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Last year I had Ron Magen of Solar Technology install solar panels on my home.  His associates are true professionals in every way!  Due to CFE not reading the meters on my street for six months, my bill soared to an unbelievable amount.  Talking with them about there being a mistake did no good.  After that, every bill was enormous!  Now I pay next to nothing.  Ron is a truly sincere person whose follow-up is a genuine help in understanding how solar power works.  Just want to thank him and his company!!!  ron@solartechnology.com.mx 

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The previous owner of our home paid approximately the same as you... We installed solar and cut it down to an annual monthly usage of 500 pesos... We have a pool, freezer, etc so our usage is more than the average...

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Thanks to the OP and others for the kind words!     

For Oregon, the DAC level being at 500 kWh per 2 months, with a cost of over 5 pesos per kWh now, means that most bills over 2500 pesos are in the DAC rate; your consumption is likely in the 600 to 700 kWh range given those billings.

You can cut that cost by 90% and have a payback in the 3.5 to 4 year range, for a typical residential install in the area.

STI looks forward to seeing everyone at the Chili Cookoff, 15th to 17th Feb, and the Northern Lights Music Festival / Festival de Febrero again has a 25,000 peso STI gift certificate they will auction to help the musicians make it another great event.

 

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In a former life I used to do large ‘technical projects’. I would have salivated for a 3.5 to 4-year ROI payback period AND with little or no O&M costs for the life of the ‘project’.  If one sees ANY possibility of their living Lakeside for that long it is a no-brainer. Even if one has to leave, think of the selling point to a prospective buyer of having little or no electrical bill and no DAC to worry about ever. 

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2 hours ago, Go Solar said:

Thanks to the OP and others for the kind words!     

For Oregon, the DAC level being at 500 kWh per 2 months, with a cost of over 5 pesos per kWh now, means that most bills over 2500 pesos are in the DAC rate; your consumption is likely in the 600 to 700 kWh range given those billings.

You can cut that cost by 90% and have a payback in the 3.5 to 4 year range, for a typical residential install in the area.

STI looks forward to seeing everyone at the Chili Cookoff, 15th to 17th Feb, and the Northern Lights Music Festival / Festival de Febrero again has a 25,000 peso STI gift certificate they will auction to help the musicians make it another great event.

 

Sent you an email, Ron.

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I have, by choice, two too many photo-voltaic solar panels and almost always have paid  CFE $23 pesos per month or now that they are again billing us every other month, $46 pesos. Same goes for my hot water system. a hot water solar panel which I have had since 2008. And I have never used gas to heat my water, now I admit, there were a couple of days earlier when the water was a little cooler than I liked it when showering, but out of principle I have never turned on the instant on gas fired hot water heater.

GO SOLAR :)

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Capitalism wins again! Get government out and free enterprise solves most problems in situations such as this. Clean energy is possible when creative minds and the "profit motive" are allowed to create solutions without restrictions and regulations. Congratulations. 

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I am renting, so solar is not an option for me. But I sure would if I owned the house.

My neighbors all pay $200 - $400 pesos per CFE bill. I pay $3200 - $3800 pesos per bill.

For my work (world-wide, based out of Hong Kong) I need two desktop computers running 24 hours a day, 7 days per week.

Normally, this would not cost as much as it does,  but when they built this house, they used extremely small gauge wires.

This causes the wires to heat up building up resistance and requiring a stronger draw of current than a properly wired house.

The entire house from the meter to the breaker box and throughout the entire house is wired with 20 gauge wire, and should be wired with at least 14 gauge wire, and preferably 10 gauge wire. There is thicker wire in the cord of my night stand reading lamp than running in my house!

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The people who built the house only received a one-time lump savings of about $25 USD by going with the lowest gauge electric wire they could. But, costs me over $100 USD per month.

My electrician said because of the size of my bill, CFE would be required to put in a 2nd meter for just the computers, even without changing the gauge of my wires if I demanded it... and that would save a ton of money. (I laughed, because CFE does not respond to demands.) I would have to separate the lines from the existing line and have them ready to be plugged into a new circuit breaker (which costs a ton of money) have lines running from there to the new meter and of course, pay CFE for he new meter (a lot of money).

Paying to fixing up somebody else's house is not on my list of things to do. I will be moving soon. Two of the houses I have considered are solar and not only have $99 peso CFE bills (with pool pumps and Jacuzzi) they are also properly wired to accommodate people who use more than just an incandescent bulb hanging from a couple of wires dangling from the ceiling in the bedroom from 20 gauge wires. Viva Mexico!

 

 

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Renters are putting in systems quite often these days; their arrangements with the landlords vary from the homeowner paying the full shot to have it as a great rental feature and long term upgrade to the value of the home, to the renters owning the system (fairly easy to take if / when they leave, and re-install in the next location, especially with the micro-inverter technology) and some creative "hybrid" deals where each pay part.      

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22 hours ago, oregontochapala said:

May I ask, what qualifies as unbelievable? I'm not being snarky, I just wonder if our bills of $2,800-$3,400 make considering solar worthwhile.

Oregontochapala - I had to pay CFE $16K00 pesos for their error in not reading the meter.  Before this incident my bill was around $500 pesos.  After,  it went to $3500 p/per bill.  To me that's a big leap.  And it stayed that way for years until I had solar installed.    

Aquaponicsman thank you for your explanation!

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Aguaponicsman, I totally believe you when say 20 gauge. It's just that I can not imagine where the person was coming from who installed such an electrical system using 20 gauge. What did he use for lights? Candles? That sounds more like the size of wires I might use for an economical sound system, you know, the wire size between the amp and small speakers

I followed your advice. The very smallest gauge I used was 14, but more often 12 gauge and larger where needed larger. 

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