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Well, the climate change confab in Scotland is over (maybe a better name would be CON-GAB). The thousands of stuffed suits are now streaming back home in thier polluting planes massaging thier arms from all the vigorous back slapping. They all signed an agreement to end the use of carbon energy by.....wait for it....WHENEVER!!! Yes that is right, India, right at the top of the offender list refused to set an end date so all the rest sighed and said OK, we will go along with WHENEVER!!! The cute poster girl of global warming was heard screaming as she was running out "The world is ending tomorrow!" However J_ _ _ K_ _ _ _ (we are not allowed to use names here), the U.S. Climate Change Czar (the one with the biggest jet and largest house) promptly announced that the U.S. would be ending the use of coal and closing all coal energy plants by 2030. This in addition to corking all the oil and gas pipelines. So all of our relatives and friends El Norte had better get ready to maybe retreating to caves and huddling around the fire...but wait!!! Did I not hear that wood burning will also be banned??? In the meantime China, India, Russia and all the others will continue on thier merry way opening new coal burning energy plants at a record pace, piping oil and gas to each other (and Europe), expanding thier economies by producing windmills and solar panels for all the chumps and laughing all the way to the bank!!! The leader of China (who did not even send a token low level bureaucrat) was asked why they were a no-show. He snapped back "we do not have the time for that garbage...we got work to do!!!" 

I am still hoping that we will all wake up and laugh, realizing that we were in a George Orwell nightmare...but no, he was off by a few years but his revelations are all coming true!!! 

We should all be thankful for the wonderful, warm springtime year-round weather here. Lets be grateful for that, however others are not so lucky!!! Just my opinion. 

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On 11/1/2021 at 9:11 PM, dcstroker said:

They can't "cut it" as you say right now because there's too much opposition to trying to develop alternative energy to it's full potential. From those on the right who think it's some kind of socialist or communist plot to the previously mentioned billionaires who have a vested interest in seeing it fail.

the leftist plot know renewables don't work--they are using green as a weapon to take over the world--so far they are doing a pretty good job with the covid scare--

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On 10/28/2021 at 4:48 AM, dcstroker said:

Oh, and the oil and gas industries and the coal mining companies don't have a vested interest in making sure that we believe it's a fraud? The U.S. could be leading the world in renewable energy and providing jobs for those that have lost theirs in the rapidly declining coal mines but I guess it's better to just keep giving the billionaire owners tax breaks so they can help fund their favorite politician.

boy, did you drink the coolaid --HA- did you already forget Texas last year?--they bought into green--windmills  iced up--panels covered in snow--many died--here we come to another deadly winter--be patient--new energy will come--but not in our life time-!

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8 hours ago, bobby brown said:

boy, did you drink the coolaid --HA- did you already forget Texas last year?--they bought into green--windmills  iced up--panels covered in snow--many died--here we come to another deadly winter--be patient--new energy will come--but not in our life time-!

God, are you really that ignorant? Read here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Texas_power_crisis

Texas was unprepared for the cold and tried to save money by skimping on upkeep for their gas lines. And you'll notice some of the big gas companies made billions overcharging their customers, but I guess that's OK with you, after all screw the customers so long as it doesn't hurt the bottom line.

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On Monday, S&P Global Market Intelligence released data that showed prices for coal from Central Appalachia jumped more than $10 last week to $89.75 per ton, the highest level since 2009. 

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The reason for the surge has been the increasing amount of coal distributed to power stations across the US grid is expected to increase a mindboggling 20% to 521m short tons, according to the US Energy Information Administration. This means the dirtiest fossil fuel will surpass nuclear as the second-biggest source of US power, after natural gas. 

Coal's return is due to power plants transitioning from natural gas to coal because rising prices have made it uneconomical to produce electricity. Idled rigs and slashed drilling has dampened US crude production that is putting a bid under crude prices. 

 

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And remember, the US had become energy independent under you know who, with prices dropping until you know who took over less than a year ago. Now energy companies there are forced to buy from OPEC and other cartels who are simply naming thier price and laughing all the way to the bank!!! Meanwhile gasoline and home heating costs are going through the roof there. Why is this not clear as a bell to ALL???

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Electric car batteries as an environmental hazard:

In the last decade, China has rapidly expanded its “green” new energy vehicle (NEV) industry but recycling and disposing of hundreds of thousands of tons of used car batteries has become a pressing issue due to environmental concerns.

Growth in China’s NEV industry took off in 2014 when nearly 78,500 NEVs were produced and some 75,000 were sold. As of September of this year, China’s NEV registration reached 6.78 million, of which 5.52 million are fully electric vehicles.

