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"Illegal" i too strong a word, but using "against the federal hygiene law" takes too much space.

I went to WalMart today to buy a bra.  I grabbed a few hangers and went to try them on.  The woman at the changing room pointed to a sign that basically said  in Spanish "no trying on undergarments allowed".  I took this to mean, no panties, like in the USA.  She said no, cannot even try on bras.  I asked: okay, how about over my tee shirt?  She said, no, you can't take it off the hanger to try it on. 

I asked her, how do Mexican women buy bras?  She said they go by the size on the tag.  I explained that each style and size vary by manufacturer and fit.  So that means a lot of Mexican women must have a lot of money to buy lots of bras that may or may not fit.  [Obviously she didn't see the irony of what I was saying].

Is this true?  Can Sonia or someone else attest to this?  If it isn't true, where can I try on bras?  BTW as I write this I do remember trying on sports bras one time in Liverpool.....

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, kimanjome said:

"Illegal" i too strong a word, but using "against the federal hygiene law" takes too much space.

I went to WalMart today to buy a bra.  I grabbed a few hangers and went to try them on.  The woman at the changing room pointed to a sign that basically said  in Spanish "no trying on undergarments allowed".  I took this to mean, no panties, like in the USA.  She said no, cannot even try on bras.  I asked: okay, how about over my tee shirt?  She said, no, you can't take it off the hanger to try it on. 

I asked her, how do Mexican women buy bras?  She said they go by the size on the tag.  I explained that each style and size vary by manufacturer and fit.  So that means a lot of Mexican women must have a lot of money to buy lots of bras that may or may not fit.  [Obviously she didn't see the irony of what I was saying].

Is this true?  Can Sonia or someone else attest to this?  If it isn't true, where can I try on bras?  BTW as I write this I do remember trying on sports bras one time in Liverpool.....

 

 

 

I have tried on bras in several stores in Mexico. That's nonsense that it's illegal.

 

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I always try the bras before I buy them .. I usually buy them at Liverpool and I have never been told anything.. Walmart is fill of BS..

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Liverpool let me try before buying. Not only that, they have a person who takes a gander at your boobs and comes back with what is likely to be a good fit.  That's service.  I gave up on Walmart.

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yes i knew they dont want you to try them on but we go to walmart so early and i said to myself I'm trying this on whether they like it or not.   I grabbed 3 boxes, went to try them on cuz no one is ever attending that early in the morning.  I did buy them.  Yes that is crazy.  Our boobs are just all different.....I dont think they will wrestle you to the ground and grab your bra!!!  The law says stop at red lights, they run them while the gringos stop.  The law says get a drivers license, we have many mexican friends who have never had one.  The law says pay your property taxes, many of our mexican friends dont even know what that is.  Now if they ignore those laws, trying on your bra to make sure it is a good fit is WAY more important that those laws......lol.....

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My wife says that the stores that sell "cheaper" bras don't allow, but the expensive stores do.

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33 minutes ago, sputnik said:

yes i knew they dont want you to try them on but we go to walmart so early and i said to myself I'm trying this on whether they like it or not.   I grabbed 3 boxes, went to try them on cuz no one is ever attending that early in the morning.  I did buy them.  Yes that is crazy.  Our boobs are just all different.....I dont think they will wrestle you to the ground and grab your bra!!!  The law says stop at red lights, they run them while the gringos stop.  The law says get a drivers license, we have many mexican friends who have never had one.  The law says pay your property taxes, many of our mexican friends dont even know what that is.  Now if they ignore those laws, trying on your bra to make sure it is a good fit is WAY more important that those laws......lol.....

We are such a miserable country of miscreants, aren´t we.  A lot of us (Mexicans) stand in line for hours at 5 different locations in Guadalajara to get or keep our driver´s license or stand in line to pay the predial every year.  I don´t know hardly anyone who isn´t Mexican and I don´t have many friends or relatives that fit your descriptive mode.

