Orygun Duck Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 I just learned from the Washington Post that a nationwide referendum is scheduled here today. Wondering whether the usual rules and restrictions regarding alcohol sales etc, will apply and if so what are the specifics? (Guess I should get out more.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natasha Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 Just AMLO trying to divert attention from his own failures to those of his predecessors. Informal vote that will change nothing because no possible way for enough people to vote that results could have any legal effect. Just go about your own business as usual. Being a citizen I COULD vote, but not sure if there's even a polling station nearby for my "no" to the one question, and I've read wording is so ambiguous it makes the whole stunt meaningless anyway. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 There needs to be a participation of 40% of registered voters for it to count. Hopefully that won't happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 Frankly, I think it is a total waste of time , energy and money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 Unlike his fake airport consultation, this one has been scrutinized.... The Supreme Court re-worded the question. “Do you agree or not that the pertinent actions be carried out in accordance with the constitutional and legal framework, to undertake a process of clarification of the political decisions made in recent years by political actors , aimed at guaranteeing justice and the rights of potential victims? ”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natasha Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Mostlylost said: There needs to be a participation of 40% of registered voters for it to count. Hopefully that won't happen. That's another reason I'm not going. They can lie about the actual votes (si o no) but my absence will contribute to keeping totals below 40%. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natasha Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 39 minutes ago, Mostlylost said: “Do you agree or not that the pertinent actions be carried out in accordance with the constitutional and legal framework, to undertake a process of clarification of the political decisions made in recent years by political actors , aimed at guaranteeing justice and the rights of potential victims? ”. Gobbledygook is gobbledygook no matter in what country it's used to obfuscate and confuse.🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrod Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 We voted. Ajijic has three polling locations and one in SAT: Ya se puede acudir a la consulta popular en los tres módulos en #Ajijic -Escuelas primarias Marcos Castellanos, Saúl Rodiles Piña y kinder María Montessori- y uno en #SanAntonioTlayacapan -Escuela primaria Cuahutémoc-. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 Hopefully under 40% will vote and this can go away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnMama Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 Reminds me of the Colorado ballot for the Equal Rights amendment back in the '70s. It was written so "No" meant "Yes, I'm for it" and "Yes" meant "No, I'm against it". When we managed to get it passed - with over 60% NO votes, the opposition (who wrote the measure) went to court and got it thrown out because it was too hard to understand. We then passed a better written measure by an even higher percentage. Weren't the 70s fun? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 so far only 7 to 8 percent of the people voted..Way under the 40per cent needed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 Total failure and waste of money. AMLO can give lessons on how to waste our money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, Mostlylost said: Total failure and waste of money. AMLO can give lessons on how to waste our money. If he is such a "dud" why does the financial markets stay strong, today's ex rate is 19.85, So far the peso has not plunged as it did under previous administrations. I know my MX relatives think he is a bogey man and will take the country down the same road as Venezuela, God forbid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 Trying not to be political.... In the last three years When the Mexico City Airport construction was cancelled Moodys down graded Mexico's bonds, since they have been downgraded again and Pemex bonds are now junk status(costing billions in extra interest) The energy reforms are being dismantled in favor of government run again. (Pemex loses more money than any oil company in the world) The health system was reorganized and 2 years later still no one understands how it is run. No money for medicine.... Aviation system has been downgraded and the budget cut... pilots can't even get their required medical checks. Hugs and not bullets policy has emboldened the cartels which are in control of more areas daily. Billions have been spend to completely change the National Police to the Guardia National with all new vehicles, and uniforms. Military is in charge of Guardia National. Customs is being taken over by the Guardia National (military). Environmentally protected areas forgotten to build a new refinery which will end up costing double the original estimate. (meanwhile around the world major oil companies are selling off refineries) Military being used to construct the new airport and a large part of the Train Maya both with huge cost overruns and no accountability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natasha Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 47 minutes ago, lakeside7 said: I know my MX relatives think he is a bogey man and will take the country down the same road as Venezuela, God forbid Your Mx relatives are right on. More than anything he wants to manipulate himself into permanent office and then the hidden dictator will be right out in public. Yes.... God forbid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 So what happened with this referendum. Anyone show up and vote? Or was it like that Mayan train joke of a referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Mainecoons said: So what happened with this referendum. Anyone show up and vote? Or was it like that Mayan train joke of a referendum. The national news this morning reporting less than 8% of the registered voters participated and add to that people with expired INEs were allowed to vote as well. Participation is well below the 40% required (37.4 million) of the 93.6 million citizens in the register for the result of the consultation to be binding or mandatory. The INE president counselor, Lorenzo Córdova, explained that in the 57 thousand 70 receiving tables or boxes that were installed this Sunday, the estimated participation percentage of the was 7.07 and 7.74% . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stream Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 21 hours ago, Mostlylost said: Unlike his fake airport consultation, this one has been scrutinized.... The Supreme Court re-worded the question. “Do you agree or not that the pertinent actions be carried out in accordance with the constitutional and legal framework, to undertake a process of clarification of the political decisions made in recent years by political actors , aimed at guaranteeing justice and the rights of potential victims? ”. Looks like the same voting card writer lives over here in the states too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyjillin Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Mostlylost said: The national news this morning reporting less than 8% of the registered voters participated and add to that people with expired INEs were allowed to vote as well. Participation is well below the 40% required (37.4 million) of the 93.6 million citizens in the register for the result of the consultation to be binding or mandatory. The INE president counselor, Lorenzo Córdova, explained that in the 57 thousand 70 receiving tables or boxes that were installed this Sunday, the estimated participation percentage of the was 7.07 and 7.74% . The people have spoken! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 or just did not want to b bothered with the referendum. I did not vote.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfa Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 AMLO held two previous referenums (i?) with representation from only a small part of the country. Does anyone belive that he will not accept the vote regardless of the the percentage of citizens that actually cast a ballot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Alfa said: AMLO held two previous referenums (i?) with representation from only a small part of the country. Does anyone belive that he will not accept the vote regardless of the the percentage of citizens that actually cast a ballot? The Supreme Court has already ruled in the requirements of this referendum. Actually the federal government has had the ability to prosecute any formal government official without any referendum. AMLO just wanted it to be a "the people want it" situation. If he does he could be causing himself future problems. He hasn't had a job in 20 years and his oldest child is living in Texas in a mansion with private 24/7 guards... With money from where?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 Why not post this under Mexico General, ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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