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1 hour ago, kam said:

Darn steep at the top and we are not discussing effort but ability. 

I SAID "could present problems for some". I am a very old guy with a badly damaged hip due to a botched surgery here and sometimes use a cane. Both times there I made it to the top OK with no cane but with A LITTLE EFFORT. JEEZE...please give us old geezers a A+ for EFFORT. 

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