gringohombre Posted January 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 4 hours ago, cedros said: It was a feckless thread Feckless??? This is a word that is quite familiar but somewhat feckless, so I looked it up: "lacking initiative or strength of character; irresponsible". BUT, just what the heck does this have to do with my OP titled: Best sprinkler system for a large property? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 What I don't get is why are you paying those (mostly) crooks at Chapala government? I was under the impression you pay SIMAPA and you can choose metered or annual fee. I don't no where, probably California, they measure your grass area and are taxed accordingly, or forbid watering during shortages. Many are putting in permeable cement. This allows rain water to flow through and then there are open blocks to grow your drought resistant greenery. Others glue down premium astroturf, the worst solution, a concrete pad painted grass green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanson Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 So, Gringohombre, to better answer your question, it would help if we knew the dimensions of the large lawn area that you wish to water or irrigate. That way we could better recommend a solution to your problem. Also, do you happen to have a pressure meter to measure what the water pressure is at your site? If not have a pressure meter, you might want to borrow one. I would lend you mine, but I am up north for the month, and frankly don't remember where it is in my lakeside home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timjwilson Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Aside from your objection of pumping from the lake and going across the Federal Zone, Virgo Lady gave you the best solution; a pump direct to your sprinkler system. You can purchase a sprinkler or irrigation pump from Amazon or Home Depot. You could then pump from a cistern or tinaco or even choose to dig a shallow well (easily done close to the lake). My preference is for an adjustable gun type sprinkler. I used these on my farm. The advantage is moving only one sprinkler (in your case) or you could opt for a series of smaller sprinklers. You could even install below surface lines and pop up sprinklers. This is also aside from the maintenance of a lawn, which I personally find wasteful. Planting trees, alfalfa and various herbs and placing raised vegetable garden beds is a much more economically reasonable use of space and water. Besides that you could feed your friends and neighbors. Small gun here; 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Permeable grass pavers. Look nice. https://www.google.com/search?ei=8jLnYa-bKN_MkPIP2fuMEA&q=permeable+grass+pavers&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiv3JyJobz1AhVfJkQIHdk9AwIQsAR6BAgMEAE&biw=962&bih=415 Jocotepec measures lawn areas. That is why so many houses there lack front yard lawns. Hope these pavers come to Mexico. This system makes sure the rain gets to the water table, versus runoff to the Lake. And Tim, you forgot about rain barrels, collect from the gutter. Protect from mosqiters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringohombre Posted January 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 14 hours ago, oregontochapala said: Because it's f@cking IRRESPONSIBLE to use water for a lawn in an area where many people go without for their basic needs! Furthermore, it shows a lack of initiative and a bloody weak character to not be able to come to this conclusion on one's own and find a solution that doesn't involve putting a further strain on this precious resource. Now, back in the ignored user garbage bin with you where you belong. It's amazing that such an innocuous post can bring the Left Wing loonies and Socialist whackos out of the woodwork trying to tell others how to live thier lives!!! I know there is a regulation on this board regarding not using personal insults against others, however mods, please do not take any action here since I am sure that he/she knows not what they are saying. My property take a quarter of a whole block and includes a large living space, separate office and a couple of bodegas that are used as warehouses plus a football field size lawn fronting the lake. I am a lifelong businessman, first in California for years and now here for 14 years exporting Mexican home décor, arts and crafts and more to the US and worldwide. Both there and here I have always hired bilingual Latinos at good wages and conditions. Here the office has a great ambience of the grass, trees, shrubs, plants and flowers that of course benefit greatly from the watering regimen. I have hired many students from the Chapala Tech College and the last 2 have gone on to great positions at IBM in Guadalajara. Sometimes potential clients or vendors will visit and of course go away with a very positive opinion of us and how I operate my business. Oregontochapala, If you are reading this, and I am sure are, probably by candlelight (by the way, electricity, powered by coal and oil saved the whales), maybe you should consider the whole picture before spouting off here. I pay wages, taxes, create jobs and hopefully improve others' lives and also make them better and brighter with our wonderful products from here. ¡¡¡Viva Capitalism, Free Enterprise and FREE CHOICE!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringohombre Posted January 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 5 hours ago, timjwilson said: Aside from your objection of pumping from the lake and going across the Federal Zone, Virgo Lady gave you the best solution; a pump direct to your sprinkler system. You can purchase a sprinkler or irrigation pump from Amazon or Home Depot. You could then pump from a cistern or tinaco or even choose to dig a shallow well (easily done close to the lake). My preference is for an adjustable gun type sprinkler. I used these on my farm. The advantage is moving only one sprinkler (in your case) or you could opt for a series of smaller sprinklers. You could even install below surface lines and pop up sprinklers. This is also aside from the maintenance of a lawn, which I personally find wasteful. Planting trees, alfalfa and various herbs and placing raised vegetable garden beds is a much more economically reasonable use of space and water. Besides that you could feed your friends and neighbors. Small gun here; Thank you for this suggestion....this looks like what I am looking for. However I have gone to both the Amazon and Home depo sites here and entered: Rain Bird 65D impact sprinkler, and nada. Any suggestions on how to obtain it here? Gracias.