The NEV industry predicts that its production and sales growth rate will remain above 40 percent in the next five years prompting the question of how to best manage the growing numbers of discarded lithium batteries from the NEVs.

Industry data shows that the service life of lithium batteries used in electric vehicles is generally 5 to 8 years, and the service life under warranty is 4 to 6 years. That means, tens of thousands of electric car batteries will soon need to be discarded or recycled, and millions more down the road.

According to the latest data from China Automotive Technology and Research Center, the cumulative decommissioning of China’s electric car batteries reached 200,000 tons in 2020 and the figure is estimated to climb to 780,000 tons by 2025.

Presently, most end-of-life batteries are traded in the unregulated black market, raising serious environmental concerns. If such batteries are not handled properly, they could cause soil, air, and water pollution.

“A 20-gram cell phone battery can pollute a water body equivalent to three standard swimming pools. If it is buried in the ground, it can pollute 1 square kilometer (247 acres) of land for about 50 years,” Wu Feng, a professor at Beijing Institute of Technology, once publicly stated.

Electric car batteries are many times larger than cell phone batteries.

According to Li Yongwang, a chemical engineering expert in China, pollution caused by NEV batteries is very likely far worse than the exhaust pollution from gasoline-run vehicles.

If they are buried or discarded at will, Li said, they are not only toxic for the environment but they are a direct danger to people’s lives given they can explode from heat.

Recycling of power batteries has become a pressing issue in China, and it’s considered a weak point that the Chinese authorities did not consider adequately when it heavily promoted the NEV industry.

There are currently two different methods for recycling electric car batteries. One is to recover valuable raw materials after disassembly. The other is secondary utilization in other fields.

At present, automobile power batteries are mainly divided into two types: ternary lithium batteries and lithium iron phosphate batteries.

Ternary lithium batteries have a relatively high content of rare metals such as nickel, cobalt, and manganese, and it’s more worthwhile to recover these.

The main ingredients in lithium iron phosphate batteries are lithium and iron, which are less worthy of recovering. This type of battery is often recycled through secondary utilization, as its service life is longer.

Regardless of the type of battery, the recycling market in China is huge. China Orient Securities has estimated that China’s power battery recycling market, including the two methods of recycling, is expected to reach $37 billion by 2025.

In August this year, Chinese authorities issued the “Administrative Measures for the Secondary Utilization of Power Batteries for New Energy Vehicles,” requiring new energy vehicle manufacturers to establish power battery recycling channels.

However, these car makers only bear the extra costs and reap no profits from adding battery recycling to their business. Chinese state media quoted an expert as saying that power batteries are not produced by NEV companies. Therefore, these companies have no incentive to recycle end-of-life power batteries.

In addition, according to Chinese state media, there are a series of problems associated with the current recycling policies: non-uniform recycling standards, non-standard processes, inconsistent resource utilization efficiency, non-uniform pricing, and an unclear distribution of profits.

Another problem is that, although there are many companies engaged in battery recycling in China, there are only 27 companies that have the qualifications for secondary utilization and recycling of batteries used in electric cars.

The huge market, coupled with slow official actions, thus created favorable conditions for a black market. Presently, countless services can be found on China’s largest second-hand commodity trading platform Xianyu when searching for used car batteries.

On this black market, power battery recycling is generally priced in tons. According to Chinese state media, the recycling price of power lithium batteries ranges from $1,250 to $1,563 U.S. dollars per ton. Most of these businesses purchase end-of-life batteries from all over the county.

In comparison, prices set by officially designated companies are often lower than on the black market, as the secret companies are able to cut costs by evading regulatory measures, according to China Energy News. As a result, the official companies cannot even obtain any batteries. An industry expert disclosed to Beijing News that about 80 percent of end-of-life power batteries flow into black markets for recycling.

When recycling is not an option for black market companies, the environment loses out. In 2018, authorities in Tieling City of Liaoning Province seized an illegal lead smelting plant and 330 tons of waste batteries. Workers at the plant dismantled storage batteries and discharged 50 tons of sulfuric acid directly into nearby land without any treatment, causing irreversible pollution.

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20 hours ago, dcstroker said:

God, are you really that ignorant? Read here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Texas_power_crisis

Texas was unprepared for the cold and tried to save money by skimping on upkeep for their gas lines. And you'll notice some of the big gas companies made billions overcharging their customers, but I guess that's OK with you, after all screw the customers so long as it doesn't hurt the bottom line.

Can't read; I'm ignant---HA--OH-I wouldn't trust anything from wikipedia- !

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Thanks for sharing this information.  At least, lakeside, many of the expats have electrical solar panels.  My last bill was typical, 50 pesos. Yes, I know, I have a few more panels than necessary. But that's just me.