Many Mexican property owners don´t know what predial is???...…..hard to believe!!!!

"they run them while the gringos stop"...…...Boy!!!....what did we do to deserve this angelic wave of immigration?

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 I tried to buy a sports bra in Walmart after some surgery but they would not let me try it on so I went over to the sports store in Laguna Plaza and they gladly let me try it on.   It’s a good thing because the one that I thought would fit me was too tight so I had to buy a larger one. Happy face. 🤣

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1 hour ago, sputnik said:

yes i knew they dont want you to try them on but we go to walmart so early and i said to myself I'm trying this on whether they like it or not.   I grabbed 3 boxes, went to try them on cuz no one is ever attending that early in the morning.  I did buy them.  Yes that is crazy.  Our boobs are just all different.....I dont think they will wrestle you to the ground and grab your bra!!!  The law says stop at red lights, they run them while the gringos stop.  The law says get a drivers license, we have many mexican friends who have never had one.  The law says pay your property taxes, many of our mexican friends dont even know what that is.  Now if they ignore those laws, trying on your bra to make sure it is a good fit is WAY more important that those laws......lol.....

Yes, I stopped at a red light and got rear ended. The authorities couldn't care less about the pick up truck that left me for dead as my March got shot 100 feet forward,. I managed to get the plate info but it was of no concern. The irony is that I had to pay for the repair and medical bills.

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Liverpool or Sears. Walmart is the only place I have found that won't let you try them on.

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Versatile thread.

What started out as a "Perfectly good reason to bash Walmart, they suck" thread began morphing into a "Wow, there are quite a few foreigners living here who are ignorant about Mexicans, possibly predjudiced, and even rascist". Then it starts drifting back to "Why Walmart is uniquely terrible".

All in under 10 posts! Impressive! 😄

 

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I was fine with the bra thing and protesting, bashing Walmart, but then it turned to the logic for the same, was that Mexico is just brim full of lawbreakers of every stripe and this was the logic for objecting to not being able to try on a bra, whether it be store policy or law.  Personally, I don´t care about the OP topic but I do care when I think someone is bashing the country and the people I am a part of.

You don´t go to someone´s house and start running down their family.

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10 hours ago, slainte39 said:

We are such a miserable country of miscreants, aren´t we.  A lot of us (Mexicans) stand in line for hours at 5 different locations in Guadalajara to get or keep our driver´s license or stand in line to pay the predial every year.  I don´t know hardly anyone who isn´t Mexican and I don´t have many friends or relatives that fit your descriptive mode.

Many Mexican property owners don´t know what predial is???...…..hard to believe!!!!

"they run them while the gringos stop"...…...Boy!!!....what did we do to deserve this angelic wave of immigration?

Oh please dont misunderstand my post.  I absolutely LOVE this country and the MEXICAN mindset.  The gringos might not appreciate this but I didnt explain I was just trying to be funny.  I think all the rules in the U.S. are insane.  That is why I love this country and the culture.  Many run the red lights because it is early in the morning and no one is coming. I see NO problem with that!!  If there is an accident, people take responsibility usually.  It teaches people to own up to their mistakes.  When there are many many laws in a country I feel that people tend to blame others.  Then the law suits come.  I also dont agree with property taxes.  Paying them means you never really own your home.  You are paying rent.  In the U.S. we paid $4000 a year so at least here it is so much better.  And NO, many gringos are FAR from angels in fact we are getting out of our current neighborhood and moving to Chapala where all are dear Mexican friends live because we are so tired of many of the gringos trying to change this area to be more like the U.S.with all its laws.  Please forgive me for giving the total wrong impression!!  I am a "guest" in your wonderful country, and am so sorry that in trying to be funny about trying on a bra i gave the wrong impression.

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My wife was able to try on bras at Wally World... She did note that the assistant was reading a book...(shocking!)...

