CHILLIN Posted November 27, 2020 Report Share Posted November 27, 2020 2 hours ago, cedros said: She has tried that There is no that, meaning one magic bullet. Different strains all different chemicals and strengths. Finding the one which unlocks the key is the hard part. She will probably have to mix the Ativan intake, with a medical cannabis prescription. Cannabis is soon to be legal in Mexico, and already is in Canada, but try sending some cannabis grown in your garden to your friend in Canada. I think we both know how that will go. Not to play down her affliction though. Anxiety is a horrible problem in today's world. There are many other drugs, such as Effexor, safer for long term use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Solar Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 To Angus and Cedros; 1 - while I wouldn't reco sending it through the mail w/o a Rx to support it, there is no way it is a prison type offense. 2 - the packaging in MX doesn't lend itself well to sending any kind of quantities in the mail, it is going to get detected and stopped 3 - better to get a Dr. in Canada to prescribe it, I agree 4 - other option especially in BC....some good legal THC products like THC gummy bears or similar treats...... Suerte. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyPanda Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 Be it prescription drugs or over-the-counter drugs when such mail is identified, it will be seized and destroyed. And both the receiver and the sender can likely be arrested, face fines or possible jail time. US law. https://prescriptionhope.com/blog-penalty-for-mailing-prescription-drugs-complete-guide/ Almost nothing gets inspected leaving Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 Whilst I have sympathy for people who are "hurting" I hope this drug will not led to another Opioid epidemic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 50 minutes ago, lakeside7 said: Whilst I have sympathy for people who are "hurting" I hope this drug will not led to another Opioid epidemic. You're too late. Antidepressants have been handed out like candy for far too long now so it's already an epidemic. The MOST important thing to know is that you must WEAN yourself off them over time. Don't ever stop them cold turkey. https://www.addictioncenter.com/benzodiazepines/ativan/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudgirl Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Ferret said: You're too late. Antidepressants have been handed out like candy for far too long now so it's already an epidemic. The MOST important thing to know is that you must WEAN yourself off them over time. Don't ever stop them cold turkey. https://www.addictioncenter.com/benzodiazepines/ativan/ Ativan isn't an anti-depressant, though. It's a anti-anxiety medication. The anti-anxiety meds are addictive. Anti-depressants aren't, physiologically, but you're still supposed to wean yourself off them slowly. And although the anti-anxiety meds are physically addictive, it really depends on how you take them. Someone who takes a Valium or a Xanax before getting on a plane because they have a fear of flying isn't going to then be addicted. I used to take a half a Valium maybe twice a month when I was going through some sleep issues and would wake up in the middle of the night and couldn't get back to sleep because my brain immediately went in gear stressing out about something. I certainly never got addicted to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 You are correct mudgirl. It's not classified as an anti-depressant. Ativan is a benzodiazapine. Of course it depends on how you use them and the way you use them is not concerning. ANY benzo is only supposed to be used short term but people do get addicted to them very easily. https://www.verywellmind.com/benzodiazepine-ativan-lorazepam-379676 https://americanaddictioncenters.org/benzodiazepine/length-of-withdrawal https://sunrisehouse.com/anxiety-disorder-treatment/antidepressants-benzodiazepines/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyPanda Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 7 hours ago, lakeside7 said: Whilst I have sympathy for people who are "hurting" I hope this drug will not led to another Opioid epidemic. Isn't that kind of a far-fetched leap of logic? It presumes an awful lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvsdawgs Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 Cousin should be dealing with the medical profession and not trying to get meds from another country. There may be a reason the Doctors are not giving her this med. