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53 minutes ago, lakeside7 said:

Maybe Denque??

Loss of taste and smell aren't dengue symptoms. And if you have dengue your whole body aches like crazy. I don't know how anyone could mistake dengue for COVID. Plus it isn't mosquito season.

 

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1 hour ago, mudgirl said:

Loss of taste and smell aren't dengue symptoms. And if you have dengue your whole body aches like crazy. I don't know how anyone could mistake dengue for COVID. Plus it isn't mosquito season.

 

Sorry I will go stand in the corner :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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In Dec 2020, Dr. Kory of the Frontline Critical Care Alliance testified to the US Senate about the benefits of Ivermectin in various stages of the disease.  He is part of a consortium of international critical care doctors headed by Dr. Paul Marik of the Eastern Virginia Medical School. http://www.covid19criticalcare.com  He is famous for the discovery of effective treatments for conditions such as sepsis, and only does frontline critical care medicine.  

In early March, I read online the three Chinese and one French trials of both chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine w/zinc and azithromycin, and further study of Dr. Marik's research, all done by noted infectious disease specialists.  

They did a number of studies with HCQ,  and later with Ivermectin, trying to find the right OUTPATIENT early intervention protocol, and they have continued to refine the protocols. While the Marik/Zelenko Protocol of HCQ/zinc/azithromycin is good, Ivermectin/zinc/doxyxyxlne is better because it acts not only as an anti-viral for early onset COVID viral load, but its also inflammatory,well suited to treat the cytokine storm that attacks the body in later stages of the disease, and comes with blood clots. 

These treatments are simple, effective, cheap, safe, well-tolerated in most people, but they certainly don't contribute to the pharma bottom line, and so have been ridiculed, forbidden for prescription by pharmacy boards and malpractice insurance risk mitigation attorneys, etc for months, which has caused 100,000s of unnecessary deaths in the US...All for a buck.

Mexico is even more tragic....ISSSTE did a clinical trial in Chiapas in July, giving an appropriate dose of Ivermectinto every person, and within one month, there was NO VIRUS IN ALL OF CHIAPAS! And it has kept its green "clean" status since that time. This is the ONLY STATE IN MEXICO TO BE GREEN...And yet, the health authorities in MX will NOT distribute Ivermectin throughout the country, saving lives and allowing people to go BACK TO WORK...and without masks.

Tragic. Negligent. Callous. Complicit. 

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12 minutes ago, Honorandfaith said:

In Dec 2020, Dr. Kory of the Frontline Critical Care Alliance testified to the US Senate about the benefits of Ivermectin in various stages of the disease.  He is part of a consortium of international critical care doctors headed by Dr. Paul Marik of the Eastern Virginia Medical School. Www.flccc.net. He is famous for the discovery of effective treatments for conditions such as sepsis, and only does frontline critical care medicine.  

In early March, I read online the three Chinese and one French trials of both chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine w/zinc and azithromycin, and further study of Dr. Marik's research, all done by noted infectious disease specialists.  

They did a number of studies with HCQ,  and later with Ivermectin, trying to find the right OUTPATIENT early intervention protocol, and they have continued to refine the protocols. While the Marik/Zelenko Protocol of HCQ/zinc/azithromycin is good, Ivermectin/zinc/doxyxyxlne is better because it acts not only as an anti-viral for early onset COVID viral load, but its also inflammatory,well suited to treat the cytokine storm that attacks the body in later stages of the disease, and comes with blood clots. 

These treatments are simple, effective, cheap, safe, well-tolerated in most people, but they certainly don't contribute to the pharma bottom line, and so have been ridiculed, forbidden for prescription by pharmacy boards and malpractice insurance risk mitigation attorneys, etc for months, which has caused 100,000s of unnecessary deaths in the US...All for a buck.

Mexico is even more tragic....ISSSTE did a clinical trial in Chiapas in July, giving an appropriate dose of Ivermectinto every person, and within one month, there was NO VIRUS IN ALL OF CHIAPAS! And it has kept its green "clean" status since that time. This is the ONLY STATE IN MEXICO TO BE GREEN...And yet, the health authorities in MX will NOT distribute Ivermectin throughout the country, saving lives and allowing people to go BACK TO WORK...and without masks.