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Sputnik you were not funny and you were the worse offender. We were talking about bras nothing else.. You are a gringo , like it or not and , Mexicans are people like all of us no pont tellng ust how wonderful they are. Some are good and some are bad.. that is realty all over the world.. You are being very paternalistic another way of being a racist and looking down on people and you do not even realize it. 

The bra thing is obviously a store policy and has nothng to do with the law.. 

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1 hour ago, bmh said:

Sputnik you were not funny and you were the worse offender. We were talking about bras nothing else.. You are a gringo , like it or not and , Mexicans are people like all of us no pont tellng ust how wonderful they are. Some are good and some are bad.. that is realty all over the world.. You are being very paternalistic another way of being a racist and looking down on people and you do not even realize it. 

The bra thing is obviously a store policy and has nothng to do with the law.. 

yes, you are right.  It was bad judgement on my part to try to be funny.  I have looked at it and i dont feel that i am paternalistic or a racist.  My children are adopted, one black and one hispanic and i dont think i have ever felt superior to anyone..  But thank you for your observations  I want to be humble and really listen to your view about me because that is how we grow as a person.

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you are paternalistic when  speaking about Mexicans and that s a form or racism..more positive than the ugly one but it grates on my nerves big time.. I am Frenc and when I go to the  French forum I hear the same BS... oh the French are so happy they know how to enjoy life and on and on..it is all paternalistic  and offensive. people are people no matter what their culture or nationality.. nothing is perfect in any culture. You may not realize it but all these generalizing statements are a sign that you hav no clue about the culture and its people .

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1 minute ago, bmh said:

you are paternalistic when  speaking about Mexicans and that s a form or racism..more positive than the ugly one but it grates on my nerves big time.. I am Frenc and when I go to the  French forum I hear the same BS... oh the French are so happy they know how to enjoy life and on and on..it is all paternalistic  and offensive. people are people no matter what their culture or nationality.. nothing is perfect in any culture. You may not realize it but all these generalizing statements are a sign that you hav no clue about the culture and its people .

You say i have no clue about the culture or the people.  You dont even know me.  You only know a few sentences that I posted.  I know there are good and bad in every culture. Can you not be so quick to judge others and their motives based on a post?  I feel that lacks mercy towards our fellow man.  Its ok to say the French people are a wonderful people. Or Americans are a wonderful people.  I realize there are bad people in every culture.  That goes without saying.

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31 minutes ago, sputnik said:

You say i have no clue about the culture or the people.  You dont even know me.  You only know a few sentences that I posted.  I know there are good and bad in every culture. Can you not be so quick to judge others and their motives based on a post?  I feel that lacks mercy towards our fellow man.  Its ok to say the French people are a wonderful people. Or Americans are a wonderful people.  I realize there are bad people in every culture.  That goes without saying.

If one were to go by painting the persons in the french culture by pop discourse,one would come to the conclusion that they are all rude to everyone except their own of course-hmmm?

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7 hours ago, sputnik said:

Oh please dont misunderstand my post.  I absolutely LOVE this country and the MEXICAN mindset.  The gringos might not appreciate this but I didnt explain I was just trying to be funny.  I think all the rules in the U.S. are insane.  That is why I love this country and the culture.  Many run the red lights because it is early in the morning and no one is coming. I see NO problem with that!!  If there is an accident, people take responsibility usually.  It teaches people to own up to their mistakes.  When there are many many laws in a country I feel that people tend to blame others.  Then the law suits come.  I also dont agree with property taxes.  Paying them means you never really own your home.  You are paying rent.  In the U.S. we paid $4000 a year so at least here it is so much better.  And NO, many gringos are FAR from angels in fact we are getting out of our current neighborhood and moving to Chapala where all are dear Mexican friends live because we are so tired of many of the gringos trying to change this area to be more like the U.S.with all its laws.  Please forgive me for giving the total wrong impression!!  I am a "guest" in your wonderful country, and am so sorry that in trying to be funny about trying on a bra i gave the wrong impression.

