kgreenbury Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Interesting article from Mexico News Daily on Monday: https://mexiconewsdaily.com/opinion/is-lake-chapala-paradise-or-pair-o-dice/?utm_source=Mexico+News+Today&utm_campaign=e022013d4f-MNT+feb04-2019&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f1536a3787-e022013d4f-349578849 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bournemouth Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Based on the writer's 4 weeks in the area - it must have seemed a lifetime to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 I believe he has left this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 And his research contact was dubious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koshiboy Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Lots of information there, but what shocked me most is this: Quote The new mayor changed the charter in October 2018 whereby municipal officials and delegates are no longer elected, but appointed by the mayor. The article also references another "viral video" which can be found here: https://america.cgtn.com/2019/01/27/robberies-on-the-rise-in-lake-chapala-a-community-in-mexico-popular-with-expats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, koshiboy said: Lots of information there, but what shocked me most is this: The article also references another "viral video" which can be found here: https://america.cgtn.com/2019/01/27/robberies-on-the-rise-in-lake-chapala-a-community-in-mexico-popular-with-expats Why make it hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 That video is also poorly researched and sensationalized. For example it claims 50,000 expats here but the actual number is in the twenties during high tourist season and according to the reports I've seen the full time expat population is in the low tens. IMHO the biggest issues we have here are being loved to death by the Tapatios and the heretofore seriously bad and corrupt local government. The bidding is still out on that last one as to whether there will be real change or just better PR. Saw another report there are one million more cars in GDL than there were 10 years ago. I suspect that accounts for most of the horrendous traffic we have here now on the weekends and holidays. Coming back from Riberas last night the cars headed to GDL were backed up all the way from Walmart back to Plaza Bugambillias. Unfortunately, the problems of population growth and the attendant problems of poor development, environmental impact and increased crime are common to all of the more desirable places as a result of the boom in tourism and retirement. Until the baby boom demographic from the U.S. Canada and Europe passes this mega trend is just going to continue. For example there are similar reports of these problems in the retirement/tourist hot spots around the Mediterranean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Who knows if the robberies are up, they come and go. There was plenty of them several years ago when just every house on the street we live on was robbed... The newbies are making lots of noise about it now but I do not feel more in danger now than when the 18 were kidnapped and killed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryB Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 BTW the delegado elections are coming; they just need to get to them on the to do list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 Here ya go boomers, try this on for size... http://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/italy-town-pays-people-to-move-intl/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 Realistically folks I do not think we are getting any where near our share of the "10,000 baby boomers " who are retiring For what ever the reason our area/country has lost its apeal period, and will continue so because of the overstretched infrastructure etc...maybe ok for Tapitios and New Age hippies......but not " normal" NOB refugees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimanjome Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 I've been thinking about this a lot, as a younger baby boomer from the US. Where are these millions and millions of boomers going to retire? 90% of them haven't saved enough money to continue to live a decent retirement lifestyle in the US, and how the heck are they going to pay for in home care, or even a maid to help them clean their homes when they are feeble? And what about when they can no longer drive? The US isn't cheap! I have no idea how or they will end up. Any ideas? Double wide trailers in rural Arkansas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Berca Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 I have enjoyed his articles and have just finished reading his book. I think there is far more truth than fiction in his writings and far more research done than some of you seem to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 11 hours ago, lakeside7 said: Realistically folks I do not think we are getting any where near our share of the "10,000 baby boomers " who are retiring For what ever the reason our area/country has lost its apeal period, and will continue so because of the overstretched infrastructure etc...maybe ok for Tapitios and New Age hippies......but not " normal" NOB refugees So why is there a local real estate boom and finding rentals has become difficult and expensive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utilitus Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 9 hours ago, kimanjome said: ... I have no idea how or they will end up. Any ideas? Soylent Verde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 9 hours ago, kimanjome said: I've been thinking about this a lot, as a younger baby boomer from the US. Where are these millions and millions of boomers going to retire? 90% of them haven't saved enough money to continue to live a decent retirement lifestyle in the US, and how the heck are they going to pay for in home care, or even a maid to help them clean their homes when they are feeble? And what about when they can no longer drive? The US isn't cheap! I have no idea how or they will end up. Any ideas? Double wide trailers in rural Arkansas? Maybe a single wide in Quartsite. Really: there is such a place and it's pretty grim. I've wondered the same thing. Back in the la-la days of the late eighties and nineties, we lived and worked in CA, where most people we met were up to their hairlines in credit card debt; leased cars they couldn't think of owning, put 5% down on houses they couldn't afford and basically lived pretend lives as though they were far better off than they were. We lived "beneath our means", drove paid-for modest cars and paid our Visa balances off every month. When it was time to retire, we could afford to. Even so, the cost of living (even having lunch and a movie out) in a place like CA made us think of moving elsewhere, and my husband had spent many vacation times in Mexico in his earlier years. He appreciated the culture and the attitude. It looked like a good place to check out first. That was 15 years ago. I often wonder what happened to the high living people we used to know. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, Mainecoons said: So why is there a local real estate boom and finding rentals has become difficult and expensive? Yes the real estate business has improved these past couple of years but i would suggest there has not been a significant gain, most newbies replacing folks returning to NOB Whilst there was a rental shortage at the start of the season there are now many places being advertised on Facebook etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 More rentals, but aren't the asking prices still foolishly high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryB Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 The realtors I know are very happy people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomgates Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 There are a lot of overcrowded cities in the US. Austin, TX and Seattle, WA come to mind. If you want proximity to cultural, shopping, etc, you have to put up with it. If you don't want to, there are lots of places that are uncrowded. Think Kansas, Montana and South Dakota in the US. Think southside of the lake here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ficklepie Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 13 hours ago, lakeside7 said: Realistically folks I do not think we are getting any where near our share of the "10,000 baby boomers " who are retiring For what ever the reason our area/country has lost its apeal period, and will continue so because of the overstretched infrastructure etc...maybe ok for Tapitios and New Age hippies......but not " normal" NOB refugees This is not true at all. Last year, and this year, are the most popular years for gringos here ever. Honestly, don't know how this could escape anyone unless they rarely escape from their gated neighborhoods. Also, refugees? Use that word here to describe a gringo and Mexicans won't take you seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 45 minutes ago, ComputerGuy said: More rentals, but aren't the asking prices still foolishly high? There are a wide range, maybe foolishly high for Canadians..but these too will drop if the glut continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, lakeside7 said: There are a wide range, maybe foolishly high for Canadians..but these too will drop if the glut continues "High" is relative. Compared to most locations up north, they are a screaming bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 Of course it's relative. But I live here, not up north. I don't compare. My income is in pesos. For me it's not a question of "what it is" somewhere else. I don't care what a dascha costs in Russia, or an igloo at the pole, or the price of a hamburger at "The Works" back home. The prices are "relative" to here, nowhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 29 minutes ago, ComputerGuy said: Of course it's relative. But I live here, not up north. I don't compare. My income is in pesos. For me it's not a question of "what it is" somewhere else. I don't care what a dascha costs in Russia, or an igloo at the pole, or the price of a hamburger at "The Works" back home. The prices are "relative" to here, nowhere else. You're no fun. HAHAHA. JK Don't you know we have to solve all world problems. HAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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