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Despite earlier attempts at this, and AMLOs political campaign, he is creating a 50,000 member National Guard. It will start in two weeks. It's exclusive focus will be cartels and drug dealers. The previous attempt was a national, non Federales, police force like "Gendarmes" which would win over citizen confidence, then these citizens would report any wrong doing without fear of retribution. This is pretty much how the R.C.M.P. in Canada operates (successfully I might add) and they are always asking for public tips. They have a huge system to collect and analize this data. There are very few actual Detectives now, they have found that snoopy neighbors make the best detectives!

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National Gaurd?  For a moment I thought that the French had taken over again.

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RCMP are federal police just like Mexican Federal Police.

Many dictators brought into existence, by changing their constitution, well equipped and well financed military personal answering to/controled by the current political party in power instead of their non partisan Army thoughout history.

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What could be more "democratic" than standing down the country's military armed forces and replacing them with a National Guard composed of "civilian" police agency members to combat a "civilian" criminal organization.  It's this what our Constitution protects us against?  The use of the military against our civilian population?  Sounds like AMLO is moving in a less "dictatorial" direction instead of what Alan is suggesting.  It's obvious that Alan has a hard on for AMLO so I doubt he will agree with any of his policies or attempts at making real, positive changes in Mexico.  Do you think we should just go back to another 80 years of corrupt PRI control?  Lets give AMLO a chance before berating his every move.  Time will tell.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/vanguardia.com.mx/articulo/guardia-nacional-de-amlo-se-asemeja-la-de-venezuela-obsoleta-y-propia-de-dictaduras/amp/

Google Translation:

"AMLO's National Guard resembles that of Venezuela, obsolete and dictatorships: experts and UN

NATIONAL

12 Feb 2019

The proposed Guard López Obrador advocates responds to a model abandoned in the last two decades and that in the region has only been emulated by Venezuela, said specialists

By Arturo Angel (@ arturoangel20) for Political Animal 

The National Guard proposed by Andrés Manuel López Obrador, with discipline and military training, violates international standards in the field of human rights, deforms constitutional precepts established for a century and a half and emulates a model of dictatorial or undemocratic regimes.

This was noted by experts in constitutional and international law, and the representative of the High Commissioner for Human Rights of the Organization of the United Nations (UN), during public hearings convened by the Senate to analyze the National Guard minutes approved by the Chamber of Deputies, and impelled by the government of Lopez Obrador.

The specialists consider that the model proposed in this opinion has fallen into disuse for more than two decades, and that today it only resembles the militarized guard of Venezuela.

 

In addition to the above, most of them agreed that it is a failed solution, since the data show that in 2006, when the period of combat against violence began with the use of armed forces, the homicide rate in Mexico was 8. cases per 100 thousand inhabitants, while by 2018 this rate already amounts to 25 cases per 100 thousand inhabitants.

"It does not seem possible to me that Mexico is incapable of constituting a civilian police force capable of confronting crime and opting for a way that is not in accordance with International Law," said Jan Jarab, representative of the office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights of the UN.

 

Below are some of the main objections and doubts that the specialists presented:

Violates international and constitutional framework

One of the central points in which most specialists agreed is that the National Guard model proposed in the minutes approved by the deputies, which includes military components in areas such as training, discipline, jurisdiction and mixed command, violently flagrant the international framework on human rights that Mexico is bound to abide by.

The expert lawyer in Constitutional Law and International Law, Santiago Corcuera Cabezut, warned that no democratic state can invoke modifications to its internal rules to go against the conventional parameters that are in international treaties, and that are clear in the exceptional use and limited use of the armed forces in public security work.

 

"The Senate is obliged to carry out a legislative control of conventionality because we are before an opinion that says to form a civil police, but that delegates multiple tasks to the Defense: from the recruitment, the discipline, the command with the military majority. It is not police but military, and is a frontal contradiction to the international standard, "he said.