Apology accepted!

Just remember there are many, many Mexicans who read this board but don´t post because they don´t feel their command of the English language is good enough.  I am one of the few exceptions except for a few naturalized citizens like bmh.  Even more difficult is for them to understand your attempt at humor that comes across as flat as a pancake.  Mexicans who have a fair comprehension of English love reading these boards to get a better understanding (sometimes curiosity driven) of all these foreigners who have relocated here and to learn about them. Paternalistic or "better than thou" attitude is not hard to come across to Mexicans from even what you consider trivial or trying to be funny.  I speak up because i want the Mexicans to like foreigners and accept them and when I see that´s not happening, I raise the issue.

My family is mostly bilingual with Spanish being their first and preferred language, and some follow this board, just to improve their understanding of things that identify the culture NOB, and a few say they wouldn´t be bothered with some of the garbage on here.

True, that some people living in Chapala who travel locally between villages, do not bother to get driver´s license or maybe insurance because of the difficulty of going to Guad., or cost, or whatever, but just over the hill is a metro area with 6 or 7 million people and millions of vehicles from motos to camiones de doble remolques and they for the largest part by far are licensed properly.

Too much of the foreign population´s idea of Mexico and Mexicans in this area is based on their perceptions gained from a small area of small pueblos, when less than an hour away is a huge thriving metropolis that more genuinely reflects  the more realistic Mexico.  It´s like comparing a small town in southern Missouri to New York, Washington DC. Chicago. LA,  and on and on. Almost all Tapatios would laugh at you ideas about people without licenses, or knowing what predial is, or some of your other remarks.

! México es mucho mas que un calle residencial en Chapala o Ajijic ¡

 

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To say that French people are wonderfull is just as bad as saying they are rude to everyone or to say gringos are bad because they are trying to change Mexico..Mexico could use some good changes but it is what it is take it or leave itu. It is all stereotyping.   .. Sure there are Americans and Canadians and others trying to change the culture but that does not mean  all Americans or Canadians want to change the area..

French manners are different from Anglo-Saxon manners and that does not mean all French are rude and on and on.. No I do not have any patience for that kind of talk and it has nothing to do from the fact I am from France.. I have lived in the States longer than in France  and I have lived in Mexico almost as long as I have lived in France so I really do not feel more like or dislike for one culture or another, they are 3 different cultures and "all the dear Mexicans" are not great jjust like all the" gringos" are not bad , to use a vocabulary that  some people here seem to be in love with.

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, slainte39 said:

Apology accepted!

Just remember there are many, many Mexicans who read this board but don´t post because they don´t feel their command of the English language is good enough.  I am one of the few exceptions except for a few naturalized citizens like bmh.  Even more difficult is for them to understand your attempt at humor that comes across as flat as a pancake.  Mexicans who have a fair comprehension of English love reading these boards to get a better understanding (sometimes curiosity driven) of all these foreigners who have relocated here and to learn about them. Paternalistic or "better than thou" attitude is not hard to come across to Mexicans from even what you consider trivial or trying to be funny.  I speak up because i want the Mexicans to like foreigners and accept them and when I see that´s not happening, I raise the issue.

My family is mostly bilingual with Spanish being their first and preferred language, and some follow this board, just to improve their understanding of things that identify the culture NOB, and a few say they wouldn´t be bothered with some of the garbage on here.

True, that some people living in Chapala who travel locally between villages, do not bother to get driver´s license or maybe insurance because of the difficulty of going to Guad., or cost, or whatever, but just over the hill is a metro area with 6 or 7 million people and millions of vehicles from motos to camiones de doble remolques and they for the largest part by far are licensed properly.

Too much of the foreign populations idea of Mexico and Mexicans in this area is based on their perceptions gained from a small area of small pueblos, when less than an hour away is a huge thriving metropolis that more genuinely reflects  the more realistic Mexico.  It´s like comparing a small town in southern Missouri to New York, Washington DC. Chicago. LA,  and on and on. Almost all Tapatios would laugh at you ideas about people without licenses, or knowing what predial is, or some of your other remarks.

