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Jumping the gun on pricing aren't you? It is an unknown as of now. Why do you assume that people can't afford a car? I know someone who doesn't drive any more because of medical issues. Go where you want to go and be comfortable with where you want to be. I'm delighted with the new hospital since it's five minutes away from me. Emergencies happen and I will be very grateful to have such a facility so close to me. We're not talking about elective procedures here, it's about life and death. YMMV.

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15 minutes ago, Ferret said:

We're not talking about elective procedures here, it's about life and death. YMMV.

That is exactly the point I am trying to make. If you go into cardiac arrest, let's say, they don't have the specialists and special equipment to keep you alive. Even Jocotepec hospital would have to fly you to Guadalajara. The public hospital in Guadalajara I like has a brand new heliport it is very busy with air ambulances and I have also seen Federales copters land there.

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You assume too much. One of the prime objectives of the San Antonio is stabilization for transport if necessary. One of the principals is Dr. Garcia Garcia who is well known for all things to do with the heart. You are making judgements without facts.

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6 minutes ago, Ferret said:

You are making judgements without facts.

And common sense.

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Curious. Where is the nearest heliport to Hospital San Antonio? Jocotepec hospital has one. Ten minutes to Guadalajara. Advanced life support on board. Something more than a crash cart.

I know that you don,t live here Tiny, if you did, and if you had common sense, you would realize that the majority of medical practitioners here are chasing the gringo dollar. Even Quality Care, which generally has top of the line specialists has now raised their price to 800 peso per visit.

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Who cares? There are other ways to get to hospitals. And emergencies usually happen in the middle of the night when there's no traffic anyway. Stabilization is way more important to me than transportation. YMMV.

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On 4/30/2019 at 10:58 PM, MtnMama said:

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. We are in a string of moderate sized Mexican fishing villages and you expect the Mayo Clinic. It will be interesting to see if there are enough sick people to justify two hospitals.

From their initial information, it sounded like Dr Santiago's hospital was more geared to elective surgery and out patient services but that could have changed.

I wouldn't be surprised if the number of ill people is irrelevant to the success of these two hospitals. They will simply adjust prices accordingly as they have a growing and virtually captive client base. Good luck everyone!

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chillin in Chiapas the poorest state in the nation specialists charge between 600 and 800 pesos a visit as well so 800 in jalisco is not such a rip off . It is what most specialists charge.

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On 4/30/2019 at 7:20 PM, daisy2013 said:

The hospital being built on the Libramiento that will be part of Quality Care. It will be awhile before it is completed but the doctors at Quality Care are the best from Guadalajara 

This is not accurate.  My favorite Quality Care doctor tells me they have been invited to use the San Antonio hospital but they have no connection with the hospital being built on the libramiento.

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2 hours ago, CHILLIN said:

I know that you don,t live here Tiny, if you did, and if you had common sense, you would realize that the majority of medical practitioners here are chasing the gringo dollar.

I am not going comment on the "medical practitioners here are chasing the gringo dollar" because like you said, "I don't live there.".

If I did and my concern where I do live is not so much the hospital for recovery and testing.  Yes, it is nice that close to where I live. While living NOB I had traveled many miles to the Michigan University, University of Iowa and Mayo Clinic for testing and treatment.

My concern, anywhere I live, is if the First Responders (ambulance, clinic and/or hospital) had a good response time and the training, equipment and medicine to stabilize me.

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Please do not assume that all people without cars cannot afford to buy them, or that they cannot afford to pay for a ride to Guadalajara or  they cannot afford to pay for hospital services in a private hospital. Why would someone not want a quality facility nearby ? 

This new hospital is within spitting distance of me, and I am thrilled not to have to rely on the Cruz Roja for emergency care.

I hope the new hospital is a success and, I , too, am thrilled with the option of immediate care/stabilization prior to a transfer to GDL if needed. If not, then decent care close by is just plain wonderful.

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2 hours ago, CHILLIN said:

 ................. Even Quality Care, which generally has top of the line specialists has now raised their price to 800 peso per visit.

I was paying $600 per visit at Quality Care, back when the peso was 12.5 to the USD, my source of funds. So, I was paying about $48 USD per visit.  Now, at $800 pesos at 19:1, you are paying about $42 USD, and that appears to be in the same ballpark; maybe even a reduction for many expats. Certainly not "chasing the gringo dollar". If those charges were set with an exchange of 18:1, the difference in USD is negligible.

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OK more of the facts it Guadalajara Reporter is accurate. A lot more equipment and services (at a future date) than I guessed. But only 10 private rooms for in patient care. Sounds like their profit target will be day surgery and elective procedures. If something goes horribly wrong, which happens more often than you would like to know, then make your peace with your maker, because you will be meeting up real soon.

Also, another bad sign, all insurance has to go through Lakeside Medical Group, which according to many posters TOB, is accused of many shady practises, most involving filing insurance claims illegally in the U.S. and charging U.S. rates. But if you can rip off Medicare, and get away with it, many will be tempted.

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People concerned with rapid access to the latest technology and specialists should not choose to live in small towns in the central highlands of Mexico. 

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40 minutes ago, Xena said:

People concerned with rapid access to the latest technology and specialists should not choose to live in small towns in the central highlands of Mexico. 

I would guess your statement would be true in all countries and in many 3rd World countries you might not even have a good selection in many large urban areas possibly. Good point. Living next to Guadalajara certainly is wonderful, don't you think?

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In California we lived 13 miles from Saint Helena and 13 miles from Santa Rosa. One night I had to go down that mountain road to the hospital in  Saint Helena,that was a long 13 miles and the hospital was not a great place either.. that is what you get when you chose to live in the boonies..

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6 hours ago, CHILLIN said:

If something goes horribly wrong, which happens more often than you would like to know, then make your peace with your maker, because you will be meeting up real soon.

Just make sure they put a chapel in the hospital.  😁

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Again, more assumptions about the people that will be using the facilities. Not everyone has USA Insurance or Medicare.

I am happy that there is a great facility way over there in Jocotopec. That is great for the folks that live out west.

However, being one of "those people" that have no car and absolutely no reason to go to Jocotopec, it seems like a long way to go for care. I could probably crawl my way to the hospital in San Antonio. If I had to go all the way to Joco for care, I'd be dead by the time I got there.

Cruz Roja does the best they can in a difficult situation, but having to rely on them is NOT something I feel good about.

Are you not happy for those people in and around the new hospital ?

Everything eventually goes down that deep dark road for everybody. We ALL should be prepared to meet our Maker at any moment. Life is inherently dangerous. Everybody always ends up dead in the end.

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On 5/3/2019 at 1:00 PM, bournemouth said:

This is not accurate.  My favorite Quality Care doctor tells me they have been invited to use the San Antonio hospital but they have no connection with the hospital being built on the libramiento.

Could that be because the libramiento hospital is being built by the people who own or run the hospital in Puerto Vallarta?

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Waa, Waa, Waa...........so many negative comments.  I,  for one am grateful to be living in a small Mexican Community that continues to upgrade services for us all.  When we first moved here, there were very few choices in Medical Clinics period.  To have a hospital right close in town makes me feel comfy in the event I fall off the curb and break my arm or ankle.  Or maybe a huge allergic reaction to an insect bite.  How about needing oxygen when you can't breath from the current fires we are having!  I think this hospital will serve our community very well.  Especially comforting for when family visits!  

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