Mainecoons Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Finally someone is cracking down on these abusive airlines. https://elpais.com/economia/2017/06/27/actualidad/1498583497_651158.html?fbclid=IwAR1cf9uSeG0ZAoq8wuZ5qJntdkMbeQh0yHw84dRQ8puC8VzH4HvEN1d8sj4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bournemouth Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 The article is dated 2017 - it would seem that perhaps not much has happened in the meantime? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted December 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Whoops. Was just posted on Facebook. Wonder what happened? Badly needed, that is for sure. Flying really sucks these days, these airlines know they can abuse you with few limits since there is no other way to travel long distances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 32 minutes ago, Mainecoons said: Whoops. Was just posted on Facebook. Wonder what happened? Badly needed, that is for sure. Flying really sucks these days, these airlines know they can abuse you with few limits since there is no other way to travel long distances. Travel long distances other ways? Well, not as speedily, but somehow most of our ancestors made it to the shores of this continent from elsewhere. I wouldn't mind good train transportation like in the old days when it was slower paced, but much more relaxing...and the food was better! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Do you think that a lot of non native American ancestry arrived by ships at sea ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 11 hours ago, slainte39 said: Do you think that a lot of non native American ancestry arrived by ships at sea ? You THINK?? Mine did, for sure. Did yours swim?😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVGRINGO Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 How many generations does it take to make one a "native"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 39 minutes ago, RVGRINGO said: How many generations does it take to make one a "native"? Unless anyone wants to pick nits, it appears that it's anyone who was already here when the first batch of Europeans arrived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Th Quote The good old days of train travelling are over. There are a few luxury trains where you can still do it but those are tourist trains.. the rest have snack bars and pretty lousy food. I travelled overnight in France last year and the times where you would be served a nice dejeuner are over.. It is snack bar food period.. I miss the good old days.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVGRINGO Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 Yes! I still recall a pullman trip halfway across the USA, with comfortable seats, doilies on the headrests, efficient porters and the luxurious dining car, with full linens, silverware and rather elegant service. At night, our cabin was converted for sleeping and the crisp linens turned down. It was 1942. I have only had a few train trips since then, and they were not memorable, but at five I was probably more impressionable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 In the 6'´s they still had trains woth little lampswith lamp shafdes in England and dining car n the 70´s between Birmongham and New York but in the last 20 years I havenot seen a decent dining car or private travelling quater with bed and bathroom..I have been in the couchettes where you can sleep but you are piled up like sardines and the dining cars have been replaced by snack bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 I had really hoped that by 2020, we would all just get "beamed" wherever we wanted to go. Things are going backwards instead of forwards. Travel, these days, sucks. BIGLY. edited to add: just read this about overnight train travel in Europe. THIS is a backwards motion that I am for... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/the-nightjet-a-train-companys-big-bet-on-travelers-who-take-it-slow/ar-BBYhpSv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Just think how the trains ruined everything. Remember it was a full days journey by carriage to Chapala from Guadalajara. You could enjoy the countryside. Then came the train and it was only 2 hours. Awful... Oh wait... Better yet our Aztec ancestors say the Spanish ruined everything with their horses and carriages. Better to make the journey by foot. Camp at night, cook a couple of the chihuahuas for dinner, sleep under the stars. Those were the days we all miss....... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVGRINGO Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 One of my most enjoyable trips was from Old Forge, NY to Saranac Lake, NY, and I had to paddle most of the way, and carry for some of the way. It took a whole week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappysmarket Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, RVGRINGO said: One of my most enjoyable trips was from Old Forge, NY to Saranac Lake, NY, and I had to paddle most of the way, and carry for some of the way. It took a whole week. RV, I have a cousin who lives in Saranac Lake...full time no less. The Adirondacks are God's country but way too cold in the winter for us. My grandfather lived in Hoffmeister, NY, ahem, a SMALL community. He was the Postmaster, Justice of the Peace and Game Warden. How were the black flies on your trip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Liana Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 In 1982, I traveled by Élite bus from home (Tijuana) to Nogales, México, by train from Nogales to Guadalajara, and by second class bus from Guadalajara to Uruapan. When we arrived in Uruapan--at about 2AM--we had to sit in the bus station and wait for the first bus out to our final destination, Tancítaro, Michoacán. The 26 kilometer bus trip from Uruapan to Tancítaro took 3 hours on an unpaved switchback-heavy road up the mountain--and the total time for the entire trip was 52 hours. I loved every minute of it, including the women who climbed on board the train in the stations to sell home-made food, the teenagers selling candy, the men selling soft drinks. It was an overnight trip on the train and we didn't have sleepers, but we didn't care at all. We were traveling and having a marvelous time. For me, those were indeed the good old days. But you know what? These days now are also the good old days. Feliz Navidad, group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVGRINGO Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 Woodsman's Fly Dope seemed to keep the blackflies at bay, Pappy. I don't recall suffering from them too much. I have actually made that 80 mile paddle up the Fulton Lakes Chain a few times. It was beautiful. Unfortunately, the Interstate 87 gave access to the Adirondacks to city people, who arrived with guns for protection, and proceeded to destroy the trails and lean-to shelters for firewood. Many got lost and some died. Few realized that hiking in sneakers and shorts was not a good idea. Forest rangers had to close some trails, alternate others, and were forced to eliminate many shelters entirely. I left the area in the 1960's, but still have a few friends & family "up north". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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