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On 11/16/2021 at 7:35 PM, gringohombre said:

And remember, the US had become energy independent under you know who, with prices dropping until you know who took over less than a year ago. Now energy companies there are forced to buy from OPEC and other cartels who are simply naming thier price and laughing all the way to the bank!!! Meanwhile gasoline and home heating costs are going through the roof there. Why is this not clear as a bell to ALL???

Maybe because it's not true????

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2021/09/26/revisiting-the-blame-for-high-gas-prices/?sh=1d6622e0e31e

https://businessinsider.mx/why-are-gas-prices-so-high-right-now-3-reasons-2021-10/?r=US&IR=T

 

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3 hours ago, MtnMama said:

The very day the guy sat behind the desk at the beginning of this year he made moves that had a negative effect on the U.S. fuel situation and has continued to do so since. He has also failed to make moves that could have had mitigating effects but has failed to do so. Were there unavoidable situations that were in place that had an impact…of course? These articles point those out but fail to give the FACTS of the other side. Just my opinion!!!

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4 minutes ago, Jreboll said:

This kept you up all night, so you just had to say it.

I happen to subscribe to a sleep regimen that involves 2 cycles. I sleep for about 4 hours, wake up, go to the computer, catch up on some work and the news, go back to bed, read a little and naturally fall asleep for another 4 - 5 hours. Works for me!!! And what are you doing up at this time??? 

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I know, fake news <very big sigh>

Yesterday the President asked FTC Commissioner Lina Khan to investigate anti-consumer pricing at the gas pumps. The President’s letter is significant, in that he is attempting to get to the bottom of numbers that this time, do not add up.

"FTC has authority to consider whether illegal conduct is costing families at the pump...
...I believe you should do so immediately”
-President Biden

Link to admittedly progressive site: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/11/18/2064902/-The-Math-Didn-t-Add-Up-The-Reason-President-Biden-Asked-The-FTC-To-Investigate-Gas-Gouging?pm_source=story_sidebar&pm_medium=web&pm_campaign=recommended

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Daily Kos.  LOL  That's about as far to the left as you can get without falling off the edge of the earth.  :D 

Nothing will come of this because the prices have risen as a consequence of policies AND more consumption.

Remember, commodities markets respond to both policy and perception of future conditions and supplies.  

And they have.  I appreciate the nice bump in my energy stocks.

 

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6 hours ago, MtnMama said:

I know, fake news <very big sigh>

Yesterday the President asked FTC Commissioner Lina Khan to investigate anti-consumer pricing at the gas pumps. The President’s letter is significant, in that he is attempting to get to the bottom of numbers that this time, do not add up.

"FTC has authority to consider whether illegal conduct is costing families at the pump...
...I believe you should do so immediately”
-President Biden

Link to admittedly progressive site: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/11/18/2064902/-The-Math-Didn-t-Add-Up-The-Reason-President-Biden-Asked-The-FTC-To-Investigate-Gas-Gouging?pm_source=story_sidebar&pm_medium=web&pm_campaign=recommended

OK, so it is not the plugging of pipelines, cancelling oil and gas leases on federal lands, shutting down fracking (that produces very clean natural gas), shutting down coal mines and power plants, etc., etc. etc. Lets give you that. Then what is going on??? Its  anti-consumer pricing at the gas pumps and wait for it...its coming...coming...here is the real reason: COVID!!! Hee! hee! hee! This has become the catch all excuse for EVERYTHING!!! I see it in my business and anywhere someone needs an out...and don't you dare argue or else Dr. Fouche will be coming after you!!! 

The good news is that the American public (can you say voters) are not buying this at all. Look at you know who's popularity numbers...dropping like a rock and down where the fishes do not even swim!!!

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13 hours ago, gringohombre said:

OK, so it is not the plugging of pipelines, cancelling oil and gas leases on federal lands, shutting down fracking (that produces very clean natural gas), shutting down coal mines and power plants, etc., etc. etc. Lets give you that. Then what is going on??? Its  anti-consumer pricing at the gas pumps and wait for it...its coming...coming...here is the real reason: COVID!!! Hee! hee! hee! This has become the catch all excuse for EVERYTHING!!! I see it in my business and anywhere someone needs an out...and don't you dare argue or else Dr. Fouche will be coming after you!!! 

The good news is that the American public (can you say voters) are not buying this at all. Look at you know who's popularity numbers...dropping like a rock and down where the fishes do not even swim!!!

Americans are still in trouble do to voter fraud---Mexico has the system--If I try to vote; as a green card holder;--they would laugh at me as if I was on drugs- HA---As a green card holder I have all the rights of a Mexican; except to vote- that's great !!  I don't want to get involved in politics any way----HA

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