Eric Blair Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 This disqualifies you even if she has a TIN (Taxpayer Identification Number). Don't know about kids born in the U.A. Probably need an SS number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil in mexico Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 I have read this on another site, i don't understand the reasoning for this. I would not expect the person ( spouse )with no a social security number but only a tax id number to not receive the stimulus but the person holding a legitimate s s number and filing a income form that I disagree with ! I will wait a see i have no other option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 It is for "residents" of the USA to stimulate spending. If a spouse does not have green card or SS number than they are not qualified because they are not a "resident". Resident is defined as someone who has the right to live in the USA. If you have children on your tax return as claimed as dependents they would have a SS number. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil in mexico Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 I agree with part of your statement but I as a taxpayer and on social security i should be entitle to the stimulus money ( for me only ) i filed a joint return with my mexican wife in 2018 and paid some tax. I understand no stimulus for her but I think that should not disqualify from receiving 1200. dollars 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ea93105 Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 No check just because you have a nonresident spouse ? That's seriously outrageous 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapalence Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, ea93105 said: No check just because you have a nonresident spouse ? That's seriously outrageous It's beyond outrageous, but we shall not get political here. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil in mexico Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 This might be a situation of not understanding the written text because if it is factual it makes no sense! At least to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out1 Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Wow, the check is for US residents, not non-residents; if your spouse is a non-resident you are probably are a non-resident as well. No politics just common sense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ea93105 Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Indefensible Then again someone might try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Can you tell me where you got the 'only US Residents' info from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ea93105 Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Out1 said: Wow, the check is for US residents, not non-residents; if your spouse is a non-resident you are probably are a non-resident as well. No politics just common sense. Are you saying that if you marry a non resident ( who by the way is eligible to receive SS payments after your passing ) you lose US residency ? I don't think the IRS/Treasury applies rules because of "probably" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Colibri. Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Unfortunately it is true. "Mixed Status" families are being excluded in this stimulus go around. If you and your spouse filed a joint tax return, you with a SSN and her with a TIN, the entire family is ineligible for the payment. If you haven't filed yet, only file for yourself and the kids (if they have SSN's). Hopefully they will correct this if there should be another stimulus package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil in mexico Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, RickS said: Can you tell me where you got the 'only US Residents' info from? I believe i read this on a irs site several days ago but it was worded somewhat different so I guess I'll wait and see. I don't know where E Blair read this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out1 Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 https://www.irs.gov/coronavirus/get-my-payment-frequently-asked-questions#elig Eligibility and General Information Use tab to go to the next focusable element Who is eligible? U.S. residents will receive the Economic Impact Payment of $1,200 for individual or head of household filers, and $2,400 for married filing jointly if they are not a dependent of another taxpayer and have a work eligible Social Security number with adjusted gross income up to: $75,000 for individuals $112,500 for head of household filers and $150,000 for married couples filing joint returns Taxpayers will receive a reduced payment if their AGI is between: $75,000 and $99,000 if their filing status was single or married filing separately 112,500 and $136,500 for head of household $150,000 and $198,000 if their filing status was married filing jointly The amount of the reduced payment will be based upon the taxpayers specific adjusted gross income. Eligible retirees and recipients of Social Security, Railroad Retirement, disability or veterans' benefits as well as taxpayers who do not make enough money to normally have to file a tax return will receive a payment. This also includes those who have no income, as well as those whose income comes entirely from certain benefit programs, such as Supplemental Security Income benefits. Retirees who receive either Social Security retirement or Railroad Retirement benefits will also receive payments automatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 ... but later on they say, under who is NOT eligible, "they who are a Nonresident ALIEN". And they talk about 'taxpayers' being eligible. If not physically 'residing'... as in Non-Resident... is really a criteria then they are going to have to get a bunch of deposits/checks back. Think that will happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil in mexico Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, .Colibri. said: Unfortunately it is true. "Mixed Status" families are being excluded in this stimulus go around. If you and your spouse filed a joint tax return, you with a SSN and her with a TIN, the entire family is ineligible for the payment. If you haven't filed yet, only file for yourself and the kids (if they have SSN's). Hopefully they will correct this if there should be another stimulus package. That is my intention i haven't filed for 2019 so I will be doing that soon can't hurt hmm now I know why I have been procrastinating about filing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtruckman Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 The first two words: "U.S. residents" Not U.S. Citizens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaDamer Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Nonsense. There is nothing on the IRS website stating such a condition. There is a statement saying "non-resident aliens" are not eligible, but that does not change the status of a US citizen spouse. And there is no condition that one be a US resident. I am a US citizen with a permanente here, and my wife and I already received our stimulus checks. https://www.irs.gov/coronavirus/get-my-payment-frequently-asked-questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 13 hours ago, phil in mexico said: I agree with part of your statement but I as a taxpayer and on social security i should be entitle to the stimulus money ( for me only ) i filed a joint return with my mexican wife in 2018 and paid some tax. I understand no stimulus for her but I think that should not disqualify from receiving 1200. dollars You are not disqualified unless you renounced your citizenship you are a legal US resident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 12 hours ago, ea93105 said: No check just because you have a nonresident spouse ? That's seriously outrageous They are a resident their spouse is not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 12 hours ago, Out1 said: Wow, the check is for US residents, not non-residents; if your spouse is a non-resident you are probably are a non-resident as well. No politics just common sense. Resident is defind as someone with the right to live permantly in the USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ea93105 Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mostlylost said: They are a resident their spouse is not Which is why they should still receive a check no? I understand the non-resident spouse not being eligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 HA! No soup for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, ea93105 said: Which is why they should still receive a check no? I understand the non-resident spouse not being eligible. Yes they will receive the stimulus money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 10 hours ago, fordtruckman said: The first two words: "U.S. residents" Not U.S. Citizens. All US citizens are US residents. They only loose that if they renounce their citizenship. That is why US citizens must pay income tax no matter where they reside. And green card holders are also Residents. The referrence to "resident" means anyone who has the legal right to live in the USA on a permanent basis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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