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 Tell your Canadian cousin to visit her friendly neighbourhood cannabis store and buy 2 grams of a popular strain called White Widow, or Crystal, which is cross between White Widow and Northern Lights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 I would try a CBD oil before a cannabis that contains THC. There is no high with CBD (cannabidiol) made from hemp. Just a calming effect. https://www.anxiety.org/is-cannabis-an-effective-treatment-for-anxiety-what-research-shows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, Ferret said: There is no high with CBD... What does one think her desire really is? Her doctors seem to ask the same question, maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 I added a link to that post Angus. I believe her desire is to just be able to cope and help with her anxiety but to stay grounded. The THC may seriously complicate the problem because of the "high" and may also exacerbate the anxiety. Depends on the individual. imho, she should be seeing a Medical Doctor who is well versed in Medical Cannabis (which includes Cannabidiol) that will help her wean off the Ativan. Having anxiety and being unable to cope can have a devastating impact on your quality of life. I wish her success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 To me CBD is like no alcohol beer, just bloat without the buzz. YMMV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 And I detest the buzz from either alcohol or cannabis. YMMV. For the record, I use CBD oil during the day for pain and the delightful "side effect" is that nothing really pisses me off any more. I take about a half a grain of rice worth of high THC concentrated oil sublingually just before bed. High? Dunno 'cuz I'm fast asleep. THC is a REM suppressant and I started using it in November of 2014 to help improve the quality of my sleep. The delightful side effect of THAT was that it also suppressed my cataplexy. Win/win for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 3 hours ago, AngusMactavish said: What does one think her desire really is? Her doctors seem to ask the same question, maybe? For doctors the workings of the brain are still mostly a dark art. I was misdiagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder because my hands started to shake. It took the doctors 4 years to figure that out, and a lot of useless drugs which didn't help at all. One of them, the only one that worked, was Lorezapam, same as Ativan. My doctor at the time would not renew the prescription unless I told him I needed it for alcohol withdrawl. I told him this was not true, and I could not say that. So he just shrugged, and kept me on the drugs I never needed in the first place. Finally my new doctor got me in to see a clinical neurologist specializing in movement disorders. It took 3 months to get an appointmen because he was the only one in British Columbia. I should mention that Quality Care has managed to draft one of these rare specialists. Anyways, he made me do a lot of drawing tests, which determine the frequency of the tremors which differ with each brain disorder (parkinsons, dementia, essential, Lou Gerhigs, etc. Then he wrote "Essential Tremor" and said that is what I had. Not dangerous in anyway, easy to control with the right medication. Turns out I inherited it from my maternal Grandfather who fought the same battle because they misdiagnosed him with Parkinson's until a young doctor spotted it, and as with me, the tremors stopped overnight. He lived to 97 years old. With these type of disorders you are really on your own. For help I would suggest that your cousin. subscribe to a womens blog called Lily Lines, which is affiliated with the Washington Post. It has a long running series about anxiety, how it makes them feel, and what they do to overcome it. This may help her a lot to know there are thousands of women out there with same problems. https://www.thelily.com/check-out-lily-lines-2/ https://www.thelily.com/tag/anxiety-chronicles/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudgirl Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 hours ago, CHILLIN said: I was misdiagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder because my hands started to shake. My dad always had a tremor in his hands, even when he was young. He didn't take any medication for it. Other than that, he was perfectly healthy and lived to 92. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Here is, imho, the BEST CBD oil product FOR CANADIANS: https://mailchi.mp/aleafiahealth.com/aleafia-health-launches-high-potency-cbd-50-cannabis-oil?e=868dc9e840 There is a link to their website in the body of the above link. I forwarded the e-mail I received from Alefia this morning to my stepson and a friend who also needs it with this other information.. Quote This is the company to buy from, in Canada. This is a new product for them and ALMOST is as good as NuLeaf Naturals. This contains 50 mg. of CBD per ml. which works out to 2.5 mg. a drop. Two rules of thumb: 1) 20 drops to a ml 2) Therapeutic dose is between 5 mg and 15 mg PER DAY. Each person is different in their needs. Some people can get by with dosing once a day. I need two drops at 6 a.m. and two drops at 6 p.m. This looks like a great product... CO2 extracted and full spectrum. The site (link provided) also tells you how to register and find a clinic etc. For sake of comparison: NuLeaf is TWICE extracted at two different temperatures and contains terpenes as well as other cannabinoids (CBG and CBN). NuLeaf's concentration works out to 3.0 mg. per drop . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberjack Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Firstly, all pharmacies in Ajijic are out of stock of Ativan. Lots of drugs are out of stock. secondly, Ativan costs 5 times or more in Mexico than Canada. $1400 pesos for 80 x 2 mg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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