bmh Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Rick you are so right , it would be so much simpler if the expats would be consulted on everything.. but then what would they be talking abou on tChapala.com.. 😃 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragtopman Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Didn't Sammy Hagar do a song about traveling from west Ajijic to East SAT, "What took 2 hours now takes all day"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibarra Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 There is a single light by Auto Zone and side entrance to Walmart, not installed completely yet too! It is straight across from the right hand turn lane coming off the libramiento. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkshawn Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 I have noticed that the ideas & well meaning comments about the cyclopista have disappeared now that the project is nearing completion or seemed to be complete when we left in June.I know off topic some what! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyPanda Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Because like everything else, there is nothing we can do about it. Not because I personally have accepted it as beneficial for the masses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyjillin Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, bmh said: Rick you are so right , it would be so much simpler if the expats would be consulted on everything.. but then what would they be talking abou on tChapala.com.. 😃 SNORK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 So is this the new Zona Rosa for Chapala? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 On 3/4/2021 at 10:58 AM, ibarra said: There is a single light by Auto Zone and side entrance to Walmart, not installed completely yet too! It is straight across from the right hand turn lane coming off the libramiento. Maybe these lights not up a running also have left turn arrows? Maybe it will allow vehicles to exit and enter Walmart and cross traffic from either direction? Maybe blame Walmart for the SNAFU? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 On 3/4/2021 at 10:34 AM, bmh said: Rick you are so right , it would be so much simpler if the expats would be consulted on everything.. but then what would they be talking abou on tChapala.com.. 😃 A first year civil engineering student would have done a better job than this. You can bet we have far more engineering expertise among the old farts around here than whoever came up with this over complicated mess. Among other things, now bike path users have to run a double gauntlet to get across the libremiento. That whole southbound libremiento to west bound carretera separate lane was unnecessary. You have two lanes coming down the hill One goes straight or right, the other left. No need for anything new there but some directional arrows and signs. (with correct spelling) East bound from Walmart uses the new east exit before the colossally ugly new development. Northbound and west bound protected left at the light. East bound from Ajijic goes into Walmart via existing driveway next to Autozone. Westbound from San Antonio protected left at the light. Four phases, one for each leg of the four way intersection. That gives automatic protected turns for each of the four legs of the intersection. Pedestrians and bike path users get green when the light is green for the west bound carretera traffic as the right turn to northbound from west bound is the lightest turning traffic there. One set of easily understood traffic lights and logical turn setups. One traffic light, the existing one, updated to include the northbound main exit out of Walmart. Hell people, you can go to almost any Walmart in the U.S. and this is how they do it. Quite successfully. This ain't rocket science it seems anywhere but here. Watch how this thing interacts with those badly set up lights in San Antonio. We'll all have plenty of time to do so while sitting in mile long backups. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 22 minutes ago, Mainecoons said: No need for anything new there but some directional arrows and signs. (with correct spelling) Well, the directional arrows don't seem to work. The arrows are clearly marked on the east bound exit and yet I watched one :() today ENTER against the arrows there. How about a big honkin' NO ENTRADA across that exit. Sheesh. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvsdawgs Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 56 minutes ago, Ferret said: Well, the directional arrows don't seem to work. The arrows are clearly marked on the east bound exit and yet I watched one :() today ENTER against the arrows there. How about a big honkin' NO ENTRADA across that exit. Sheesh. That "exit" is calle Libertad and has always been there, it is not part of Walmart, they are using it that way however.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBee Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 2 hours ago, CHILLIN said: So is this the new Zona Rosa for Chapala? I take it this means "Red light District". Will check it out tonight and report back tomorrow providing that service is provided for the over 60.😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted March 7, 2021 Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 Maybe they will take away some of the spare lights? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 On 3/6/2021 at 4:19 PM, HoneyBee said: I take it this means "Red light District". Will check it out tonight and report back tomorrow providing that service is provided for the over 60.😊 No. Zona Rosa is an exclusive shopping area in Mexico city. Zona Rosa, Mexico City (Zona Rosa)Description Zona Rosa is a neighborhood in Mexico City which is known for its shopping, nightlife, gay community and its recently established Korean community. The neighborhood is officially part of the Colonia Juarez colonia or official neighborhood, located just west of the historic center of Mexico City. Wikipedia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfa Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 On 3/4/2021 at 8:22 AM, mkshawn said: Is that not an oxymoron??? No it is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkshawn Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alfa said: No it is not. Well we can choose to disagree! As a designer of many many wayfinding master plans for major transportation hubs I have always felt that an "Engineer" & "Traffic" are totally dissimilar in Goals Techniques & Standards, but thats me & yes I have been known to make mistakes from time to time, like right now. Cheers a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction Edited March 9, 2021 by mkshawn clarity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunFan Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 I just went through that intersection again today. It felt like a demolition derby - cars coming at me from all directions trying to turn East. West, North and South (yes South) SunFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Berca Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 The secret is keeping your eyes closed while trying to get through the intersection from hell. Works for me. So far. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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