AlongTheWay Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 (Medical alert: If you're a true believer and have any pre-existing co-morbidities, your doctor would certainly suggest you don't read this.) Dire climate predictions from Scientists and Politicians which haven't come true... (it's a long list) But, as is often said of recent, "It's science! It must be true." https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-of-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 The Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) is a non-profit libertarian think tank founded by the political writer Fred L. Smith Jr. on March 9, 1984, in Washington, D.C., to advance principles of limited government, free enterprise, and individual liberty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisbee Gal Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Competitive_Enterprise_Institute The Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) is a advocacy group based in Washington DC with long ties to tobacco disinformation campaigns and more recently to climate change denial. It calls itself "a non-profit, non-partisan research and advocacy institute dedicated to the principles of free enterprise and limited government. We believe that individuals are best helped not by government intervention, but by making their own choices in a free marketplace." The Competitive Enterprise Institute is an "associate" member of the State Policy Network, a web of right-wing "think tanks" in every state across the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlongTheWay Posted February 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 Ya. Probably they made up all those articles and quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Shrall Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 Too bad this has nothing to do with Ajijic and will most likely get cancelled during the upcoming scrum. That quote comes from sourcewatch.org described as follows: SourceWatch is owned by the Center for Media and Democracy (CMD), which is a progressive nonprofit watchdog and advocacy organization based in Madison, Wisconsin. CMD has been documented to be funded by the Open Societies Foundation (Soros) and the Tides Foundation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisbee Gal Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 Agree the OP has no relevance to either Lakeside or MEX in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcscats Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 To be proper unless you know how many times scientists were right you really don't know if the wrong things are a meaningful number as presented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 2 hours ago, AngusMactavish said: The Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) is a non-profit libertarian think tank founded by the political writer Fred L. Smith Jr. on March 9, 1984, in Washington, D.C., to advance principles of limited government, free enterprise, and individual liberty. Is the list correct or not? Ad hom is not an answer. It seemed cooler around here this winter or maybe I'm just getting older. Finally, 80 today, loved it. La Niña. a colder water condition in the pacific, made for a pretty dry "winter" here and to the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mainecoons said: Is the list correct or not? Ad hom is not an answer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competitive_Enterprise_Institute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 minute ago, AngusMactavish said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competitive_Enterprise_Institute Sorry, still not an answer as to whether the claims these predictions were made are correct. And Wiki is not a real source. Read up on how its postings are generated. Looking forward to your rebuttal the list of claims and claimants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 I quoted my quote's source. Read at your discretion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 Just now, AngusMactavish said: I quoted my quote's source. Read at your discretion. It is a description of the source. I am looking for a rebuttal of what the source claimed about failed climate predictions and predictors. Your turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 Just now, Mainecoons said: It is a description of the source. I am looking for a rebuttal of what the source claimed about failed climate predictions and predictors. Your turn. Tequila? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, AngusMactavish said: Tequila? Absolutely! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbird Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 We all believe something. I believe we're killing our miracle we call earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattoleriver Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 That's five minutes I'll never get back. I looked at the list and found 50 year old newspaper articles about individuals making predictions. Nothing that I saw has become unquestioned dogma in the scientific community. Maybe now we should have a list of all the times that the Horse and Sparrow Theory has panned out. Probably best to not even mention predictions made by individuals in the name of religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnMama Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 You can believe anyone you like. I choose to believe Ajijic resident, Dr Don Aitken. He is an internationally recognized expert on alternative energy and climate change and has spoken regularly at Open Circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringohombre Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 19 hours ago, AngusMactavish said: The Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) is a non-profit libertarian think tank founded by the political writer Fred L. Smith Jr. on March 9, 1984, in Washington, D.C., to advance principles of limited government, free enterprise, and individual liberty. I am confused, are you saying there is something wrong with that philosophy or are you agreeing??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 10 hours ago, gringohombre said: I am confused, are you saying there is something wrong with that philosophy or are you agreeing??? Quote: "... to advance principles of limited government, free enterprise, and individual liberty." This is not a philosophy. It is an ideology. 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringohombre Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 39 minutes ago, AlanMexicali said: Quote: "... to advance principles of limited government, free enterprise, and individual liberty." This is not a philosphy. It is an ideology. 😊 Now I am really confused!!! I see that you are quoting another poster (Angus Mactavish)...but my question still is (to both or you)...do you agree, or not with this IDEOLOGY? I do because it is the foundation of the country that I am a citizen of...The USA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 37 minutes ago, gringohombre said: OK...but my question still is...do you agree, or not with this IDEOLOGY? No. Untethered capitalism can be soulless and needs government oversight to help keep them from raping the citizens of every penny they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringohombre Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, AlanMexicali said: No. Untethered capitalism is souless and needs government oversight to help keep them from raping the citizens of every penny they have. So you do not believe in "principles of limited government, free enterprise, and individual liberty." That's OK also because I also believe in FREE SPEACH!!! And that's all I am going to say on this subject because of the policies of this board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
econ man Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringohombre Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Although born in the US, I grew up in Bermuda, a tiny speck if an island (21 sq. miles) in the middle of the Atlantic with the nearest land mass (N. Carolina) about 600 miles away. The land is mostly flat, a few feet above sea level with the highest point at a little over 200 ft. where the towering Gibbs Hill Lighthouse stands. I still have family there and recently asked my brother how they were dealing with the rising sea level. He burst out in uncontrolled laughter and said "yes, we will all soon be huddled on the top of Gibbs Hill under the lighthouse!". As AlongTheWay adroitly puts it above, we should all take a fresh look at these claims since there are many competing interests involved including social and political status, but most importantly our old friend MONEY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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