rafterbr Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 I have returned to Oklahoma to take care of my cattle. Prices for calves have dropped by 30 to 40 cents whereas old cow and bull prices have increased by 10 to 15 cents. This is due to Hamburger meat, they are trying to get all they can. Hamburger meat can be used to make many different dishes and can be frozen for up to 3 or four months. Steak and roasts can be frozen up to a year at zero degrees farenheit. Some stores here have already started limiting hamburger purchase to one 2 pound package. They use to have 5 and 10 pound packages but I don't see them any more. I am selling my old cows but I am sure there will be a nation wide shortage of beef, especially hamburger meat. The other thing I can't find is pinto beans. I am sure where you come from in the United States or Canada there is items there which cannot be found but I think Hamburger meat will be a national shortage. There is plenty of chicken and it is easy to increase supplies. For cows you only get one calf a year. You might consider buying some extra hamburger meat for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBee Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 Great now will have a run on hamburger meat.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelsZ4 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 So if everyone starts hoarding hamburger meat as you suggest won’t there be a shortage ? So won’t the price you get per cow increase...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 Or buy a gallon of organic soy milk, stay at home and make your own tofu and tempeh. Ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 The old cows would like for you to hold off on the hoarding as long as possible, in order to be of a little more value plus they will get to enjoy a few more blades of grass. Oklahoma cattlemen...…... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 there is no need to hoard and if you cannot find beef there is plenty of alternative . Thanks for the information but no thanks.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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happyjillin Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, slainte39 said: The old cows would like for you to hold off on the hoarding as long as possible, in order to be of a little more value plus they will get to enjoy a few more blades of grass. Oklahoma cattlemen...…... laugh[thingy] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolphsj Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 Where does the toilet paper come in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 I live in Colorado where we produce a good bit of beef. And right next door to Oklahoma and Texas where they produce a ton more. Last week my Kroger store had no fresh beef of any kind. Fast forward to yesterday and a trip to my favorite small store with a great meat department and they had.... NO hamburger, some steaks which I bought. Then I drove over to my Kroger store again for weekly staples and.... still not ONE ounce of fresh meat of any kind. A 15' long meat counter and it was dark! Fish, yes. And the butcher said he had no idea when they would get any meat. I think... or rather thought.... that I was too old to go vegan. I don't even like the sound of that word! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vetteforron Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, rafterbr said: I have returned to Oklahoma to take care of my cattle. Prices for calves have dropped by 30 to 40 cents whereas old cow and bull prices have increased by 10 to 15 cents. This is due to Hamburger meat, they are trying to get all they can. Hamburger meat can be used to make many different dishes and can be frozen for up to 3 or four months. Steak and roasts can be frozen up to a year at zero degrees farenheit. Some stores here have already started limiting hamburger purchase to one 2 pound package. They use to have 5 and 10 pound packages but I don't see them any more. I am selling my old cows but I am sure there will be a nation wide shortage of beef, especially hamburger meat. The other thing I can't find is pinto beans. I am sure where you come from in the United States or Canada there is items there which cannot be found but I think Hamburger meat will be a national shortage. There is plenty of chicken and it is easy to increase supplies. For cows you only get one calf a year. You might consider buying some extra hamburger meat for the future. Holy Cow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, rafterbr said: I have returned to Oklahoma to take care of my cattle. Prices for calves have dropped by 30 to 40 cents whereas old cow and bull prices have increased by 10 to 15 cents. This is due to Hamburger meat, they are trying to get all they can. Hamburger meat can be used to make many different dishes and can be frozen for up to 3 or four months. Steak and roasts can be frozen up to a year at zero degrees farenheit. Some stores here have already started limiting hamburger purchase to one 2 pound package. They use to have 5 and 10 pound packages but I don't see them any more. I am selling my old cows but I am sure there will be a nation wide shortage of beef, especially hamburger meat. The other thing I can't find is pinto beans. I am sure where you come from in the United States or Canada there is items there which cannot be found but I think Hamburger meat will be a national shortage. There is plenty of chicken and it is easy to increase supplies. For cows you only get one calf a year. You might consider buying some extra hamburger meat for the future. And for all the readers in the USA who will think about this. His old cow & bull prices will go up if you purchase to hoard beef. Thus this post could benefit him financially!