RickS Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2020/03/31/coronavirus-crisis-mike-pompeo-says-americans-should-come-home-now/5096191002/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bournemouth Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 The local ambassador has being saying that even residents should return home - he fails to understand that most of us in Mexico are "home". 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 Wouldn't want to wait until American Airlines gets the word on the 12 BILLION dollar bailout request... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jreboll Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 I’m here in Texas with my A/C on and watching tv or on the internet all day long. I’d rather be outside on the patio, enjoying the weather and the scenery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, bournemouth said: The local ambassador has being saying that even residents should return home - he fails to understand that most of us in Mexico are "home". With respect there are no"local" Ambassadors. The respective country Ambassador is located in their Embassy's in MX city For many weeks all of the respective Countries Ambassadors have been urging visitors to leave because of the uncertainty of available flights etc and or because of the ever moving dynamics of the Virus and regulations being imposed by the host and other counties which you may have to travel though to get home My take on what the US Ambassador was refereeing to was "even residents should return home" if "ex pat residents" find there situation threatened then return back "home".The fact that you do not have a residence etc in the US does not preclude you going to a place where you may feel more comfortable. If you are happy here good, hunker down and follow the directives of the MX government What is always frustrating during these emergency situation is when people, bitch and ignore what their particular Ambassadors are saying....., bad mouthing their countries for being scare mongering ... then expecting help when they decide to leave and found the last plane has left a week ago. The embassies are not set up as Super Travel Agencies to help the irresponsible people , and expecting the taxpayers (you and me)to find them some private jet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, ComputerGuy said: Wouldn't want to wait until American Airlines gets the word on the 12 BILLION dollar bailout request... Details on that. Half is a loan. https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/03/31/american-airlines-to-seek-12-billion-in-government.aspx Remember the GM and Chrysler bailouts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 I do, and the only ones that benefited were the corporations. A quick look at their annual reports reveals the massive amounts of NET profit they continued to make. Same applies here. The net income all the airlines make is mind-boggling. For them to even think of a bailout is pure greed. And yet we know that is exactly the first thing they thought about. Plus: half is a loan? A $6 billion loan? Seriously, folks. How about then paying your staff to be off work, and housing all the homeless while we're at it. Priorities. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 Possibly the Ambassador was giving a personal opinion. The official State Department statement was: "Many travelers worldwide have reported unexpected flight cancellations and limited flight availability. If your travel has been disrupted, please contact your airline" "The Department of State has issued a Global Level 4 Health Advisory for COVID-19. In countries where commercial departure options remain available, U.S. citizens who normally reside in the United States should arrange for immediate return to the United States, unless they are prepared to remain abroad for an indefinite period." It was issued as an advisory to all Americans traveling anywhere outside of the United States. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hud Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, ComputerGuy said: Same applies here. That is not true. You are not paying attention to facts here, but aren't you a US basher from another country? Then, that is par for you people that do that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 Oh my god, you are such a tit. 3 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 4 hours ago, ComputerGuy said: I do, and the only ones that benefited were the corporations. A quick look at their annual reports reveals the massive amounts of NET profit they continued to make. Same applies here. The net income all the airlines make is mind-boggling. For them to even think of a bailout is pure greed. And yet we know that is exactly the first thing they thought about. Plus: half is a loan? A $6 billion loan? Seriously, folks. How about then paying your staff to be off work, and housing all the homeless while we're at it. Priorities. Well you are entitled to your opinion and as a Canadian citizen I assume you are working to see your government does what you think is right. Both political parties in the U.S. apparently feel it is vital for these companies not to collapse and take the air transportation network down with them. I frankly do not feel qualified to judge whether they are right or not. We are traveling in uncharted waters here, the closest approximation was the Great Depression. The government at that time seemed to focus on what you consider important and just let the businesses and banks fail. That economic collapse lasted a full decade and was only ended by the second world war. The government's policies never did succeed in ending it. There was a lot of handouts and make work programs but the jobs did not come back for the most part until the shooting started. It feels good to hate the company and love the employee but in the real world if there is no company there is no employee. Maybe that was the problem then and maybe that is what they are trying to avoid. Now let's get back on topic, please. As you know Canadian citizens are also being urged to return home. We're hanging tough here. This is home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 I just cannot dig up the intellectual energy to even try and answer that. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudgirl Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 6 hours ago, Mainecoons said: in the real world if there is no company there is no employee In the real world, if there are no employees, the company can't survive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudgirl Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 14 hours ago, bournemouth said: he fails to understand that most of us in Mexico are "home". That's probably unthinkable to him- that any American wouldn't consider the US to be home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 10 hours ago, ComputerGuy said: Oh my god, you are such a tit. That is the "Sunday School" version of how I would describe him! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 6 hours ago, ComputerGuy said: I just cannot dig up the intellectual energy to even try and answer that. "Now let´s get back on topic, please"...…... Especially after Mainecoons does his "political trolling" and puts on his Moderator cap. Don´t get dragged into the political mud by the "political intellectually superior" with his condescending political diatribes. Better to debate the Great Sphynx of Giza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 45 minutes ago, mudgirl said: In the real world, if there are no employees, the company can't survive. There were "people" long before there were companies and multimillionaires, and even today, a lot of people exist without depending on companies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 On 4/2/2020 at 12:16 AM, slainte39 said: "Now let´s get back on topic, please"...…... Especially after Mainecoons does his "political trolling" and puts on his Moderator cap. Don´t get dragged into the political mud by the "political intellectually superior" with his condescending political diatribes. Better to debate the Great Sphynx of Giza. Of course it doesn't concern you that as usual I responded to a political comment first posted by another with a little history lesson. No, as per usual, when you don't like the response your first resort is always personal attack. You haven't a clue how to actually debate let alone be civil. You're a walking compendium of nonsense you can't defend in a fact based discussion. Feel free to whine about this as a personal attack in response to same. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 On 4/2/2020 at 12:21 AM, slainte39 said: There were "people" long before there were companies and multimillionaires, and even today, a lot of people exist without depending on companies. Corporations like any other business are organized by people whose energy and inventiveness create jobs for other people. So when you attack corporations you are simply displaying your ignorance of how jobs are created and you are attacking employees. Everyone in a corporation is an employee of the shareholders. In turn you will find most corporation shares are held in funds that are held in large part in retirement accounts. Like the ones many folks here depend on. The fact is the few create for the many, it has always been that way and always will be. This is exactly why communism and socialism always fail because the efforts of the few are stolen and handed over to the many who don't have a clue how to keep things going. So they stop. And you get Cuba, Venezuela, the Soviet Union, eastern Europe before its emancipation and so on. Self employed people, and I was one, are creators of their own jobs. They are not employees, they are employers. Many like myself chose to only employ themselves for personal reasons or because the work is best suited to one person. Quite a few people "exist" because government takes from the productive and gives to the non productive. That works until the taking gets so large the productive either stop producing or they do a good job of hiding it. That too is history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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