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7 minutes ago, CHILLIN said:

So much better then the so called Capitalist countries, who have produced the highest energy wasting, polluting monsters of all time to fuel their economies. The rapacious greed to steal what is not theirs to take, to maintain these levels of  life destroying indulgencies, rises to the top levels of government, which are willing to go to war, and military invasion, just to secure its lifeblood, like some sick old flock of vampires, mercessly feeding off another's blood.

Are you talking about China?

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50 minutes ago, CHILLIN said:

So much better then the so called Capitalist countries, who have produced the highest energy wasting, polluting monsters of all time to fuel their economies. The rapacious greed to steal what is not theirs to take, to maintain these levels of  life destroying indulgencies, rises to the top levels of government, which are willing to go to war, and military invasion, just to secure its lifeblood, like some sick old flock of vampires, mercessly feeding off another's blood.

Oh I absolutely agree.  Much better for the cartels and criminal political class and a handful of insiders to benefit from the nation's energy than the average Jose on the street.  He can ride his bicycle and sit in the dark, ungrateful fellow!  Why should he benefit from a system that has produced the greatest good for the greatest number in the history of man?  Why should he get to live in a country where rivers like the Santiago and air pollution like GDL are just a fading memory?

Gotta limit that rapacious greed to the privileged, after all.   Can't let this prosperity thing get out of hand!  :D

 

 

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3 hours ago, Mainecoons said:

Why should he benefit from a system that has produced the greatest good for the greatest number in the history of man.

Ooh yuck - now you are sounding like that white supremacist, Republican Senator, Joe King. He claims only white people have brought any good to the world. Ignoring the great civilizations and libraries of wisdom in Timbuktu, Alexandria and Ethiopia which had long crumbled to dust by the time white Europeans were sitting around scratching their fleas, trying to figure out how to covet their neighbour's livestock, farms and women folk. When pickings got tough, because of competition from government, first thing they thought was to move to the "new worlds", with murderous intentions of colonialism and slavery. If you think the civilizations of the Western world will be sustainable longer than the great African empires you are wrong. The question will be if Earth is destroyed before another great empire of human accomplishments emerges? Or will be another dead planet, unihabitable, but still being run by AI robots. This is very common belief among many of the world's elite futurists.

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17 minutes ago, CHILLIN said:

Ooh yuck - now you are sounding like that white supremacist, Republican Senator, Joe King. He claims only white people have brought any good to the world. Ignoring the great civilizations and libraries of wisdom in Timbuktu, Alexandria and Ethiopia which had long crumbled to dust by the time white Europeans were sitting around scratching their fleas, trying to figure out how to covet their neighbour's livestock, farms and women folk. When pickings got tough, because of competition from government, first thing they thought was to move to the "new worlds", with murderous intentions of colonialism and slavery. If you think the civilizations of the Western world will be sustainable longer than the great African empires you are wrong. The question will be if Earth is destroyed before another great empire of human accomplishments emerges? Or will be another dead planet, unihabitable, but still being run by AI robots. This is very common belief among many of the world's elite futurists.

Please!!! Not even worth responding to. 

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1 hour ago, jonnyintrouble said:

Ya see Go Home, you're spewing Faux News propaganda here.  That's why at least one of us is question if your ma and pa might be brother and sister like the extras in the film, Deliverance. 

I will not spend even one more second of my precious life on you and your insane and bigoted views. Who is this guy? I am assuming that he has escaped from a mental facility somewhere. I hope that he is returned to get some help. I truly feel sorry for him. So good bye, good day, and have a good life. You will not be hearing a word from me again.

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10 minutes ago, gringohombre said:

I will not spend even one more second of my precious life on you and your insane and bigoted views. Who is this guy? I am assuming that he has escaped from a mental facility somewhere. I hope that he is returned to get some help. I truly feel sorry for him. So good bye, good day, and have a good life. You will not be hearing a word from me again.

Put that guy on Ignore and make your life easier. I do not understand why mods are allowing this to continue. Use to be rules about personal attacks and that poster is making them constantly. 

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7 hours ago, CHILLIN said:

So you are a guest huh? How is that working out for you, do you get special guest privileges? Member Discounts? Preferred Seating? Legal Immunity (honest officer, I didn't know!)? Or are you just another overworked, tired, slob on the bus, trying to make it back home?

I get a kick out of people saying we are guests in the country.  I don't ask my guests to pay to enter my home or submit documents to prove their worthiness or pay my taxes.  I suppose my definition of guest is different. 

I think the same of hotel "guests". Some stores are using this word now as well...seems odd to me.

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2 hours ago, jonnyintrouble said:

Ya see Go Home, you're spewing Faux News propaganda here.  That's why at least one of us is question if your ma and pa might be brother and sister like the extras in the film, Deliverance. 

Insults.  Not on topic.

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2 hours ago, gringohombre said:

I will not spend even one more second of my precious life on you and your insane and bigoted views. Who is this guy? I am assuming that he has escaped from a mental facility somewhere. I hope that he is returned to get some help. I truly feel sorry for him. So good bye, good day, and have a good life. You will not be hearing a word from me again.

Reminds me of someone from South Alabama that marched with MLK, but has forgotten what MLK was teaching! :D

 

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11 hours ago, Zeb said:

I get a kick out of people saying we are guests in the country.  I don't ask my guests to pay to enter my home or submit documents to prove their worthiness or pay my taxes.  I suppose my definition of guest is different. 

I think the same of hotel "guests". Some stores are using this word now as well...seems odd to me.

Someone mentioned they have every right a Mexican has except the right to vote.  That's true.  And so do I and I'm a visitor.  My point is why would someone who has been given all those rights, rights that newly arrived Mexicans don't enjoy in your country, forget the generosity awarded him and insult the people by retaining his gringoness all the way to the grave just because he pays taxes?  