Tragic. Negligent. Callous. Complicit. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pagina12.com.ar/321951-ivermectina-el-laboratorio-merck-desaconsejo-su-uso-para-el-

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06 de febrero de 2021

"The pharmaceutical company Merck, which markets ivermectin, clarified its position regarding the use of this drug to treat the new coronavirus. While some countries, such as the United States and Brazil, approve its application, the laboratory clarified that to date "there is no scientific basis" to affirm that it has "a possible therapeutic effect against covid-19".

In a statement, the company made it clear that in addition to the absence of "preclinical" evidence of the effects of this drug in the treatment of covid-19, there is also "no significant evidence of clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with covid-19 disease." "

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Alan, did you go to the www.covid19criticalcare.com site, and look at the protocols and testing that has been done there?  Do you know about the fast and loose way they play with EuAs there, to shut out cheap, old, safe,effective drugs. Not enough money in it. 

Merck just withdrew a "vaccine" today, and was hoping that their more costly product makes them more money. Od course they be ambivalent about the HCQ;  there no  MONEY in it..l

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2 hours ago, Honorandfaith said:

Mexico is even more tragic....ISSSTE did a clinical trial in Chiapas in July, giving an appropriate dose of Ivermectinto every person, and within one month, there was NO VIRUS IN ALL OF CHIAPAS! And it has kept its green "clean" status since that time. This is the ONLY STATE IN MEXICO TO BE GREEN...And yet, the health authorities in MX will NOT distribute Ivermectin throughout the country, saving lives and allowing people to go BACK TO WORK...and without masks.

Chiapas lost its Green status over 3 weeks ago. 

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/coronavirus/13-states-are-red-on-coronavirus-risk-map/

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On 2/5/2021 at 7:49 PM, mudgirl said:

Loss of taste and smell aren't dengue symptoms. And if you have dengue your whole body aches like crazy. I don't know how anyone could mistake dengue for COVID. Plus it isn't mosquito season.

 

Yeah, tell that to the mosquitos in my house.  Maybe they'll realise that they're early and leave. They are very small, black and fast....

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The percentage of patients in state public hospitals decreased in the last two weeks

The governor reported yesterday (February 7)  that the general occupancy of beds went from 58.5% to 50.9 percent. There are currently 1,545 hospitalized for coronavirus in the public sector and last week there were 1,774.

The percentage in the Intensive Care Units (ICU), where the most seriously ill patients are cared for, fell from 73.7 to 67.7 percent.

The state report on hospital occupancy does not include 125 people treated in private hospitals.

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Statistics can be misleading if taken in a snapshot. While it is encouraging that there was a small decline, it's the long term trend that we should pay attention to. IF a month from now it is still dropping every week, THAT will be good news.  

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3 minutes ago, RickS said:

Statistics can be misleading if taken in a snapshot. While it is encouraging that there was a small decline, it's the long term trend that we should pay attention to. IF a month from now it is still dropping every week, THAT will be good news.  

True. Last week was actually the second week of lower hospital occupancy in Jalisco.  Hopefully we won't see a resurgence from Valentines day  at the end of February.

What is important is to note that the title of this thread is entirely wrong in regards to Jalisco and is a false narrative that helps no one. 

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On 2/5/2021 at 8:45 AM, Joco said:

There is a test for antibodies that shows if you had Covid. A Mexican told me he had the test and it showed positive for the antibodies. He thought he had a mild case and temporarily lost his sense of smell and taste plus he was very tired for a few weeks. 

I hand it almost a year ago. Im sure I would test negative. Being on a home oxygenater, im living in a bubble. But thanks.  

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11 hours ago, Honorandfaith said:

In Dec 2020, Dr. Kory of the Frontline Critical Care Alliance testified to the US Senate about the benefits of Ivermectin in various stages of the disease.  He is part of a consortium of international critical care doctors headed by Dr. Paul Marik of the Eastern Virginia Medical School. http://www.covid19criticalcare.com  He is famous for the discovery of effective treatments for conditions such as sepsis, and only does frontline critical care medicine.  

In early March, I read online the three Chinese and one French trials of both chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine w/zinc and azithromycin, and further study of Dr. Marik's research, all done by noted infectious disease specialists.  

