Bisbee Gal Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Weekly case increases between July 2nd and Oct. 29th in Chapala. Data from Official Jalisco State Government Covid site, https://coronavirus.jalisco.gob.mx/ Date Cases New Weekly Cases July 2nd 33 - July 9th 36 3 July 16th 37 1 July 23rd 41 4 July 30th 43 2 Aug. 6th 52 9 Aug. 13th 61 9 Aug. 20th 74 13 Aug. 27th 87 13 Sept. 3rd 94 7 Sept. 10th 98 4 Sept. 17th 112 14 Sept. 24th 123 11 Oct. 1st 133 10 Oct. 8th 148 15 Oct. 15th 157 9 Oct. 22nd 171 14 Oct. 29th 188 17 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 This doesn't mean much unless the corresponding weekly testing rate is also shown. We know the number of actual cases far exceeds the known cases. We also know the testing rate is increasing. Also, how many of these cases are expats? I've yet to see much information on WHERE people are encountering and contracting covid. From other places it appears that most cases are contracted at home. Are people getting covid in Walmart, Costco, Soriana with all their precautions? If not, why are they being closed? From other places it appears bars and public gatherings are the most hazardous followed by restaurants. From those places I've seen nothing that suggests going to a big box with all the precautions they are applying is a likely place to contract covid. Let's try to shed more light and less fear on this topic. Even if the local authorities don't chose to do so. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisbee Gal Posted October 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 @MainecoonsFeel free to research then add any of the data you desire. I am not providing this information to invoke fear, as you claim. People like yourself can choose to ignore it. 7 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Posting unqualified data accomplishes just what other than to create fear? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Here is what qualifying data looks like: Low Risk: 1 Opening the mail Low Risk: 2 Getting restaurant takeout Pumping gasoline Playing tennis Going camping Low-Moderate Risk: 3 Grocery shopping Going for a walk, run, or bike ride with others Playing golf Low-Moderate Risk: 4 Staying at a hotel for two nights Sitting in a doctor’s waiting room Going to a library or museum Eating in a restaurant (outside) Walking in a busy downtown Spending an hour at a playground Moderate Risk: 5 Having dinner at someone else’s house Attending a backyard barbecue Going to a beach Shopping at a mall Moderate Risk: 6 Sending kids to school, camp, or day care Working a week in an office building Swimming in a public pool Visiting an elderly relative or friend in their home Moderate-High Risk: 7 Going to a hair salon or barbershop Eating in a restaurant (inside) Attending a wedding or funeral Traveling by plane Playing basketball Playing football Hugging or shaking hands when greeting a friend High Risk: 8 Eating at a buffet Working out at a gym Going to an amusement park Going to a movie theater High Risk: 9 Attending a large music concert Going to a sports stadium Attending a religious service with 500-plus worshipers Going to a bar https://hartfordhealthcare.org/about-us/news-press/news-detail?articleid=26936&publicId=395 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 This is NOT meant to be argumentative. I'm not sure of the value of someone(s) trying to define something this finely. IMO the average person is not going to wade through 9 levels of risk and be able to decipher what it might mean to them to be doing something at Level 5 vs Level 6.... because there probably isn't any measurable difference in reality. Just list things in order from Low to moderate to high seems more reasonable (to me). Calling it a 4 vs a 6 ads nothing. BTW, to aide in 'qualifying', it appears that this list was developed by the Texas Medical Association COVID-19 Task Force and 'just' reported by the Hartford Healthcare System.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losgatos Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Much appreciated Bisbee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcscats Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 8:19 AM, Mainecoons said: Posting unqualified data accomplishes just what other than to create fear? Excuse me but you are wrong. The numbers are very useful to me. As long as you use the same method to calculate the numbers which they do it is very useful. Whats with you and fear? I have no fear from these numbers. Keep it to yourself moderator and let us decide whether something is useful or not. Thanks Bisbee for posting these numbers. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 I fear nothing but there seems to be a lot of fear in this expat community despite their success in almost universally avoiding covid. That fear is being manifested by constantly obsessing over what others are doing or not doing and over unqualified numbers which are truly minimal when expressed as a percent of the population. As an engineer I know that unqualified numbers tend to distort reality and indeed this is a common tactic among those that seek to influence using them. I am not wrong I just don't agree with your opinion. We have no idea what method is being used or how many of these cases are really about contributing causes because that is not being reported here. I personally know of 5 cases all but one of which were quickly ended using the combination of hydroxy/zith/zinc. The one was not able to start the treatment before the covid was well along. If one doesn't listen to those who have a political agenda wrapped up in what should be only a medical situation, it is easier to keep things in perspective and not allow oneself to be misled from treatments that work. Or be sold containment strategies that don't work and that are really about exercising power and control. Since you addressed me specifically LCScats, I have a question for you. Why do so many people here get so angry and personal when they encounter an opinion that they do not agree with? In another vein, interesting report here: https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/coronavirus/minister-sidesteps-question-on-nonessential-travel-at-northern-border/ Despite official policies it appears the border isn't all that closed. A group of my motorcycle riding friends had no problem getting into Mexico from Texas last week. