gringal Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 In another thread, someone mentioned the 30 year old topical pain remedy, "dicofloneco". This is also Voltaren. Before feeling comfortable using it, please check this info. provided by Dr. Google: Diclofenac can increase your risk of fatal heart attack or stroke, especially if you use it long term or take high doses, or if you have heart disease. Do not use this medicine just before or after heart bypass surgery (coronary artery bypass graft, or CABG). Diclofenac may also cause stomach or intestinal bleeding, which can be fatal. These conditions can occur without warning while you are using this medicine, especially in older adults." ...other than that.........🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 I have had heart attacks and kidney failure and therefore banned from NSAID use, like diclofenac, for life. That is if internally taken. In its topical form, like Voltaren, my doctors all agree that it is safe to use. I use it when my arthritic hands start to ache and it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha1 Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, AngusMactavish said: I have had heart attacks and kidney failure and therefore banned from NSAID use, like diclofenac, for life. That is if internally taken. In its topical form, like Voltaren, my doctors all agree that it is safe to use. I use it when my arthritic hands start to ache and it works. Yes, internal vs topical are very different. No NSAIDS for me, but Volteran in small doses and short periods is OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieG Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Yes, it seems Diclofenac can be really hard on the kidneys. I have used small doses to control arthritis pain in my knees for several years and have developed issues with my kidneys. A kidney specialist I visited today told me that this medication could well be the source of my problem and warned me off it along with the rest of the NSAIDs. Fortunately there are other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, CharlieG said: Fortunately there are other options. 1 Yes, using a topical NSAID vs ingesting it in tablet form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vetteforron Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Kinda of good for hangovers. Just take Ibobuffern as needed but, always check with a Doctor which knows your history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espíritu del lago Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 DSMO, CBD salve,I use that and arnica. Not all at once depending on mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espíritu del lago Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 https://www.healthline.com/health/what-is-dmso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 DMSO gives the user a strong garlic breath and is therefore usable as birth control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, Heem said: But Angus, as you are part of MGTOW this should not be a deterrent from using. Sorry but not only do I not use DMSO, I lease by the piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonia Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Diclofenaco is to be taken with food and if taking it for any length of time do regular blood work to check liver and kidney function. This from a friend and excellent Canadian doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crynoutloud Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 I just started researching SAMe for NSAID replacement for pain. Looks interesting and may be worth a try. Another great supplement is NAC. Actually stops some flu and cold viruses from replicating. Works for me and my wife. Good for the liver and kidneys and obsessive compulsive thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vetteforron Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 11 hours ago, Heem said: But Angus, as you are part of MGTOW this should not be a deterrent from using. I wonder how many people know MGTOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 33 minutes ago, vetteforron said: I wonder how many people know MGTOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floradude Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Voltaren is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug which is applied topically. In order to work it has to be absorbed into the body at the location it is applied. Some of the drug will of course get into the blood stream. How much and is it dangerous? Certainly less than an oral drug but if you have heart problems, etc. I suggest you do not use it with any frequency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 I use diclofenaco, the topical cream only. My mother just about destroyed her stomach with the pills, and yes it affects the kidneys as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justsayin Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Any opinions on Supradol sublinguals? I take 1 about 3 times a week for arthritis pain. It is an nsaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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