Ferret Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 You must have a reservation to attend but it is free at the Danza del Sol... Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday of this coming week... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 I think I will go and courteously ask about double-blind research studies.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted February 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 6 hours ago, RickS said: I think I will go and courteously ask about double-blind research studies.... You will only get to read this link ONCE and then you will be locked out... About half of FDA expedited approvals lack double-blind trials | Federal Practitioner The following links show that even some double blind studies still result in the drugs being recalled https://www.uspharmacist.com/article/overview-of-the-fdas-drugrecall-process https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_withdrawn_drugs The research on cannabis and/or CBD is in its infancy especially in the U.S. (for obvious reasons) If you're looking for studies look to other countries like Israel or Spain. We are all unique. What suits one doesn't suit another. But, that doesn't mean that you ever give up. Each to his/her own. Â 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted February 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 Excellent presentation and very informative for anyone who is on the fence about what cannabinoids can do for you. Yes, the hosts (not the presenters) do have a CBD product available but is only mentioned in the last 5 minutes of the talk. The product is made in Colorado and it is third party tested and the certificate of analysis is available on their website. The SPEAKERSÂ themselves did not promote any product... just the facts of both THC and CBD and what they can do for the body. I thoroughly enjoyed it. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 It seems only months ago that people were sing the the virtues of Opidos....and now we realize the terrible consequences of that must have drug 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 I must have missed that song.... Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshineyday? Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 So! Is it available locally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 56 minutes ago, Sunshineyday? said: So! Is it available locally? The post above says yes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringohombre Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 40 minutes ago, RickS said: The post above says yes... Where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 18 hours ago, Ferret said: snip.... Yes, the hosts (not the presenters) do have a CBD product available but is only mentioned in the last 5 minutes of the talk. The product is made in Colorado and it is third party tested and the certificate of analysis is available on their website. snip I interpret the above to indicate that the host is 'local' and they have product available.... Â YMMV Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted February 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 Well, I wouldn't be able to ferret out information if I didn't have all the facts. Sigh. I think their website needs a little work. Mexican web site: https://www.elixinol.mx American website: https://www.elixinol.com/ So, the product that they have available is called Elixinol and it is available in Guadalajara but is produced in Colorado. Contact Sales Person is Maria Martinez and her cell phone is 333-119-5145 (the four may be a 7 sorry, her writing is not clear) I went to the website to see if I could find their certificate of analysis but found that I needed to have purchased the product to get the lot number to find out the analysis. Talk about a$$ backwards. Duh, I want to know what I'm buying BEFORE I buy. They show a photo of where to find the lot number and I plugged in that one. It showed contents for gel caps but I sure didn't see anything full spectrum about it. I'm not saying its NOT full spectrum but wonder why the actual results are not shown. As for comparing costs, I'll let you do your own math... there are 20 drops in a ml... concentration is given and the number of ml. per bottle. You are going to calculate what is the concentration PER DROP. Personally, I like to take a higher concentration per drop so there's less to take each time. YMMV. You can also calculate your COST per drop. This is general dosing chart to START with:.... start low and go slow. Here are THREE links to pdf's showing certificates of analysis from three different companies. I chose NuLeaf because I can see that it's full spectrum with other cannabinoids besides CBD and also terpenes which can greatly influence how the product will affect you. Please do your own research and if you come across a word that you don't understand, google it. It's your health and you'll get out of it what you put into it. https://nuleafnaturals.com/product/1450mg-full-spectrum-cbd-oil-high-grade-hemp-extract/ https://www.elixinol.com/batch-tests https://www.cbdpure.com/lab-test-results/      1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tingting Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 Tks so much, Ferret, for posting all of this. While I know almost zilch about all of this (courtesy of miseducation), at least there are now a couple of places to start...very, very fascinating! