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Breaking news:

https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2021/12/us-army-creates-single-vaccine-effective-against-all-covid-sars-variants/360089/

Sounds like we'll know in a few weeks whether this is a really serious breakthrough or just another flash in the pan.  Apparently they've been working on it for two years since early 2020 and have done some trials.  Source looks credible.

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Within weeks, scientists at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research expect to announce that they have developed a vaccine that is effective against COVID-19 and all its variants, even Omicron, as well as previous SARS-origin viruses that have killed millions of people worldwide. 

The achievement is the result of almost two years of work on the virus. The Army lab received its first DNA sequencing of the COVID-19 virus in early 2020. Very early on, Walter Reed’s infectious diseases branch decided to focus on making a vaccine that would work against not just the existing strain but all of its potential variants as well.

Walter Reed’s Spike Ferritin Nanoparticle COVID-19 vaccine, or SpFN, completed animal trials earlier this year with positive results. Phase 1 of human trials, which tested the vaccine against Omicron and the other variants, wrapped up this month, again with positive results that are undergoing final review, Dr. Kayvon Modjarrad, director of Walter Reed’s infectious diseases branch, said in an exclusive interview with Defense One. The new vaccine will still need to undergo phase 2 and phase 3 trials.

Unlike existing vaccines, Walter Reed’s SpFN uses a soccer ball-shaped protein with 24 faces for its vaccine, which allows scientists to attach the spikes of multiple coronavirus strains on different faces of the protein.

“It's very exciting to get to this point for our entire team and I think for the entire Army as well,” Modjarrad said. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, oregontochapala said:

My personal opinion? That's a mighty optimistic time frame, especially in less well-developed countries like Mexico.

And you have supposedly developed countries like the U.S. where there is still a large portion of the population that refuses to get vaccinated.

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43 minutes ago, dcstroker said:

And you have supposedly developed countries like the U.S. where there is still a large portion of the population that refuses to get vaccinated.

Maybe they know something you don't.  Maybe they have noticed that these so called vaccines were offered as the solution only to find the vaccinated get and spread covid and the "vaccines" aren't very effective against the natural evolution of this virus.  Maybe after massive flip flopping some don't find the purveyors of these vaccines very credible.

Maybe they wonder why if these "vaccines" are so safe the casualty list from them has already well exceeded the thresholds for withdrawal followed in the past.  Maybe they wonder why their makers are exempt from being held accountable even for bad batches that hurt people.  

Maybe some should start following the money, notice the 6 major corporations that dominate the "news" NOB are mostly foreign held and their news departments have accepted many millions of dollars from Pfizer and Moderna for advertising.

Maybe some should pay less attention to a bureaucrat "doctor" who has never seen or treated patients and more attention to the thousands of doctors who have and who know covid is treatable.  

In short, maybe some should start to apply the same level of skepticism to this whole covid business they would apply for purchasing routine goods and services.  Buyer beware is even more important when it comes to one's health.

Given the actual inventor of mRNA has warned us about vaccines based on it I wonder if this one will have the same issues.  Nevertheless, you have to admire the brilliance of looking at corona viruses as a whole and addressing a possible vaccine from that perspective.

 

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I am very happy that there will be yet another vaccine available. I am equally sure that it will not be perfect nor come without side effects. Such is life.

You can denigrate the current vaccines all you like but they have probably saved millions of lives and/or prevented severe illness or hospitalization.  

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2 hours ago, Mainecoons said:

Maybe they know something you don't.  Maybe they have noticed that these so called vaccines were offered as the solution only to find the vaccinated get and spread covid and the "vaccines" aren't very effective against the natural evolution of this virus.  Maybe after massive flip flopping some don't find the purveyors of these vaccines very credible.

Maybe they wonder why if these "vaccines" are so safe the casualty list from them has already well exceeded the thresholds for withdrawal followed in the past.  Maybe they wonder why their makers are exempt from being held accountable even for bad batches that hurt people.  

Maybe some should start following the money, notice the 6 major corporations that dominate the "news" NOB are mostly foreign held and their news departments have accepted many millions of dollars from Pfizer and Moderna for advertising.

Maybe some should pay less attention to a bureaucrat "doctor" who has never seen or treated patients and more attention to the thousands of doctors who have and who know covid is treatable.  