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudgirl Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, gringohombre said: It's amazing that such an innocuous post can bring the Left Wing loonies and Socialist whackos out of the woodwork trying to tell others how to live thier lives!!! I know there is a regulation on this board regarding not using personal insults against others, however mods, please do not take any action here since I am sure that he/she knows not what they are saying. My property take a quarter of a whole block and includes a large living space, separate office and a couple of bodegas that are used as warehouses plus a football field size lawn fronting the lake. I am a lifelong businessman, first in California for years and now here for 14 years exporting Mexican home décor, arts and crafts and more to the US and worldwide. Both there and here I have always hired bilingual Latinos at good wages and conditions. Here the office has a great ambience of the grass, trees, shrubs, plants and flowers that of course benefit greatly from the watering regimen. I have hired many students from the Chapala Tech College and the last 2 have gone on to great positions at IBM in Guadalajara. Sometimes potential clients or vendors will visit and of course go away with a very positive opinion of us and how I operate my business. Oregontochapala, If you are reading this, and I am sure are, probably by candlelight (remember electricity powered by oil saved the whales), maybe you should consider the whole picture before spouting off here. I pay wages, taxes, create jobs and hopefully improve others lives and also make them better and brighter with our wonderful products from here. ¡¡¡Viva Capitalism, Free Enterprise and FREE CHOICE!!! None of this has anything to do with using up a precious resource to keep your lawn green in the dry season, and why you would think it somehow entitles you, or that they are in any way connected, says a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudgirl Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 6 hours ago, timjwilson said: even choose to dig a shallow well You can't just dig a well in Mexico. All water rights belong to the govt. and you need permission, need to file a lot of paperwork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timjwilson Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 36 minutes ago, gringohombre said: Thank you for this suggestion....this looks like what I am looking for. However I have gone to both the Amazon and Home depo sites here and entered: Rain Bird 65D impact sprinkler, and nada. Any suggestions on how to obtain it here? Gracias.... It was the pumps (sprinkler or irrigation) I suggested are available on Amazon. I'll look it up tomorrow. The gun sprinkler you should look for through the Rainbird dealer someone mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timjwilson Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, mudgirl said: You can't just dig a well in Mexico. All water rights belong to the govt. and you need permission, need to file a lot of paperwork. I believe you are thinking drilled wells. Different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudgirl Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 6 hours ago, CHILLIN said: don't no where, probably California, they measure your grass area and are taxed accordingly, or forbid watering during shortages. Many are putting in permeable cement. This allows rain water to flow through and then there are open blocks to grow your drought resistant greenery. Others glue down premium astroturf, the worst solution, a concrete pad painted grass green. First worlders just need to get over their lawn obsession. There's no need to spend a bunch of money on permeable concrete, or anything else. Learn to live with the brown lawn in the dry season and enjoy the lush green lawn that will all come back after a few days of rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timjwilson Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 Found them now so; https://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Sprinkling-Electric-Transfer-Irrigation/dp/B07XXZKXX9/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?crid=2UQG8REEQ8XHC&keywords=sprinkler+pump+1.5+hp&qid=1642562720&sprefix=sprinkler+pump%2Caps%2C104&sr=8-3-spons&psc=1&smid=A1J7P0UOBZ9ZZY&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzRjlLMExTVkpLQ1NVJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzE4ODYwNFdXSUJYRVU5UERaJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA0NTI1MDUxQU5FSFZHUFZVN1FIJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ== https://www.amazon.com/BURCAM-700516ZN-Heavy-Duty-Sprinkler/dp/B09M7P77NF/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=2UQG8REEQ8XHC&keywords=sprinkler+pump+1.5+hp&qid=1642562720&sprefix=sprinkler+pump%2Caps%2C104&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzRjlLMExTVkpLQ1NVJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzE4ODYwNFdXSUJYRVU5UERaJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3OTA1NDYzTjU4NDZIMVlQRDlaJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ== https://www.amazon.com/Simer-3420P-Spinkler-System-Pump/dp/B0054544J4/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2UQG8REEQ8XHC&keywords=sprinkler+pump+1.5+hp&qid=1642562720&sprefix=sprinkler+pump%2Caps%2C104&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzRjlLMExTVkpLQ1NVJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzE4ODYwNFdXSUJYRVU5UERaJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyNjc3MDYxMlZIR1Q4S1lIQzFXJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timjwilson Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 Sprinkler guns; https://www.amazon.com/Fdit-Adjustable-Sprinkler-Irrigation-Rotating/dp/B0866G7L72/ref=sr_1_6?crid=3N26543HHRZ0L&keywords=sprinkler+gun&qid=1642562937&sprefix=sprinkler+gun%2Caps%2C105&sr=8-6 https://www.amazon.com/LiFuJunDong-Adjustable-Irrigation-Sprinkler-Impact/dp/B07Z67KPMT/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3N26543HHRZ0L&keywords=sprinkler+gun&qid=1642562937&sprefix=sprinkler+gun%2Caps%2C105&sr=8-4 https://www.amazon.com/IrrigationKing-RK-57-Mini-Gun-Sprinkler-Aluminum/dp/B075P7BJN4/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3N26543HHRZ0L&keywords=sprinkler+gun&qid=1642562937&sprefix=sprinkler+gun%2Caps%2C105&sr=8-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringohombre Posted January 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 6 hours ago, mudgirl said: None of this has anything to do with using up a precious resource to keep your lawn green in the dry season, and why you would think it somehow entitles you, or that they are in any way connected, says a lot. This is a free country and the government is selling me thier water, and as I told Zipit here I will tell you the same thing...ZIPIT!!! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappysmarket Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 12 hours ago, mudgirl said: First worlders just need to get over their lawn obsession. There's no need to spend a bunch of money on permeable concrete, or anything else. Learn to live with the brown lawn in the dry season and enjoy the lush green lawn that will all come back after a few days of rain. ...and some people need to learn how to civilly express their opinion without denigrating those with whom they disagree. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 I liked this one. Credited to Jim Belushi, now a very successful cannabis farmer. "There is an old saying, that goes something like this. When you drink the water, remember the men or women who dug the well" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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