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mostlylost said: And for all the readers in the USA who will think about this. His old cow & bull prices will go up if you purchase to hoard beef. Thus this post could benefit him financially!!!! Why was this post necessary? Anyone having trouble finding hamburger around here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyjillin Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 No problema. We get all we want,done the way we want at the Mercado. Most cattle ranchers I know raise and finish steers for consumption, so what's this talk about butchering old cows and bulls anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafterbr Posted March 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, happyjillin said: No problema. We get all we want,done the way we want at the Mecado. Most cattle ranchers I know raise and finish steers for consumption, so what's this talk about butchering old cows and bulls anyway. Very few ranches finish their calfs. They go to large feedlots. There is no way readers from here with all their friends will affect the prices of the millions of people who buy beef. I was simply giving a heads up. Prudent people may want to store a little extra beef. If and when it gets bad in Mexico it will probably be worse than here. The processor uses cows and bulls for hamburger, bologna and other lunch meats. Your steaks and fine cuts come from the fed out calves from the feed lots. People in Mexico have not walked into a Walmart or grocery store and found the shelves empty like here. I believe people will start hoarding there like here, and I don't believe Mexico has an adequate resupply system. As for the toilet paper for some reason people have hoarded and my son-in-law in Germany is using a spong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vetteforron Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 Isn't beef a commodity? Prices I know can vary from region to regions but, I thought commodities are about the same wherever. This is just a question I just am not an expert in this area other than eating to many BigMacs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 oh well we will eat chicken or fish or lamb or rabbit or carrots😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafterbr Posted March 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, vetteforron said: Isn't beef a commodity? Prices I know can vary from region to regions but, I thought commodities are about the same wherever. This is just a question I just am not an expert in this area other than eating to many BigMacs. Prices can vary widely within a region. Actually most of the calves in Oklahoma go to feedlots in Kansas, Nebraska and New Mexico. They are usually processed in the same states. Meat from there goes to New York, California, etc. In Oklahoma most of the grocery stores get boxed meat from Canada. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crynoutloud Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 My guess is with the restaurants closed down in the most populated states there will be a glut of beef in the supermarkets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibarra Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 I just left Soriana. Large signs near entrance by furniture store with limits for certain items. Hamburger - 4 packages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 The shortage of beef may be related to the current over surplus of dairy milk. In Mexico, as in the U.S. a dairy cow must produce at least one calf so it will produce milk. If that calf is a bull it is sold after weaning and after a few months they are shipped live to the huge U.S. feedlots. With the lower consumption and low prices for dairy milk maybe less cows are going in to "production". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafterbr Posted March 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 6 hours ago, crynoutloud said: My guess is with the restaurants closed down in the most populated states there will be a glut of beef in the supermarkets. You may be right but I have heard the government is planning a large beef buy. Again mainly hamburger meat. This is to feed the hungry school children who use to get free meals at the schools, homeless people and other low income or unemployed people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafterbr Posted March 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, CHILLIN said: The shortage of beef may be related to the current over surplus of dairy milk. In Mexico, as in the U.S. a dairy cow must produce at least one calf so it will produce milk. If that calf is a bull it is sold after weaning and after a few months they are shipped live to the huge U.S. feedlots. With the lower consumption and low prices for dairy milk maybe less cows are going in to "production". In the United States there are less cows now than there were 40 years ago. Most of our foreign markets have dried up is the only reason there is adequate beef for the states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 No doubt this has something to do with that: Quote USDA estimates 2011 U.S. per-capita beef consumption at 57.4 lbs., down 13% from 10 years ago, and down about 25% from 1980. USDA predicts Americans will eat 54.1 lbs. of beef on average in 2012. U.S. Beef Consumption In Decline | Beef Magazine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm1mex Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 Plenty of hamburger meat at Walmart. No problem. Get your package and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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