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40 minutes ago, Mrs. Rupert said:

Jreboll-  You live in or around Ajijic.  Live with the Mexicans and find out what real terror is.  Cartels and angry people deciding who should live, and who should die.  You have no idea the amount of homicides that happen every day- every day- every day.

I do live with Mexicans in Jiquilpan, Mich.  I rarely see a gringo there. 

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3 hours ago, Mrs. Rupert said:

Jreboll-  You live in or around Ajijic.  Live with the Mexicans and find out what real terror is.  Cartels and angry people deciding who should live, and who should die.  You have no idea the amount of homicides that happen every day- every day- every day.

 

On 10/21/2019 at 9:06 AM, Mrs. Rupert said:

  Mexico is not PARADISE for all.  The citizens are poorly treated and poorly looked after, and the crime is much worse than the States. 

You simply state  hasty generalizations as facts that everyone is affected all of the time but this in not true. Try to zone in on what you say and give us a detail or two to support your extremely negative views. OK?

I think you are exaggerating things far to much to be believable. Personally I don't see it that way at all. I have to wonder why you do?

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13 hours ago, Mrs. Rupert said:

Jreboll-  You live in or around Ajijic.  Live with the Mexicans and find out what real terror is.  Cartels and angry people deciding who should live, and who should die.  You have no idea the amount of homicides that happen every day- every day- every day.

My whole family are Mexican citizens and you couldn´t be more wrong even if someone put a gun to your head and told you to be.  They mostly live in  GDL and the surrounding area and work. go to school, enjoy activities and friends, play, and live normal lives. None are associated with or have any contact with the drug people, so aren´t living in this so-called "real terror" you are describing that Mexicans are living with.  I´m talking about several hundred people including las familias de mis consuegros. The most contact I have with foreigners is on this board and that is why I participate.

I have never read a more absurd post on this forum.   :angry:    ¡ Yo podría a comer clavos cuando leo cosas como este !

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They don't live where el chapo's son was.  And there is killing in Guadalajara as well.  This is not a nation that takes care of its' peoples'  problems.  There are crimes, murders, bribery and more that are common every day.  It may be paradise for expats and Mexican citizens who have the where-with-all to stay out of harm's way, but this is no country for the faint of heart, slainte39.  The poor people are passed over, and their faces show their plight.

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I can most definitely think of other nations that don't take care of their poor either. It doesn't matter where you live in this world, there is a seedy side to every community. If you are unfortunate enough to live in those areas, then crime and its consequences are a way of life.

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Do you ever read the number of homicides every week in Chicago?  The thousands of homeless in Los Angeles would love to enjoy your lifestyle here in mexico

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I believe everyone is looking for the negative in other's post, it is so much fun to pull the lives and postings apart. However, you all miss the first sentence, "It has been one of those rare day's when everything has gone like clockwork, ". This is not something one appreciates only in Mexico, it is anywhere we happen to be when all works well. How we do appreciate it when we are able to finish our "to do" list, it is an accomplishment which gives us a feeling of well being. Stop looking for people who are knocking Mexico and start seeing the positive. The person is happy he as able to get everything done so easily. Be kind, be happy.

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A rare positive day at lakeside for me is when my car is moving on Lopez Mateo Sur faster than I can walk. 🚑🚒🚔🚗🚓🚕

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4 hours ago, Mrs. Rupert said:

They don't live where el chapo's son was.  And there is killing in Guadalajara as well.  This is not a nation that takes care of its' peoples'  problems.  There are crimes, murders, bribery and more that are common every day.  It may be paradise for expats and Mexican citizens who have the where-with-all to stay out of harm's way, but this is no country for the faint of heart, slainte39.  The poor people are passed over, and their faces show their plight.

You are delusional beyond what I would consider safe to be associated with. Don't leave your house is my advice. Call someone to bring you your groceries. 😁

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4 hours ago, Mrs. Rupert said:

They don't live where el chapo's son was.  And there is killing in Guadalajara as well.  This is not a nation that takes care of its' peoples'  problems.  There are crimes, murders, bribery and more that are common every day.  It may be paradise for expats and Mexican citizens who have the where-with-all to stay out of harm's way, but this is no country for the faint of heart, slainte39.  The poor people are passed over, and their faces show their plight.

I am curious, Mrs. R, which countries do you recommend for the faint of heart? 