! México es much mas que un calle residencial en Chapala o Ajijic ¡

 

ok, thank you for your input.  I consider myself better educated.

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10 minutes ago, bmh said:

To say that French people are wonderfull is just as bad as saying they are rude to everyone or to say gringos are bad because they are trying to change Mexico..Mexico could use some good changes but it is what it is take it or leave itu. It is all stereotyping.   .. Sure there are Americans and Canadians and others trying to change the culture but that does not mean  all Americans or Canadians want to change the area..

French manners are different from Anglo-Saxon manners and that does not mean all French are rude and on and on.. No I do not have any patience for that kind of talk and it has nothing to do from the fact I am from France.. I have lived in the States longer than in France  and I have lived in Mexico almost as long as I have lived in France so I really do not feel more like or dislike for one culture or another, they are 3 different cultures and "all the dear Mexicans" are not great jjust like all the" gringos" are not bad , to use a vocabulary that  some people here seem to be in love with.

 

 

 

I understand what you've been saying here and see some truth in it, but IMO, while cultures are made of of individuals, and those individuals can vary immensely, like night and day, as to their attitudes and behaviors, there are cultural differences between people in general, even though all people from that culture may not behave like that. Observation of those cultural differences isn't wrong or discriminatory- it's interesting and can actually lead to better understanding between people, as long as the observations don't just run along the lines of the negative. I do a short-term rental of my guest room, and I can tell you that there are definitely noticeable differences in the expectations and behaviors between Mexican, American, European, Canadian, etc, guests. This is actually talked about extensively on hosting forums because understanding cultural norms from other countries can lead to better experiences for both hosts and guests. When people judge someone from another culture to be "rude" or "uncommunicative", it may just be that they don't understand the basis of the other's behavior. What might be considered "rude" to a Canadian (How can you tell a Canadian? When you accidentally step on their foot, they profusely apologize), may simply be that the person is from a culture where outspokenness and bluntness is common. Or that what is experienced as "uncommunicative" may just be a reflection of the person's cultural norms of being reserved around anyone other thn close friends or family.

A Chinese host on a forum started a thread entitled "Read this before hosting Chinese guests." Her post spoke to the cultural differences, as many other hosts had been writing in, frustrated with how to deal with their Chinese guests invariably taking over the bathroom in the middle of the night, complete with endless hair-drying, chattering away loudly, not using the shower curtain, leaving the floor awash in water which was going to ruin the host's wood subfloors and drywall. This Chinese host explained that in China, people work long hours, well into the night, and are accustommed to doing all their personal bathing and hygiene routines in the middle of the night. And that in China (much as in many Mexican homes) , construction is such that bathrooms are "wet rooms"- there aren't any shower curtains, there are drains in the floor, and the construction is cement and tile- there is nothing to "ruin". Many hosts responded to this post, thanking her for her explanations- it helped them prepare for these guests, as well as realize that they had to state clearly in their listings what "quiet time" hours were, so the guests would know that carrying on in the bathroom at 2AM isn't normal in the US or other places, that doing so keeps the other members of the household awake, and that the house construction is different than where they came from, so they need to be shown how to use the shower curtain and explained that a lake on the floor will damage the home. The guests weren't being disrespectful, they were just carrying on with their normal lifestyle, which isn't universal.

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9 hours ago, sputnik said:

I also dont agree with property taxes.  Paying them means you never really own your home.  You are paying rent.  In the U.S. we paid $4000 a year so at least here it is so much better. 

I have one brief question. If people with property don't pay taxes on it - particularly high value properties - where does the money come from to pay for roads, and bridges, and sewers, and police and fire protection... ? It seems the money fairies aren't doing a very good job of providing adequate funds to pay for all these services so I guess it will need to come down to paying property taxes.

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