In short, maybe some should start to apply the same level of skepticism to this whole covid business they would apply for purchasing routine goods and services.  Buyer beware is even more important when it comes to one's health.

Given the actual inventor of mRNA has warned us about vaccines based on it I wonder if this one will have the same issues.  Nevertheless, you have to admire the brilliance of looking at corona viruses as a whole and addressing a possible vaccine from that perspective.

 

Anybody that takes their government at face value should Well....Where are the autopsys???

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/its-beginning-to-look-a-lot-like-clotshot/ 

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....and maybe all of that is just someone looking to discredit any and everything with conspiracies.

Most hospitas report that 80-90% of their covid patients are unvaccinated!

Me, I'm keeping my bets on the scientist of the world but not the wanna be antagonists.

 

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16 hours ago, Mainecoons said:

Maybe they know something you don't.

You mean what they get every day, from their social media feeds funded by anti-western interests; same ones that stoked the Jan 6th riots?

Your whole post smacks of skepticism and paranoia.....maybe, maybe, maybe.

I think the military vaccine research is great to know about and hope it is 110% successful, thank you for sharing that part, how about lightening up on the rest?

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17 hours ago, Mainecoons said:

Maybe some should pay less attention to a bureaucrat "doctor" who has never seen or treated patients and more attention to the thousands of doctors who have and who know covid is treatable.  

And what it does to the body,  heart, lungs, and more:      

Heart damage from COVID-19 shown in new X-ray images | CTV News

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8 minutes ago, ibarra said:

Please provide links to your statement.

 

11 hours ago, MtnMama said:

In the US, one in every 100 persons over 65 has died from Covid and the majority of those were unvaccinated. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

According to the census there are over 40 million people in the USA over 65  Based on the statement made 1 of 100 that means 400,000 over 65 deaths from COVID. 

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54 minutes ago, Mostlylost said:

 

According to the census there are over 40 million people in the USA over 65  Based on the statement made 1 of 100 that means 400,000 over 65 deaths from COVID. 

And over 833,000 Americans have died of Covid. Sounds about right to me that half of those deaths were over 65.

 

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1 hour ago, southernguy said:

Just more scare tactics from mainstream media to keep people locked up., sad part is how compliant people are.

Just get your vaccine and wear your mask. 🙂

https://www.infowars.com/posts/first-omicron-death-an-anti-vaxxer-story-falls-apart/

Your link is less than encouraging, it is to a pretty whacked out site with lots of click-bait designed just to make $$ for the site owner.    And if you need more proof, read the comments on that page.       Pretty scary, most of them sound like the Jan 6th DC crowd.    

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Ironically, when we grew up there was mandatory polio vaccinations given in schools and you did not see any resistance on the part of the parents to get that vaccine.

And polio was pretty much eradicated in the western world as a result.   The world was a much more sane place then !!!   

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23 minutes ago, mexijims1 said:

The world was a much more sane place then !!! 

Exactly right.     And there were no instant & free global platforms for trolls and foreign agents to put wacky claims into the heads of the uneducated.

Mandatory vaccination is coming, basically IMHO, governments are just going to handle it in a way that the vast majority of the population demands / requires it, and we're pretty much just about there.       The anti-vaxxers can then run off and start their own countries and live happily in their dystopian Mad Maxx world.       Maybe No-vax Djokovich can be their new leader as he retires from tennis.

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2 hours ago, southernguy said:

Just more scare tactics from mainstream media to keep people locked up., sad part is how compliant people are.

Just get your vaccine and wear your mask. 🙂

https://www.infowars.com/posts/first-omicron-death-an-anti-vaxxer-story-falls-apart/

Infowars---seriously??  Run by that POS Alex Jones who claimed Sandy Hook school shooting was a hoax??   He lost 4 court cases and now a jury will consider amount of damages.  He'll be living under a bridge soon, thankfully. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2021/11/15/conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones-loses-last-defamation-lawsuit-from-sandy-hook-parents/?sh=1291c9331494

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2 hours ago, southernguy said:

Just more scare tactics from mainstream media to keep people locked up., sad part is how compliant people are.

Just get your vaccine and wear your mask. 🙂

https://www.infowars.com/posts/first-omicron-death-an-anti-vaxxer-story-falls-apart/

Infowars? The guy who's been successfully sued for defamation for lying about their dead children, shot at Sandy Hook, claiming it was a hoax?

You and your ilk have no conscience nor shame.

 

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