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A patient had the C.V. Tested negative,  2X before released.

Came back a few days later and tested positive.

Is it incorrect errors, or does survival develop some immunity or not?  Open question now.

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THE MEDIA’S FEAR VIRUS IS THE REAL DANGER NOT THE CORONAVIRUS

Published March 3, 2020 | By Dr. Jack Wheeler

I’d like to suggest considering the latest bulletin on Covid-19 from the New England Journal of Medicine:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387?query=RP

“On the basis of a case definition requiring a diagnosis of pneumonia, the currently reported case fatality rate is approximately 2%.4 In another article in the Journal, Guan et al.5 report mortality of 1.4% among 1099 patients with laboratory-confirmed Covid-19; these patients had a wide spectrum of disease severity. 

 

If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%).”

Almost all deaths attributed to Covid-19 are quite elderly, in their 70s and 80s/90s and/or with compromised immune systems.  There are no deaths reported among the young, i.e., under 15 years old.

Another consideration.  The genetic vector by which the virus infects the body is the ACE2 receptor gene that codes for an enzyme involved in constriction of the lungs.  As in all genes, there are slightly different variations or “polymorphisms.”  Turns out that ethnic Chinese have one producing more of the enzyme than any other ethnic group in the world.

Further, smoking tobacco greatly accelerates the enzyme’s lung constriction.  No people on the planet come close to Chinese men on how much they smoke cigarettes.  Which is one main reason why thousands of Chinese have died and not elsewhere, and many more Chinese men than women.  The same, albeit to a bit lesser degree, applies to South Koreans.

Bottom line is:  If you’re under 70 in good health, not Asian and don’t smoke, avoid being in an infected area and wash your hands if you are, you’re gonna live.  Oh, and for your mental well-being, ignore the media and TV news.

The media is far more dangerous than this latest flu virus.  Its principal product is no longer news but fear-mongering crises.

Franklin Roosevelt’s most famous quote, from his 1933 Inaugural Address, was: “We have nothing to fear but fear itself.”

Today that translates to, “We have nothing to fear but the media’s fear-mongering.”  We all need to vaccinate ourselves from the Media Fear Virus.

 

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Pretty sure Eric will be back shortly with more fear-mongering, but thank you for posting a more in-depth discussion of Covid-19 from a reputable source.

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Thank you Tomgates for posting.  Far more people in North America will die from seasonal flu... It"s just not news.

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1 hour ago, Mostlylost said:

It"s just not news.

Agree.    Unfortunately for some here, it appears to be a hobby / career.....maybe the Mods can create a new section just for a certain poster, to avoid so many people having to use the "ignore" button.    

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Greetings from Asian country!
I really like to believe in positive prophecies, too.

As national economies have been integrated into the world market
through globalization, new coronavirus incidents on opposite shores 
have begun to directly affect your lives, too I think.

as of Mach 2
the numbers of patients of new coronavirus:
Italy 1,694
Germany 131
France 130
Spain 83
Are these yellow or Asian countries?

I see some news medias and/or people have over reacted to the new virus.
But, why the stock markets reacted so badly recently?
D you see the defensive measures the countries and or people taken seems to be too much?

Of course the death # of flu in the States are greater.
The death # of traffic accidents are much more bigger.
The homicides number by narcos in Mexico is unbelievable.
It is a totally different subject.

The new coronavirus is very CONTAGIOUS. 

Please stay calm but do not underestimate.

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1 hour ago, Ukiyo said:

Please stay calm but do not underestimate.

Exactly. It is not to be dismissed or scoffed at, it's quite real and spreading quickly - awareness and precautions are the answer, not fear-mongering and panic. 

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19 hours ago, tomgates said:

THE MEDIA’S FEAR VIRUS IS THE REAL DANGER NOT THE CORONAVIRUS

Published March 3, 2020 | By Dr. Jack Wheeler

Bottom line is:  If you’re under 70 in good health, not Asian and don’t smoke, avoid being in an infected area and wash your hands if you are, you’re gonna live.  Oh, and for your mental well-being, ignore the media and TV news.

 

 

Whether smoking and gene of races are relevant to the virus is not medically proven yet. They are urban legends! 

The "New Coronavirus" as it indicate,is very new and we have not understood
the natures and are not ready for effective countermeasures yet.
No jump to the conclusion.

“libenter homines id quod volunt credunt”
Gaius Julius Caesar described  in the "Gallic War" 
in English, 
Men gladly believe that which they wish for.
People will see only what they want to see.

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My news feeds from Reuters this morning, are FULL of commentary about the coronavirus. However, THIS one is gallows humour at its best...

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Among public events to be canceled or postponed is the global release of Daniel Craig's last outing as James Bond. The world premiere of "No Time to Die", planned for March 31 in London, with 5,000 attendees, has now been postponed till November.

 

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Not a lot of us are under 70 and in good health. The mortality rate (WHO) for that group is about 8%.

The hospital facilities in Ajijic area are not prepared for a lot of older patients with pneumonia.  So I wouldn’t call it fear-mongering, precautions and probably, for those of us who are religious, prayers are in order.

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When we first started making others aware of this virus and exchanging information we got a backlash from those who didn’t want to talk about it. The seriousness of the situation is now becoming more apparent so what you said is absolutely correct except for the praying part. To each his own. 

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"The coronavirus fatality rate is more than 20 times the death rate of the seasonal flu, according to data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)—a stark measure of the dangers the novel coronavirus poses to the world’s population."

Source:  https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/03/05/coro-m05.html

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The acceleration rate of the contagion is exponential. The great danger is that few seem to understand exactly what that means, and how very dangerous it can become in a very short period of time. 

Watch out for that big snowball coming toward you !!!!

The known numbers are just the tip of the iceburg.

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Several weeks back I went out and purchased several months worth of non perishable foods because to me it was clear that there could be a serious issue in the near future. What caused my decision is the fact that China was locking down cities bigger then Guadalajara.....

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4 hours ago, AngusMactavish said:

"The coronavirus fatality rate is more than 20 times the death rate of the seasonal flu, according to data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)—a stark measure of the dangers the novel coronavirus poses to the world’s population."

Source:  https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/03/05/coro-m05.html

World Socialist Website. Few facts ..lots of supositions.. Surprised there were no Maduro quotes.

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3 minutes ago, Mostlylost said:

World Socialist Website. Few facts ..lots of supositions.. Surprised there were no Maduro quotes.

Don't be so stupid! The stats are from the CDC. There are "many fine folks on both sides" of the news business.

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1 hour ago, AngusMactavish said:

Don't be so stupid! The stats are from the CDC. There are "many fine folks on both sides" of the news business.

My comment remains factual.. Please do not call people on this web board names.  

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The majority of my information comes from the CDC site; the WHO site and the Mayo clinic site.

I put limited stock into what the news reports say, unless they are quoting one of the above. 

I have a vested interest in getting authoritative information since I will be 81 in May. IMO, better to be over-prepared than under-prepared.  

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43 minutes ago, AngusMactavish said:

626843

 Unable to have a serious discussion so you result to name calling.  

Please do not make personal insults on this web board. 

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