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, Mainecoons said: Why do so many people here get so angry and personal when they encounter an opinion that they do not agree with? They know that soon the last word will be written and the thread locked. Some opinions are more important than others. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xena Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 hours ago, AngusMactavish said: They know that soon the last word will be written and the thread locked. Some opinions are more important than others. Yup. I think all the usual bases have been covered. The next post needs to work in “his” college students and the apartment in Guadalajara, THEN the thread can be locked. 😆 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy2013 Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 I know of several cases being diagnosed as COVID-19 by a local doctor that lots of people go to. They were devastated. Then other symptoms appeared, come to find out they did not have Covid but dengue. Of course reported as COVID-19. So the numbers could vary either way. Better to be safe and follow guidelines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 On 11/2/2020 at 9:05 AM, AngusMactavish said: They know that soon the last word will be written and the thread locked. Some opinions are more important than others. Having your pain in advance Angus? Little snark there Xena You two have demonstrated exactly what gets threads locked. You both might want to consider the concept of self fulfilling prophecies. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, Mainecoons said: You two have demonstrated exactly what gets threads locked. You both might want to consider the concept of self fulfilling prophecies. The projectionist too has an opinion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisbee Gal Posted November 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 hours ago, daisy2013 said: I know of several cases being diagnosed as COVID-19 by a local doctor that lots of people go to. They were devastated. Then other symptoms appeared, come to find out they did not have Covid but dengue. Of course reported as COVID-19. So the numbers could vary either way. Better to be safe and follow guidelines. Baloney. Cases do not get reported as Covid on either the State or Federal level without a positive Covid test from a hospital or certified lab. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy2013 Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 Well supposedly his lab is 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudgirl Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 4:50 PM, daisy2013 said: Well supposedly his lab is "Supposedly" shouldn't be presented as fact. You said in the previous post "Of course reported as COVID". Really? Do you have access to this doctor's reports? And I'm not sure how a doctor misdiagnoses dengue for COVID. The symptoms really aren't the same, aside from fever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy2013 Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 11 hours ago, mudgirl said: "Supposedly" shouldn't be presented as fact. You said in the previous post "Of course reported as COVID". Really? Do you have access to this doctor's reports? And I'm not sure how a doctor misdiagnoses dengue for COVID. The symptoms really aren't the same, aside from fever. The bottom line is they were diagnosed as COVID-19 by well known local doctor. Most know who he is, most go to him which is why they went. When other systems developed they went to someone else. This is when they were told of dengue. I will not say his name If you want to know pm me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisbee Gal Posted November 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, daisy2013 said: The bottom line is they were diagnosed as COVID-19 by well known local doctor. Most know who he is, most go to him which is why they went. When other systems developed they went to someone else. This is when they were told of dengue. I will not say his name If you want to know pm me. You get diagnosed with Covid when you get a positive result from a Covid test done in a hospital or certified lab. Period. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy2013 Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 Do you know any local doctors with their own lab or where they would get it tested 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy2013 Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 No matter what anyone says there was a diagnosis that said they have Covid-19. Very disturbing news the doctor is on Ajijic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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