Jan Jarab emphasized that Mexico "has obligations with international standards" on human rights that can not be ignored. He warned that the normal thing in a democratic state is to confront delinquents with civilian police institutions, and that the use of the armed forces must be extraordinary, as the judgments of the Inter-American Court of Human Rights against Mexico have made clear and the decision of the Supreme Court of Justice in Mexico to annul the Law of Internal Security."

Maybe you think AMLO's plan is constitutional and a great idea but others certainly do not, including myself.

 

The "first" 50,000 will be hand picked military and Federal Police given state of the art equipment and training outside of the Secretaria de Seguridad Publico - SSP - the constitutional Secretary [ arm of the federal government ] for Federal civilian protection.  It will be part of the SSP.

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9 hours ago, pedro malo said:

What could be more "democratic" than standing down the country's military armed forces and replacing them with a National Guard composed of "civilian" police agency members to combat a "civilian" criminal organization.  It's this what our Constitution protects us against?  The use of the military against our civilian population?  Sounds like AMLO is moving in a less "dictatorial" direction instead of what Alan is suggesting.  It's obvious that Alan has a hard on for AMLO so I doubt he will agree with any of his policies or attempts at making real, positive changes in Mexico.  Do you think we should just go back to another 80 years of corrupt PRI control?  Lets give AMLO a chance before berating his every move.  Time will tell.

https://news.yahoo.com/mexicos-congress-oks-national-guard-championed-lopez-obrador-235123316.html

"March 14, 2019, 6:51 PM CDT

"MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexico's Congress on Thursday approved President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador's plan to create a national guard, a key piece of the government's strategy to rein in gang violence that has cost tens of thousands of lives over the past decade.

With approval in hand from both the lower house and Senate, the constitutional reform to create the national guard will now head to Lopez Obrador for his ratification and then be published in the official gazette to become law.

The government said initially that in a first phase, the guard would consist of some 50,000 members transferred from military and federal police forces. Mexican Security Minister Alfonso Durazo said recently the ranks of the national guard would grow to some 80,000 by the end of the year."

It will become constitutional now that AMLO and the Morena Party reformed the Mexican Constitution to allow it.

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I think the National Guard is a good idea.  To dedicate this force to fighting crime and civil emergencies hopefully will result in an elite force.  I only hope the personnel being transferred to the Guard are screened good or we will have the same problems.  Remember in the USA we have a National Guard which performs invaluable services during national emergencies.

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4 minutes ago, rafterbr said:

I think the National Guard is a good idea.  To dedicate this force to fighting crime and civil emergencies hopefully will result in an elite force.  I only hope the personnel being transferred to the Guard are screened good or we will have the same problems.  Remember in the USA we have a National Guard which performs invaluable services during national emergencies.

US State National Guards not federal military style police force patrolling 24 hours a day. The National Guards in the US are hardly ever used for anything. Emergency weather disasters and crowd control etc.. They are trained civilians and only get called in when needed. No comparison to what Mexico will have. 

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16 minutes ago, rafterbr said:

Let's make this an all woman National Guard.  Works for me.

Or at least the ones in charge.

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Lots of chancla throwing practise. I know, a little sexist, but funny just the same.

I'm old enough to remember when Mexico had compulsory military service. That was scary, seeing roadblocks with what looked like young teenagers, holding rifles as if they didn't know which end was what.

edit: I'm sorry, I didn't realise that Mexico still has compulsory military service for both men and women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Mexico

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM5SJMsfmh8

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20 hours ago, jonnyintrouble said:

The Army is corrupted, the Marines are corrupted, The Federals, State Police, City Police, the butcher, the baker, that kid over there on his skateboard.  Why would this be any different?  Thank God for Mexican women, they are the nation's backbone.  

Exactly.  Why would this be any less corruptible and corrupt than all the other police forces?  If you have the means to make this not corrupt you could apply those means to the existing forces and accomplish the same thing faster by not having to start from scratch.

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Mexico sent an expeditionary force, the Escuadrón 201, to fight in the Pacific War.

I didn't know that - did you?

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