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If Alfaro imposes any restrictions, they need to be state-wide. 

His holiday restriction (late-Dec. to early Jan.) that applied only to GDL and PV was misguided. 

Did he really think the tapatíos were going to stay home, and not go elsewhere for one of the biggest vacation periods of the year??  

He basically sent people from the state's highest infected areas into areas with lower infection rates.  

This past week's spike of infections in Chapala are the highest since Covid numbers were made available at local level. 

https://www.chapala.com/webboard/index.php?/topic/89886-weekly-increases-in-covid-cases-in-chapala-thru-jan-14th/&tab=comments#comment-680437

 

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We'll know soon....

Anuncio importante. Alrededor de las diez de la mañana, luego de reunirnos con la mesa de salud, daremos a conocer las conclusiones de la realidad que vivimos y explicaremos las medidas que se vienen para combatir al #COVID19 en Jalisco. Estén atentos y pasen la voz.Important announcement.
 
Around ten in the morning, after meeting with the health task force, we will announce the conclusions and explain the measures that are coming to combat #COVID19 in Jalisco. Stay tuned and spread the word.
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https://www.informador.mx/jalisco/COVID-19-Anuncian-nuevas-medidas-en-Jalisco-por-coronavirus-hasta-el-31-de-enero-20210115-0032.html

The Jalisco State Board of Health announced the new state application measures in the face of the COVID-19 coronavirus contagion crisis that will run from Saturday, January 16 to Sunday, January 31.

The governor of Jalisco announced the measures: first, there is no return for face-to-face classes, until further notice; face-to-face work activities that can be performed virtually are suspended, applies to public sector workers; activities that generate an agglomeration of people, such as recreational activities, are closed; public spaces are closed; social and family activity is restricted, although he clarified that the government cannot control what happens in the family nucleus; People over 60 must stay at home and, finally, he clarified that economic activity will not stop, businesses and commercial activities will be able to operate, with the condition of those that involve group activities.

He said that it is not about "scolding anyone" and requested the cooperation of people to comply with the measures. "Without the people, we can't. Help us."

The state governor acknowledged that the measures implemented for the end of the year and early January "had limited results."

He also asked the media and social network users not to spread false news or spread fear among people; "You don't play with health," he declared, while urging to speak the truth.

The head of the state Executive reported that the hospital level of Jalisco is 58.1%, placing the Metropolitan Area of Guadalajara as the area with the highest demand. He pointed out that the hospital system "has enormous pressure", but clarified that "it is not overwhelmed, we have room for maneuver."

They may operate:
Health sector
Basic public services
Private security
Energy, fuels and distribution
Banking, insurance and notaries
Industry and logistics operation
Building
Hotels without common areas
Public markets and neighborhood commerce
Public transport
They will not be able to operate:
Corporate offices and professional services
Government offices with the exception of ventilated
Bars, clubs and event rooms
Parks
Zoo and aquarium
Gyms and sports clubs
Cultural and entertainment activities
Recreational route
Cinemas, theaters and museums
Leisure activities and casinos
Activities with partial restrictions:
Self-service stores
Commercial plazas without common areas and 25 percent restricted parking
Restaurants with a capacity of 50 percent and until 10:00 PM
Tianguis and commercial corridors with restricted access to a person without minors or older adults

 

La Mesa de Salud del Estado de Jalisco anunció las nuevas medidas de aplicación estatal ante la crisis de contagios de coronavirus COVID-19 que van del sábado 16 hasta el domingo 31 de enero.

El gobernador de Jalisco anunció las medidas: primero, no hay regreso para las clases presenciales, hasta nuevo aviso; se suspenden actividades laborales presenciales que pueden realizarse virtualmente, aplica para los trabajadores del sector público; se cierran actividades que generen aglomeración de personas, como actividades recreativas; se cierran espacio públicos; se restringe la actividad social y familiar, aunque aclaró que el gobierno no puede controlar lo que sucede en el núcleo familiar; las personas mayores de 60 años deberán de quedarse en casa y, finalmente, aclaró que la actividad económica no parará, los negocios y actividades comerciales podrán operar, con la condición de aquellos que impliquen actividades grupales.

Dijo que no se trata de "regañar a nadie" y solicitó la colaboración de las personas para acatar las medidas. "Sin la gente, no podemos. Ayúdenos".

El gobernador del Estado reconoció que las medidas implementadas para el cierre del año y principios de enero "tuvieron resultados limitados".

Pidió además, a medios de comunicación y usuarios de redes sociales, no difundir noticias falsas ni propagar el miedo entre las personas; "con la salud no se juega", declaró, al tiempo que exhortó a hablar con la verdad.

El titular del Ejecutivo estatal informó que el nivel hospitalario de Jalisco es del 58.1%, colocando al Área Metropolitana de Guadalajara como la zona de mayor demanda. Señaló que el sistema hospitalario "tiene una enorme presión", pero aclaró que "no está desbordado, tenemos margen de maniobra".

Podrán operar:

Sector Salud

Servicios públicos básicos

Seguridad privada

Energía, combustibles y distribución

Banca, seguros y notarías

Industria y operación logística

Construcción

Hoteles sin áreas comunes

Mercados públicos y comercio barrial

Transporte público

No podrán operar:

Oficinas corporativas y servicios profesionales

Oficinas de gobierno con excepción de ventanillas

Bares, antros y salones de eventos

Parques

Zoológico y acuario

Gimnasios y clubes deportivos

Actividades culturales y de entretenimiento

Vía recreativa

Cines, teatros y museos

Actividades lúdicas y casinos

Actividades con restricciones parciales:

Tiendas de autoservicio

Plazas comerciales sin áreas comunes y estacionamiento restringido al 25 por ciento

Restaurantes con aforo al 50 por ciento y hasta las 10:00 PM

Tianguis y corredores comerciales con acceso restringido a una persona sin menores ni adultos mayores

OA

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2 minutes ago, Kim Coburn said:

Does this mean no dining indoors or outdoors? Also wondering if golfing is allowed as it’s recreational....