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Oh, Alan Mexicali- you do not understand what I am talking about.  Mexico is not a safe nation for the nationals.  Why do the expats and well-off Mexican citizens continue to wear blinders.  We are not in danger, but the Mexicans are.  You are not aware of what is happening in Guadalajara, Mexico City, and all of Mexico?  Start reading the newspapers.  The living conditions for the public are very bad.  They have no retirement plan.  This country is worse than the United States.  Most of us are here to take advantage of the much lower cost of living.  The taxes are minimal, and the citizens Of Mexico get very little.  You must tell me what you think is so great about Mexico.  Happy people, cheap cost of living, murders daily,  the plight of the peasants, horrible health care, starving children, abused animals, corrupt politicians, bribery beyond our understanding, etc.  You probably live here because the cost of living is so low, or you a Mexican citizen.  This is no paradise.  Open your eyes

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Xena, I have no idea, but this is not a paradise.  It is a third world country that offers the citizens very little, very little.  We are here because of the very low cost of living.  We live in a Mexican neighborhood.  It is not an ideal environment- but, it is the real Mexico.  Ajijic itself is filthy- how disgusting.  Why?  

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8 minutes ago, Mrs. Rupert said:

Oh, Alan Mexicali- you do not understand what I am talking about.  Mexico is not a safe nation for the nationals.  Why do the expats and well-off Mexican citizens continue to wear blinders.  We are not in danger, but the Mexicans are.  You are not aware of what is happening in Guadalajara, Mexico City, and all of Mexico?  Start reading the newspapers.  The living conditions for the public are very bad.  They have no retirement plan.  This country is worse than the United States.  Most of us are here to take advantage of the much lower cost of living.  The taxes are minimal, and the citizens Of Mexico get very little.  You must tell me what you think is so great about Mexico.  Happy people, cheap cost of living, murders daily,  the plight of the peasants, horrible health care, starving children, abused animals, corrupt politicians, bribery beyond our understanding, etc.  You probably live here because the cost of living is so low, or you a Mexican citizen.  This is no paradise.  Open your eyes

Very sad to hear you feel that way .  Obviously you are very unhappy living in Mexico . 

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On 10/18/2019 at 4:15 PM, lakeside7 said:

Wow I am completely blind sided........I thought a shared a story of places and people who provided great service and reasonable prices and quick service....

Perhaps you folks who are so quick to jump down my throat  should be looking in the mirror when you get up in the morning a see the ugly reflection

I agree.

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1 hour ago, Mrs. Rupert said:

Oh, Alan Mexicali- you do not understand what I am talking about.  Mexico is not a safe nation for the nationals.  Why do the expats and well-off Mexican citizens continue to wear blinders.  We are not in danger, but the Mexicans are.  You are not aware of what is happening in Guadalajara, Mexico City, and all of Mexico?  Start reading the newspapers.  The living conditions for the public are very bad.  They have no retirement plan.  This country is worse than the United States.  Most of us are here to take advantage of the much lower cost of living.  The taxes are minimal, and the citizens Of Mexico get very little.  You must tell me what you think is so great about Mexico.  Happy people, cheap cost of living, murders daily,  the plight of the peasants, horrible health care, starving children, abused animals, corrupt politicians, bribery beyond our understanding, etc.  You probably live here because the cost of living is so low, or you a Mexican citizen.  This is no paradise.  Open your eyes

I am married to a Mexican citizen and we have an extended family in Mexico.  What you have missed is the people may be poor but they enjoy a degree of freedom which is worth more than money or gold to most people.  I have traveled all over the world and there are many, many countries where the people live in poverty and have no freedom of choice.  Here I see the children laughing and playing in school and when I smile and say "hola" to someone my greeting is answered with a smile.  When I shop, people try to be helpful and give me good advise.  I see people trying to get ahead and here in Mexico they have a chance. More and more educational opportunities are  being offered the students.   My stepson has graduated with a Masters from the University of Mexico which has over 150,000 students.  He has received a fellowship from Germany to work on his Doctorate in Chemical Biology.  He is working on a project on aging which will hopefully help all of us live longer.  Mexico is an up in coming country which education and modernization which will help it get past its drug related past.

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Mexico has not been a third world country for a long time.  It is a NIC.  Sorry if that causes any expats some cognitive dissonance.  Mexicans are resilient, they will survive and thrive.

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2 hours ago, Mrs. Rupert said:

Xena, I have no idea, but this is not a paradise.  It is a third world country that offers the citizens very little, very little.  We are here because of the very low cost of living.  We live in a Mexican neighborhood.  It is not an ideal environment- but, it is the real Mexico.  Ajijic itself is filthy- how disgusting.  Why?  

Come on, Mrs. R. If you know that this country is not for the faint of heart you must know at least one country that is.

I do not know why you seem to be obsessed with Mexico not being a paradise. Did you think it was one when you moved here? I came here with my eyes (and heart) wide open.  It is unfortunate that you can not afford to live in a place more suited to you, one where you are not blinded to its beauty, rich culture, wonderful people, and everyday joy. Everyday must be difficult and painful for you. I hope one day you can afford to leave here and move on to a place that does not create such fear and depression in you. 

