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Rick you are so right , it would be so much simpler if the expats would be consulted on everything.. but then what would they be talking abou on tChapala.com.. 😃

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There is a single light by Auto Zone and side entrance to Walmart,  not installed completely yet too! It is straight across from the right hand turn lane coming off the libramiento.

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I have noticed that the ideas & well meaning comments about the cyclopista have disappeared now that the project is nearing completion or seemed to be complete when we left in June.I know off topic some what!

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1 hour ago, bmh said:

Rick you are so right , it would be so much simpler if the expats would be consulted on everything.. but then what would they be talking abou on tChapala.com.. 😃

SNORK!

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On 3/4/2021 at 10:58 AM, ibarra said:

There is a single light by Auto Zone and side entrance to Walmart,  not installed completely yet too! It is straight across from the right hand turn lane coming off the libramiento.

Maybe these lights not up a running also have left turn arrows? Maybe it will allow vehicles to exit and enter Walmart and cross traffic from either direction? Maybe blame Walmart for the SNAFU?

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On 3/4/2021 at 10:34 AM, bmh said:

Rick you are so right , it would be so much simpler if the expats would be consulted on everything.. but then what would they be talking abou on tChapala.com.. 😃

A first year civil engineering student would have done a better job than this.  :D 

You can bet we have far more engineering expertise among the old farts around here than whoever came up with this over complicated mess.  Among other things, now bike path users have to run a double gauntlet to get across the libremiento.  That whole southbound libremiento to west bound carretera separate lane was unnecessary.  You have two lanes coming down the hill One goes straight or right, the other left.  No need for anything new there but some directional arrows and signs. (with correct spelling)

East bound from Walmart uses the new east exit before the colossally ugly new development.  Northbound and west bound protected left at the light.  East bound from Ajijic goes into Walmart via existing driveway next to Autozone.  Westbound from San Antonio protected left at the light.  Four phases, one for each leg of the four way intersection.  That gives automatic protected turns for each of the four legs of the intersection.

Pedestrians and bike path users get green when the light is green for the west bound carretera traffic as the right turn to northbound from west bound is the lightest turning traffic there.

One set of easily understood traffic lights and logical turn setups.  

One traffic light, the existing one, updated to include the northbound main exit out of Walmart.  Hell people, you can go to almost any Walmart in the U.S. and this is how they do it.  Quite successfully.  This ain't rocket science it seems anywhere but here.

Watch how this thing interacts with those badly set up lights in San Antonio.  We'll all have plenty of time to do so while sitting in mile long backups.  :D 

 

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22 minutes ago, Mainecoons said:

No need for anything new there but some directional arrows and signs. (with correct spelling)

Well, the directional arrows don't seem to work. The arrows are clearly marked on the east bound exit and yet I watched one :() today ENTER against the arrows there. How about a big honkin' NO ENTRADA across that exit. Sheesh.

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56 minutes ago, Ferret said:

Well, the directional arrows don't seem to work. The arrows are clearly marked on the east bound exit and yet I watched one :() today ENTER against the arrows there. How about a big honkin' NO ENTRADA across that exit. Sheesh.

That "exit" is calle Libertad and has always been there, it is not part of Walmart, they are using it that way however..

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2 hours ago, CHILLIN said:

So is this the new Zona Rosa for Chapala?

I take it this means "Red light District". Will check it out tonight and report back tomorrow providing that service is provided for the over 60.😊

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On 3/6/2021 at 4:19 PM, HoneyBee said:

I take it this means "Red light District". Will check it out tonight and report back tomorrow providing that service is provided for the over 60.😊

No. Zona Rosa is an exclusive shopping area in Mexico city.

Zona Rosa, Mexico City (Zona Rosa)Description

Zona Rosa is a neighborhood in Mexico City which is known for its shopping, nightlife, gay community and its recently established Korean community. The neighborhood is officially part of the Colonia Juarez colonia or official neighborhood, located just west of the historic center of Mexico City. Wikipedia
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1 hour ago, Alfa said:

No it is not.

Well we can choose to disagree! As a designer of many many wayfinding master plans for major transportation hubs I have always felt that an "Engineer" & "Traffic" are totally dissimilar in Goals Techniques & Standards, but thats me & yes I have been known to make mistakes from time to time, like right now. Cheers

a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction 

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I just went through that intersection again today.

It felt like a demolition derby - cars coming at me from all directions trying to turn East. West, North and South (yes South)

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