Listed under Partial Restrictions, no mention of indoor v. outdoor.  

Restaurants with a capacity of 50 percent and until 10:00 PM
 

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Anyone over 60 who, under previous buttons could go out for groceries or to pharmacy or other necessary place, medical, etc. (and still can), theoretically now must “stay at home” and not go to the restaurants, which are 50% open.....probably won’t happen Lakeside.

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59 minutes ago, adolphsj said:

Anyone over 60 who, under previous buttons could go out for groceries or to pharmacy or other necessary place, medical, etc. (and still can), theoretically now must “stay at home” and not go to the restaurants, which are 50% open.....probably won’t happen Lakeside.

Probably won't happen anywhere.   

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Well here we go again folks, something that has been proven not to work the govenor of Jalisco is going to try it again for the 3rd or 4th time.  He must be planning on running for Presidente soon.  If it didn't work the first time the second time or the third, what makes him think it will work this time?  I guess it just looks good on his résumé.   Remember that the Mexican people are not receiving stimulus checks nor receiving any government assistance in these difficult times.  They must be allowed to continue to work to feed and cloth their families.  Most Mexicans live in extended family homes with grandma living in the back room.  The virus is already so prevalent, if the truth were known, most of us have already been in contact with it and or have already had it without knowing.  These measures will do little to stop or slow down the infection rate it will just hurt the already hurting Mexican families.  But it will look good on Alfaro's portfolio and it may boost his self esteem.  The only measure that will help is to get the vaccine out to anybody over 60 and maybe the death rate will go way down.  That is it, period.  Anyways, after living with it for over a year, most people have accepted it and have lost their fear.

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16 minutes ago, dichosalocura said:

Well here we go again folks, something that has been proven not to work the govenor of Jalisco is going to try it again for the 3rd or 4th time.  He must be planning on running for Presidente soon.  If it didn't work the first time the second time or the third, what makes him think it will work this time?  I guess it just looks good on his résumé.   Remember that the Mexican people are not receiving stimulus checks nor receiving any government assistance in these difficult times.  They must be allowed to continue to work to feed and cloth their families.  Most Mexicans live in extended family homes with grandma living in the back room.  The virus is already so prevalent, if the truth were known, most of us have already been in contact with it and or have already had it without knowing.  These measures will do little to stop or slow down the infection rate it will just hurt the already hurting Mexican families.  But it will look good on Alfaro's portfolio and it may boost his self esteem.  The only measure that will help is to get the vaccine out to anybody over 60 and maybe the death rate will go way down.  That is it, period.  Anyways, after living with it for over a year, most people have accepted it and have lost their fear.

Would you prefer he did nothing like AMLO?

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I've never seen anyone in Mexico provide information as to WHERE people are getting covid and how these shutdowns correspond.  All I've seen is some indication that people get most cases at home where they are in prolonged contact with someone who is infectious.

Does this mean we can't go to Costco because we are over 60?

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7 minutes ago, Mainecoons said:

I've never seen anyone in Mexico provide information as to WHERE people are getting covid and how these shutdowns correspond.  All I've seen is some indication that people get most cases at home where they are in prolonged contact with someone who is infectious.

Does this mean we can't go to Costco because we are over 60?

I would say yes, if you are over 60 you can't go to Costco.  Will there be roadblocks? 

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The only thing that will work is a naturally ocurring herd immunity or herd immunity by way of vaccines.  The shut down we had this summer, that lasted almost 2 months, did not work nor did the following ones.  If they had we wouldn't be where we are today.  I guess you could say that if people just stopped acting like people we could stop the spreading of the disease, but that ain't going to happen is it?  Maybe, they should try ankle bracelets to enforce social distancing norms for the entire population.  When you get closer than 10 feet of another human being outside of your immediate family it begins to beep and alerts the authorities.

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Based on the progression of the virus in the world no one has a plan that has worked. Basically a lockdown does not stop the virus' progression it just delays it. 

The only exception being New Zealand which is very odd because their harshest rules were less than some other countries, and didn't even include mandatory mask use except on public transport.  Studies may show there have been other factors that have aided New Zealand.

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44 minutes ago, dichosalocura said:

The only thing that will work is a naturally occurring herd immunity or herd immunity by way of vaccines. The shut down we had this summer, that lasted almost 2 months, did not work nor did the following ones. If they had we wouldn't be where we are today. I guess you could say that if people just stopped acting like people we could stop the spreading of the disease, but that ain't going to happen is it? Maybe, they should try ankle bracelets to enforce social distancing norms for the entire population. When you get closer than 10 feet of another human being outside of your immediate family it begins to beep and alerts the authorities.

Would you concede that "maybe" this increase is being caused by the "new strain" that is popping up in other countries and who are conducting on going tests ( which Mexico appears not to be doing?)

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So will Soriana, Walmart, El Torrito etc. be looking at id's to see how old we are? I doubt it.  If we need groceries they aren't going to tell me I can't buy them because I am a couple years over 60.  How will they know if we are going into those stores to buy medicine and, while there buy groceries? 

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