Floradude 257 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 There is an article in the Puerto Vallarta News that says the Covid vaccine will likely not be available to the Government of Jalisco until the end of the year. I was not able to copy the article or I would have posted it here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mostlylost 1,497 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Just now, Floradude said: There is an article in the Puerto Vallarta News that says the Covid vaccine will likely not be available to the Government of Jalisco until the end of the year. I was not able to copy the article or I would have posted it here. The government of Jalisco announced that any independent purchases by the state probably would not take place before the end of the year because of the limited supply that has not already been committed . NOTE; This has no effect on the national distribution program of the Federal government Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floradude 257 Posted January 30 Author Report Share Posted January 30 I am expecting the national distribution will be of the Russian and/or Chinese vaccine, neither of which has been fully tested or approved. I was hoping the Government of Jalisco would purchase the vaccines on the commonly approved lists. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mainecoons 5,370 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 Brazil found the Chinese vaccine to be only about 50 percent effective. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mostlylost 1,497 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Mainecoons said: Brazil found the Chinese vaccine to be only about 50 percent effective. The Brazil study applies to one of three Chinese vaccines. Not the one Mexico has committed to buy if and when approved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lcscats 553 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 20 hours ago, Mostlylost said: The Brazil study applies to one of three Chinese vaccines. Not the one Mexico has committed to buy if and when approved. Agreed! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mainecoons 5,370 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 And just how much have the other two been tested and would the Chinese tell you the truth about them? No thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mostlylost 1,497 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Actually phase 3 trials are carried out in many different countries for each vaccine candidate. The studies are done by independent trial researchers and reported to the companies as well as reported to the WHO, CDC, and other interested organizations. So while China could lie about trials carried out in China, it would be extremely difficult to censor trial information from other countries. Thus you are seeing results reported in Brazil on one Chinese vaccine with poor results. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RickS 1,994 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 "We" have become accustomed, after Pfizer and Moderna's vaccines tested out around 95% effective, to saying that other vaccines that test out 'much' lower are 'bad'. This in not exactly correct. Not 95% but surely not bad. In the past I don't think that there has 'ever' been a vaccine that reached 95%. Common flu vaccines don't approach that. Also I have heard, but have no actual data, that while the 'other' vaccines are less effective, if one gets that shot and does get Covid it will be a mild case. In their trials if one, getting the real vaccine and not a placebo, did get the virus none had to go to a hospital and surely no one died. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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