artsnob Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Does anyone know when and where they will be available lakeside... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mostlylost Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, artsnob said: Does anyone know when and where they will be available lakeside... Absolutely no one knows including the federal government nor our number one mystic AMLO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsnob Posted December 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Maybe a doctor will tune in, there alot of them on this board.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 hours ago, artsnob said: Maybe a doctor will tune in, there alot of them on this board.. Oh so many you cant count them all......but their degrees, or lack of, is questionable. 😳 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanson Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Up in Seattle according to my GP, those of us in group 2 (those 75 and above) should be getting our first vaccine shot sometime in late Jan or early Feb. The Doctors and medical staff are getting there shots now. I sure want to come home to Ajijic. I am getting tired of TV dinners. All my relatives my age are staying in and self quarantining until we can get our shots. I made a lot of Christmas calls today. But none of us are getting together to party. I sure miss you all lakeside. I hope to be back in mid to late February. I wish you all a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVGRINGO Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 You will have to wait until some weeks after your second shot, but will still need to use PPEs and social distancing. Being vaccinated does not fully protect you; but it might help you survive a bout of CV19.......Maybe.......For some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 No time for us to be complicated .Regardless of what we hear or are fed, it seems that from other reliable sources it would seem that Mexico is having real problems with high infections and deaths and number of shots on order https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-55440940 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-55440940 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 On 12/25/2020 at 11:53 AM, RVGRINGO said: You will have to wait until some weeks after your second shot, but will still need to use PPEs and social distancing. Being vaccinated does not fully protect you; but it might help you survive a bout of CV19.......Maybe.......For some. RV I am hearing that one should wait a minimum of 7 days after the second shot. And yes, masks and distancing is still a very good idea even then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 On 12/26/2020 at 10:13 AM, lakeside7 said: No time for us to be complicated .Regardless of what we hear or are fed, it seems that from other reliable sources it would seem that Mexico is having real problems with high infections and deaths and number of shots on order https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-55440940 Recently I read that Mexico state, with less than 15 percent of the country's population has half the cases and deaths. I haven't read anything that offers an explanation for this. Mexico state is by far the most urbanized in the country. A lot of interesting data and common sense here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dichosalocura Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 Does everybody realize that the government vaccination program in Australia has been stopped due to people that got vaccinated later showing up testing positive for HIV. So many people that got vaccinated later tested positive for HIV that the government put an immediate stop to the vaccine. I realize the Australian government says the vaccine was locally made and has claimed that it only shows false positives......but still....who wants to take a Covid vaccine if you later test positive for HIV. Guys, none of these vaccines have been properly tested for sufficient years to prove that they are safe. Only get it if you trust the government beyond a shadow of a doubt. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-australia-55269381 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, dichosalocura said: Does everybody realize that the government vaccination program in Australia has been stopped due to people that got vaccinated later showing up testing positive for HIV. So many people that got vaccinated later tested positive for HIV that the government put an inmedidiate stop to the vaccine. I realize the Australian government says the vaccine was locally made and has claimed that it only shows false positives......but still....who wants to take a Covid vaccine if you later test positive for HIV. Guys, none of these vaccines have been properly tested for sufficient years to prove that they are safe. Only get it if you trust the government beyond a shadow of a doubt. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-australia-55269381 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-australia-55269381 "But it also generated HIV antibodies in some recipients - which meant it showed false positives for HIV. Further testing proved the HIV wasn't there." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dichosalocura Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 Re read my post, I pointed that out already so people couldn't accuse me later of misleading. But still would you be in line to get that Covid vaccine if people were later testing positive for HIV, be it only false positives or not? Sounds like the vaccine in some places can be scarier than the disease. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnMama Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 3 hours ago, dichosalocura said: Re read my post, I pointed that out already so people couldn't accuse me later of misleading. But still would you be in line to get that Covid vaccine if people were later testing positive for HIV, be it only false positives or not? Sounds like the vaccine in some places can be scarier than the disease. This was an Australian version of the vaccine. There are dozens of different vaccines all over the world in clinical trials. Some, like the Australian version, have been discarded. Others may prove to be valuable in the future. I see this as a crap shoot. Do we want to risk the awful short and long-term side effects that too often come with Covid infection, or risk the vaccine? We each make our own decisions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dichosalocura Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Of course MtnMama, and in my first post I think I made it perfectlly clear that it was a Covid vaccine made locally in Australia. But can you imagine a country the size and as rich as Australia can make mistakes with their vaccine, the USA and Europe most certainly can too. Every day I read about new evidence that if you have such and such ailment you should not take the vaccine or if you take such and such medicines then you should not take it. The vaccine is spanking new it has not even been around for 7 months yet. Lots of people have already had severe allergic reactions to it. A vaccine for a virus that has a 98 to 99% survival rate, it sounds like this brand new vaccine may possibly be riskier than getting the virus itself. Everybody has to make their own decisons regarding their own safety and what risks they feel safe taking and they must decide whether they can or should blindly trust the government to be honest with them to keep them safe. I for one will wait a few years before taking any novel vaccine. I'm just saying...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dichosalocura Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Upfront, I pointed out that it gave false positives, but that is kind of scary, don't ya think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibarra Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Deciding whether or not to get the vaccine is our first decision. Next, will we get documentation that proves we have been vaccinated? From what I am reading, proof of being vaccinated will probably be required to fly, perhaps proof will be needed when driving and trying to cross an international border. What if they decide we need proof to renew our car registration, pay property taxes etc., ect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dichosalocura Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Yeah, its a new scary world we are all moving into. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, ibarra said: Deciding whether or not to get the vaccine is our first decision. Next, will we get documentation that proves we have been vaccinated? From what I am reading, proof of being vaccinated will probably be required to fly, perhaps proof will be needed when driving and trying to cross an international border. What if they decide we need proof to renew our car registration, pay property taxes etc., ect. I certainly hope that anyone traveling , by air, cruising visiting a foreign country etc, will have to show proof of having been vaccinated. The reason countries like New Zealand have low , non existent pandemic is because it acted quickly to close its borders and will only allow returnees to isolate at their own expense and the process is closely monitored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, dichosalocura said: Yeah, its a new scary world we are all moving into. Only if one gets scared with a solution to a pandemic as opposed to having to living in one. Personally I'm for the former, not the latter. BTW, you quoted a 98-99% SURVIVAL rate. Do you have some data that suggests that there is a 1-2% death rate with these new vaccines? Or did I misread your intent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dichosalocura Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 RickS, I guess we will know the answer to that in the next few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Maybe so, maybe not. But suggesting that as a fact now is more than misleading. Being 'of an age' and waiting patiently for my vaccine shot I pay close attention to these kind of reports. So far I have heard of 'allergic' and 'severely allergic' reactions... one even from a doc that had known allergies to shell fish... but I've certainly heard of NO deaths. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringohombre Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Those scaredy-cat people here afraid of taking a proven vaccine for worldwide pandemic relief should rethink their position. The tiny, tiny, tiny % of people with minimal side effects or injection site irritation is well worth the elimination of this scourge to mankind. The short term "herd immunity" for ALL depends on MOST taking this vaccine. Lets not be selfish regarding this. I will be first in line at the SAT clinic when my number comes up!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudgirl Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 hours ago, dichosalocura said: Upfront, I pointed out that it gave false positives, but that is kind of scary, don't ya think? It was a TRIAL. All sorts of medications are found to be dangerous or ineffective in trials, that is why they are trialed first before releasing them for public consumption. And you do understand the difference between having antibodies for something and actually having the disease? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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