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14 hours ago, Mrs. Rupert said:

They don't live where el chapo's son was. 

No they don´t and you didn´t specify that in your diatribe of how awful it is, but generalized La Raza y La Republica.  Now you are back pedaling to exempt foreigners and "rich" Mexicans.

I can only assume that you must be in some form of incarceration to have this extremely negative perception of this country and the people or something even worse? affecting your thinking.  I live here because I love my family and the country, not because I live "cheap".  All I need  is food, clothing, and shelter, and it can be minimal. Aire es gratis.

You seem to be hung up on cheap so maybe that´s "your problem".

 

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Mrs. Rupert, not all of us expats are here to take advantage of living in the cheap and poor country of México.  In fact, what makes you think México is so cheap, the houses here cost about what they cost in North Carolina, from where I´m from, and with a lot more maintenance required yearly and far less acreage or property included.  A decent home there will cost you around 100,000 dollars with a good size yard, you can even find older homes selling for 50 to 60 thousand in the country with a real good sized yard.  A nice home will cost you 200 thousand and up.  Kind of sounds like here almost but with far smaller yards.  Gas here is more expensive, electricity is far more expensive.  Fruit and veggies and day to day living is much cheaper although.  All and all we live cheaper here, I must admit.  But México ain't that much cheaper than rural America.  If you want cheap, expats should move to Guatemala or Nicaragua.  I, along with many other expats live here in Lago de Chapala because we love the weather, the people are awesome, the scenery is gorgeous, and life is more exotic, stimulating and adventurous.  And I love living in a relatively small town (Chapala) where I can walk everywhere and shop at small mom and pop stores and get to really know my neighbors and the people on the street.  Something, that is becoming more ever so difficult to do in the US of A.  I speak fluent Spanish since I was 18, I speak to the locals and I travel all over the country.  I don´t get this negative vibe that you do that Mexicans are all living in fear and they are all being neglected and abused by their government.  Sure, life in a developing country (note, I said developing, not 3rd world like perhaps Central American countries) is more challenging in some ways and not always as picture perfect and wonderful as American suburban life.  Paradises do not exist, life in México is certainly not perfect but for me, I love it here as do so many other people.  There are certainly places in México that may add up to what you are describing for the whole country, but they are a small minority of places.  Even in the terrible, frightful , horrible city of Culiacán, if you were living there, it would not seem so terrible and dangerous once you get adjusted, it would seem like any normal city, with bouts of violence flaring up every now and then, but on the whole, just a normal city with just normal happy people going about their daily life.  And of course, like always, there will be some people that were touched by violence that may be living in fear, but they would certainly not be the majority and certainly not the majority of Mexicans feel that way.  If they did, Mexican immigration to the USA would be up, but as we all know, it is down down down.  México is slowly turning into a middle class society and most Mexicans have lost the need to sneak across the border.  Most Spanish speaking immigrants to the US now are not Mexicans but Salvadoreños, Nicaraguenses, Hondureños and Guatemaltecos.  Oh my gosh, Mrs. Rupert, you aren't describing México at all, I think you were describing Honduras, now that is a country that would come closer to your description of a dangerous country with much of its population hovering in fear and feeling abandoned by their government and living lives surrounded by poverty and horrendous daily bouts of violence.

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If you don't recognize and accept that whatever you expect to happen likely won't, here, then Mexico isn't for you. Enjoying the uncertainty is the key. Nothing goes exactly as you planned. Live with it.

 

We are very lucky here that the authorities have always maintained an understanding with the underworld of protecting  the elderly. Therefore, much going on doesn't affect us.

 

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20 hours ago, HarryB said:

If you don't recognize and accept that whatever you expect to happen likely won't, here, then Mexico isn't for you. Enjoying the uncertainty is the key. Nothing goes exactly as you planned. Live with it.

THIS is why I love Mexico. I love the uncertainty and the ever changing life it provides. I'm not an overly social person, I'm not into supper clubs and over priced designer meals, but I love to take a drive around the area and see everything new and the old, too. Seeing an old man herd cows up a concrete stairway, have someone driving up the road backwards (no day is complete without at least one backwards driver!), businesses that have closed and new ones taking their place, cars parked willy-nilly and lake sized baches. 

Life is never dull here and is best experienced with all senses sharp and alert. Life NOB is dull by comparison, with neighborhoods of cookie-cutter houses and neatly trimmed, but useless lawns. That's paradise for some, but I say, "Viva Mexico!".

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