 

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On 1/12/2019 at 1:29 PM, Mainecoons said:

Pemex wasn't denationalized.  It lost some of its monopoly on the production, distribution and sale of petroleum products.  The idea was opening it up to competition might force it to clean up its act.  Given that much of this massive theft of product that has exploded in the last several years involves Pemex employees it doesn't appear that has worked. 

What I can't get my head around is why anyone would think a country with the level of governmental corruption this one has could somehow as if by magic run a government owned oil company.  That is truly magical thinking IMO.  Pemex is simply a reflection and repetition of that corruption.  CFE is just another example of the same thing.  A while back it was reported that a million households in Mexico city are stealing electricity.  

Another recent report noted CFE losing millions of dollars in stolen electricity in Puebla.  Also reported is this theft has skyrocketed since 2016 and as usual involves employees as well.  Amazing the employees of both Pemex and CFE, among the very best paid in Mexico, are such thieves.

allon As a result, Mexicans pay through the nose for all forms of energy and will continue to do so IMO.  The socialistic scam here is the myth the people are somehow served by "owning" their energy.  The real owners of course are the corrupt politicians, executives and union workers who feed off of these entities.  All the Mexican people own are high prices and lousy service.

 

The competitive gasoline & diesel stations are not yet importing their own product. I would think this situation would encourage them to move up their import schedule. Wholesale cost of gasoline in Texas without any taxes should be around $1.00 per gallon. Surely they could convoy that in and still make a profit. I suppose that the government not expropriated petroleum companies in 1938 this situation would not have happened in private hands. A lack of competition allowed the sloppy practices and corrupt employees at Pemex and they just raised the prices to cover it.

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23 hours ago, CHILLIN said:

So much better then the so called Capitalist countries, who have produced the highest energy wasting, polluting monsters of all time to fuel their economies. The rapacious greed to steal what is not theirs to take, to maintain these levels of  life destroying indulgencies, rises to the top levels of government, which are willing to go to war, and military invasion, just to secure its lifeblood, like some sick old flock of vampires, mercessly feeding off another's blood.

I am sure you know that Capitalism has raised more people out of poverty than all other economic systems put together.

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5 minutes ago, geeser said:

I am sure you know that Capitalism has raised more people out of poverty than all other economic systems put together.

Nowadays it’s more like corporatocracy

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2 hours ago, Jreboll said:

Nowadays it’s more like corporatocracy

Yep, but it is still the most effective system for settiing prices and for decreasing poverty. What economic system has or is doing better?

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On 1/13/2019 at 12:06 AM, jonnyintrouble said:

Someone mentioned they have every right a Mexican has except the right to vote.  That's true.  And so do I and I'm a visitor.  My point is why would someone who has been given all those rights, rights that newly arrived Mexicans don't enjoy in your country, forget the generosity awarded him and insult the people by retaining his gringoness all the way to the grave just because he pays taxes?  

 

I try not to judge that type of thing.  My comment was strictly about the use of the word guest.

Insofar as the rest of it with respect to rights, rights are not derived from government, although governments have done a great job of convincing and training the population to believe this falsehood.  Government are given the right to govern by the people.    About generosity, I am not sure whose generosity you refer to.  My view is that since rights don't come from government, government is not "generous" as they nothing to give that we don't give them.  God gave us the earth and the rights are derived thereof, and the use of it, but people forget that basic fact. I don't want to get into a discussion about how the earth's resources are being used, that's a whole other can of worms and can be its own topic.   It's just great the great propaganda and that applies to governments worldwide.   

I am not really sure what you mean by "gringoness".  If someone is an American or _______fill in the blank, they are whomever they are.  I don't anything wrong with whatever nationality a person is.

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"God gave us the earth and the rights are derived thereof, and the use of it, but people forget that basic fact."  Fact? What do you know about facts? You god-bortherers just kill me (figuratively, though there was a time...). You'd think that in the 21st century, a statement like that would have you relegated to the short bus.

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On 1/14/2019 at 7:55 AM, Zeb said:

I try not to judge that type of thing.  My comment was strictly about the use of the word guest.

Insofar as the rest of it with respect to rights, rights are not derived from government, although governments have done a great job of convincing and training the population to believe this falsehood.  Government are given the right to govern by the people.    About generosity, I am not sure whose generosity you refer to.  My view is that since rights don't come from government, government is not "generous" as they nothing to give that we don't give them.  God gave us the earth and the rights are derived thereof, and the use of it, but people forget that basic fact. I don't want to get into a discussion about how the earth's resources are being used, that's a whole other can of worms and can be its own topic.   It's just great the great propaganda and that applies to governments worldwide.   

I am not really sure what you mean by "gringoness".  If someone is an American or _______fill in the blank, they are whomever they are.  I don't anything wrong with whatever nationality a person is.

Guest.  So it's semantics.  Now there's an argument that can waste one's time.   If the local authorities at Lakeside wanted you gone, you'd be gone and one of them would be living in your house and using your toothbrush.  Mexicans are a hospitable people by nature (actually by culture).  

There was a kid here in my ville, a chicano, who got arrested for drugs.  Doesn't matter if he used drugs or not.  If he didn't have any the police could plant some in his pocket during the frisk.  He was living in his uncles home, a retired Mexican/American serviceman living in The USA.   They took his home and all his property.  Both the uncle and his nephew were US citizens.  Now if those two Americans had one of the many local magical Spanish surnames it would have had a different outcome.  You don't even have a Spanish surname, much less one that commands respect, they might not even be able to pronounce yours.  You're a guest.  Like a loudmouth drunk at a party.  You go too far and they throw your a$$ out.  Why?  Cause you're a guest.  Casa ajena, someone else's house.

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