They did a number of studies with HCQ,  and later with Ivermectin, trying to find the right OUTPATIENT early intervention protocol, and they have continued to refine the protocols. While the Marik/Zelenko Protocol of HCQ/zinc/azithromycin is good, Ivermectin/zinc/doxyxyxlne is better because it acts not only as an anti-viral for early onset COVID viral load, but its also inflammatory,well suited to treat the cytokine storm that attacks the body in later stages of the disease, and comes with blood clots. 

These treatments are simple, effective, cheap, safe, well-tolerated in most people, but they certainly don't contribute to the pharma bottom line, and so have been ridiculed, forbidden for prescription by pharmacy boards and malpractice insurance risk mitigation attorneys, etc for months, which has caused 100,000s of unnecessary deaths in the US...All for a buck.

Mexico is even more tragic....ISSSTE did a clinical trial in Chiapas in July, giving an appropriate dose of Ivermectinto every person, and within one month, there was NO VIRUS IN ALL OF CHIAPAS! And it has kept its green "clean" status since that time. This is the ONLY STATE IN MEXICO TO BE GREEN...And yet, the health authorities in MX will NOT distribute Ivermectin throughout the country, saving lives and allowing people to go BACK TO WORK...and without masks.

Tragic. Negligent. Callous. Complicit. 

Currently almost 9,000 people have Covid in Chiapas.   https://coronalevel.com/Mexico/Chiapas/https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/09/180925075108.htm

It has been proven that the cures you claim do not work, but they do get rid of demon sperm which is very dangerous.  Ivermectin is used for head lice and other parasites. Those are not caused by Covid. If any doctor tries to treat you with these drugs, run.

 

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I live in CHiapas most of the year and anyone who claim there is no covid there is full of S..Many of my indigenous friends got covid in May and june.  Two doctors from the IMSS hospital on 5 de Mayo in Tuxtla just died and 3 others are fighting for their life. I hear about covid problem every day.. Who ever is claiming no covid in Chiapas is lying. The state is not green but yelow and Yellow only because none of the indigenous are reporting anything,

The grass is always greener on the other side but in July when I asked my neighbor where to get oxgen, he told me there isn t any,..

Yesterday a friend just told me his friend was in the hopital in a very serious condition. My neighbor quit driving taxi in San Critobal because 4 of his friends died of covid in a month and on and on..my other neighbor accross the street died of covid a month ago.. No COVID in Chiapas?? Get serious.

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38 minutes ago, Joco said:

Currently almost 9,000 people have Covid in Chiapas.   https://coronalevel.com/Mexico/Chiapas/https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/09/180925075108.htm

It has been proven that the cures you claim do not work, but they do get rid of demon sperm which is very dangerous.  Ivermectin is used for head lice and other parasites. Those are not caused by Covid. If any doctor tries to treat you with these drugs, run.

 

All my relatives went crazy and had to have Ivermectin (Ivexterm). I must have received whatsapp messages from 6 or 7 people even my daughter in the USA. 

My sister wanted me to buy it in Chapala because in GDL all the farmacias were out of it.  When I asked "Can you point me to a scientific study that shows it works?"  she said that people in Africa who take it aren't getting covid  so it must work and it won't hurt you.

I sent her links from South Africa, the US FDA, the WHO,  and Mexico all saying there is no scientific proof that it helps in any way.   She asked me to buy it anyway. 

This is the stupidity that exists today and is fueled by social media. 

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25 minutes ago, Mostlylost said:

All my relatives went crazy and had to have Ivermectin (Ivexterm). I must have received whatsapp messages from 6 or 7 people even my daughter in the USA. 

My sister wanted me to buy it in Chapala because in GDL all the farmacias were out of it.  When I asked "Can you point me to a scientific study that shows it works?"  she said that people in Africa who take it aren't getting covid  so it must work and it won't hurt you.

I sent her links from South Africa, the US FDA, the WHO,  and Mexico all saying there is no scientific proof that it helps in any way.   She asked me to buy it anyway. 

This is the stupidity that exists today and is fueled by social media. 

Sure, but when they sleep at night did it stop the demons from raping them?

https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/report-texas-doctor-who-went-viral-with-unproven-covid-19-cure-believes-in-demon-sperm

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