish president, Solidarity leader Walesa has COVID | Reuters Yes you are correct its called preexisting conditions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 You mean those pre-existing conditions that many people (especially men) don't even know they have? Sooooooooooooooooo stubborn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyjillin Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 29 minutes ago, Ferret said: You mean those pre-existing conditions that many people (especially men) don't even know they have? Sooooooooooooooooo stubborn! I know what major pre-existing conditions I have If I contract covid any one of them will kill me and my severe COPD will croak me in less than 24 hrs. I don't want no idjut anywhere near me that is a dumbazz about this dangerous WORLDWIDE KILLER. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDaze Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 On 1/25/2022 at 9:51 AM, virgo lady said: Anti-vax Olympic gold medalist Szilveszter Csollany dies of Covid, aged 51 (yahoo.com) Media Lies & the Sacred Rites of the Vaccine Cult – OffGuardian (off-guardian.org) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Call it a cult if you want to but the OTHER cult is far more dangerous because it is not based on FACT. The vaccines went through rigorous trials and the anti-vaccine devotees continue to call them unproven and experimental. They are not perfect but will keep you out of the hospital and from dying in the majority of cases. It is sad that Szilvezter got his vaccination too late to be of benefit to him. I also highly suspect that he would never have gotten vaccinated if his job wasn't on the line. Too little, too late. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, SunnyDaze said: Media Lies & the Sacred Rites of the Vaccine Cult – OffGuardian (off-guardian.org) https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/offguardian/%3famp=1 off-guardian.org is just more anti-vax rubbish. CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE "Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence. These sources may be untrustworthy for credible/verifiable information; therefore, fact-checking and further investigation is recommended on a per article basis when obtaining information from these sources." 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDaze Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, AlanMexicali said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/offguardian/%3famp=1 off-guardian.org is just more anti-vax rubbish. CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE "Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence. These sources may be untrustworthy for credible/verifiable information; therefore, fact-checking and further investigation is recommended on a per article basis when obtaining information from these sources." Please point to one this they said in the article that was false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 8 hours ago, SunnyDaze said: Media Lies & the Sacred Rites of the Vaccine Cult – OffGuardian (off-guardian.org) 5 hours ago, SunnyDaze said: Please point to one this they said in the article that was false. Examples of unconfirmed conclusions and misleading dialogue and there are more. The whole article is written in an easy to recongnize the anti-vax preaching to the anti-vax believers and easy for me to see that it is pure nonsense. "They never question why a previously healthy 51-year-old would ever need to be put on a ventilator, or consider how ventilator-associated pneumonia or ventilator-induced trauma may have contributed to his death. The article readily admits he died “of Covid” despite being vaccinated, but never even attempts to explain that, sparing a throwaway sentence suggesting “he contracted the virus soon after receiving his jab, and thus had not built sufficient levels of antibodies”, which is not supported by any medical opinion or sources. Having admitted he WAS vaccinated, and only a short time before he died, the article never considers even for a second the obvious logical conclusion: That the vaccine may have played some part in his death, or killed him outright. The implied thought buried in the text is that, even though he was vaccinated, his alleged doubts mean he was still an “anti-vaxxer” and therefore deserved to die. That he brought the Covid curse down upon his head through his expressing “anti-vaccination views”. As if he called down God’s wrath through speaking heresy. This is not the first time we have seen the narrative try and separate the meaning of “anti-vaxxer” from a person’s vaccination status." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDaze Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 12 hours ago, AlanMexicali said: Examples of unconfirmed conclusions and misleading dialogue and there are more. The whole article is written in an easy to recongnize the anti-vax preaching to the anti-vax believers and easy for me to see that it is pure nonsense. Examples of unconfirmed conclusions and misleading dialogue and there are more. The whole article is written in an easy to recongnize the anti-vax Vaxhole preaching to the anti-vax Vaxhole (Koolaid) believers and easy for me to see that it is pure nonsense. Fixed it for you! Now we are both doing nothing but name calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgo lady Posted January 30 Author Report Share Posted January 30 6 hours ago, SunnyDaze said: easy for me to see that it is pure nonsense. Let's make it easier: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDaze Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 6 hours ago, virgo lady said: Let's make it easier: That was actually from me quoting AlanMexicali. So you must now be also disagreeing with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgo lady Posted January 31 Author Report Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, SunnyDaze said: That was actually from me quoting AlanMexicali. So you must now be also disagreeing with him? Why don't you post a position, instead of just posting links? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDaze Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 14 minutes ago, virgo lady said: Why don't you post a position, instead of just posting links? Who would you get to explain it to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
econ man Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Someone who translates moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDaze Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Did you also fail to notice she was quoting the wrong person? Or are you name-calling AlanMexicali who actually made the original statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
econ man Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 11 hours ago, SunnyDaze said: Who would you get to explain it to you? Pretty clear a response to your question as to who would explain your position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDaze Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, econ man said: Pretty clear a response to your question as to who would explain your position. Once again, She was attributing the quote to the WRONG person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
econ man Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 I'll leave it to Virgo Lady to clarify whether she clicked on the wrong quote or not. I was responding to the OffGuardian gibberish you posted which I assume is your position. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dichosalocura Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 So immediately after assuming someones position is contrary to yours you instantly assume they are not worth talking with and shut your ears and eyes. What a way to civilly discuss topics of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
econ man Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Read what AlanMexicali posted about OffGuardian's bias and reputation for accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dichosalocura Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Well I don't often read the Guardian but just because they don't place the WHO and the CDC on a pedestal and treat everything they say as utter gospel does not mean everything that they print needs to be discarded just because they think outside the box. Each side of the coin should always be respected but yet frequently scrutinized. Thats what makes for a healthy discourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
econ man Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Not the Guardian. OffGuardian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dichosalocura Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 My bad, no wonder I haven't been reading it lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDaze Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, econ man said: I'll leave it to Virgo Lady to clarify whether she clicked on the wrong quote or not. I was responding to the OffGuardian gibberish you posted which I assume is your position. Why did it take you so many posts to come to that conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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