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringohombre Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 I am mostly interested in it for my dog, Minnie, who has an arthritic condition in her back legs. She is mid-size, about 20 kilos. Any comments on dosage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted February 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Start with one drop. I started putting one drop on a piece of kibble and letting it soak in before I gave it to each of my girls as a treat. My girls weigh 23 kilos and 27 kilos respectively and they are 6 and 8 years old. The six year old has two bone spurs in her back and the eight year old is half Shepherd. You know that bouncy gait that puppies have? Kinda like they've got springs in their paws? That's my girls now. We all take 3 drops each at 6 am and at 6 pm. Theirs is going through the alimentary canal so they're actually getting less than myself who is taking it sublingually. Dr. Baron (vet in Guadalajara) recommends the dosage on the gums between cheek and jowel IF possible. I think that would only be possible with a very passive (read sick) dog. YMMV. For very small dogs, you would purchase a lower dosage bottle because it's hard to cut a drop in half. Observe over 5 days and adjust dosage accordingly. Â Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alli Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 On 2/10/2020 at 4:01 PM, lakeside7 said: It seems only months ago that people were sing the the virtues of Opidos....and now we realize the terrible consequences of that must have drug I was prescribed opioids (30 years ago) and had to be "weaned" from that poison by a professional. In the US I lived in a state where medical marijuana was an option. I have used medical grade CBD off and on for four years and it's amazing. I took it in the morning and could work all day and function without feeling high. It helps people with chronic pain, anxiety and much more. Big Pharma products scare me much more than products derived from marijuana -- been there, done that!  2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonCBDAjijic Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 8:28 AM, Sunshineyday? said: So! Is it available locally? Â Yes it is Locally Avaible, just text this guys: noel.inuyasha.rivera@icloud.com or 3332301489 They have been working a few years around here, their product is Great Quality and show u the quality certification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted February 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 And where is the quality/concentration testing done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonCBDAjijic Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, Ferret said: And where is the quality/concentration testing done? Guadalajara, Test of the Final Product of the Oil. Blessings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rony Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 6:21 PM, Ferret said: Start with one drop. I started putting one drop on a piece of kibble and letting it soak in before I gave it to each of my girls as a treat. My girls weigh 23 kilos and 27 kilos respectively and they are 6 and 8 years old. The six year old has two bone spurs in her back and the eight year old is half Shepherd. You know that bouncy gait that puppies have? Kinda like they've got springs in their paws? That's my girls now. We all take 3 drops each at 6 am and at 6 pm. Theirs is going through the alimentary canal so they're actually getting less than myself who is taking it sublingually. Dr. Baron (vet in Guadalajara) recommends the dosage on the gums between cheek and jowel IF possible. I think that would only be possible with a very passive (read sick) dog. YMMV. For very small dogs, you would purchase a lower dosage bottle because it's hard to cut a drop in half. Observe over 5 days and adjust dosage accordingly.   it also depends on the strength of the CBD. A couple of months ago, Virginia ( 8 kilo dog ) took 10 drops a day, without any problem. If you add it to food, it lasts longer. Directly in the mouth ( under tongue) works faster, but not as long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted February 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 Absolutely Rony. But if you add it to their food, the actual concentration is much depleted by the time it finally gets absorbed by the intestines and gets into the blood stream. That's why it's important to really know what the concentration is per drop from an accredited third party testing facility. 38 minutes ago, LeonCBDAjijic said: Guadalajara, Test of the Final Product of the Oil. Blessings Yet you don't tell us the name of the accredited lab or post the certificate of analysis?  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted February 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 On another note, has anyone who bought Elixinol at the "talk" had any success getting the certificate of analysis by putting in the lot number of their product into either the Mexican OR the U.S. websites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonCBDAjijic Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Ferret said: Absolutely Rony. But if you add it to their food, the actual concentration is much depleted by the time it finally gets absorbed by the intestines and gets into the blood stream. That's why it's important to really know what the concentration is per drop from an accredited third party testing facility. Yet you don't tell us the name of the accredited lab or post the certificate of analysis?  Ill send it PM for the ones interested about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rony Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, LeonCBDAjijic said: Ill send it PM for the ones interested about. yes, please.  Thks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted February 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 You can also send it to me via pm. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudgirl Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 4:54 PM, LeonCBDAjijic said: Ill send it PM for the ones interested about. What's the big secret? If I were trying to promote a product, I'd be publicly forthcoming about the information. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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