bmh Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 Say what you want, I know plenty who do not have a cell i Ajijic village and the gardeners on my street know nothing about the recycling program and they have cell ...We live in the same village Harry and you know very well where I live .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibbocat Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 The evidence on the doorsteps implies he does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryB Posted November 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 I will tell him tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryB Posted November 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 I spoke with Juan about the possibility of some mexicans not knowing of the recycle program. he has already thought of this and has arranged for 25 students to go door to door to explain the program. He has asked for a flyer and there is no money for paper and printing. he notes that there is another problem. The garbage contractor is reluctant to implement the program because he profits from the recyclables. Therefore, the regular trucks either took the recyclables or the special trucks didn't take them. Juan has reported this to moy and Moy has discussed the contractor's actions with him.Friday Moy will meet with the press to discuss the recycle program. BTW the red truck for the green trash is in the shop with no sign of recovering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisbee Gal Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 Harry, I sent you a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 Then why not have people separate the trash as we did for a short while and then let the garbage contractor take it? One less party to deal with that way. There was a time several years ago when a lot of people were separating recyclables of metal, glass and corrugated and the regular trash guys were able to pick it up and keep it separate. Why not go back to that practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 meanwhile the garbage is picked up twice a week on our street in the village and was not picked up yesterday so forget about recycling if they cannot pick up their regular route.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Ours wasn't picked up yesterday either. The trash woes march on, nearly 3 years and counting now. The new folks were handed a gutted government and they are up to their necks in alligators at the moment. We'll just have to see how long it takes for them to recover. At least the people responsible for this got tossed out in the last election. That's the good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 With untimely pick-up the streets fill up with garbage. Garbage is left overnights and dogs have fun.. This village is a pig sty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, bmh said: With untimely pick-up the streets fill up with garbage. Garbage is left overnights and dogs have fun.. This village is a pig sty. 'fraid so. Really shocking and sad to ride my moto to so many other places in Mexico and see decent maintenance and sanitation in towns that have a fraction of the resources here. But resources are useless when you are plagued with one bad and corrupt local government after another. We took ours back in last night but most people don't and that gives the dogs and other street animals the green light to spread it everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisbee Gal Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Can't put my hands on the article, but read that the new administration is calling into question many aspects of the contract the previous administration entered into with the private trash company. There were questions about truck ownership, payments, schedules, the treatment/hiring of former municipal trash workers. The new administration wants to review the entire contract and possibly renegotiate or end it. Given the history of the former administration, no doubt there was a lot of graft involved in this TWENTY FIVE YEAR contract. Things may get worse before they get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisbee Gal Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 This is google translation from here http://semanariolaguna.com/39300/ Manuel Jacobo (Chapala, Jal). - The municipal president, Moisés Alejandro Anaya Aguilar, will review the contract with the company Grupo Integral de Recolección y Reciclados de Occidente SA de CV (GIRRSA) to be sure that what the company charges him is really what is owed. "Today [October 8] I had an approach with the company. I told them exactly that I am going to review the contract from head to toe. If I see any inconsistency, I will manifest them, "said President Moisés Anaya. The objective, according to the president, is to improve the conditions of the contract concluded between the company GIRRSA and the City Council during the last administration, but, above all, it is to guarantee the service to the citizens. In addition, he asked the company to certify with documents the debt he has with the City Council, because according to the company, he owes 5 million pesos, plus five commission and whatever is derived from interest. To explain part of the debt, Anaya said that the collection company charges the City Council one million 430 thousand pesos a month, but now it would be impossible to pay the debt. To prove this debt, Anaya Aguilar will make an agreement with the company to be able to make the pending payments in a way that no part is affected. In spite of the existing problems, Moisés asked the general director Juan Castro Almaguer to continue with the garbage collection of the municipality, that in spite of the fact that he withdrew a vehicle that was property of the City council of Chapala and that the company had in use. Moisés pointed out that at this time the company is necessary because of the condition in which the municipality is located, as there are no vehicles or resources. "If the company decided to leave or if we decided to terminate the contract, the municipality would not have the capacity to provide the service. There is no truck except for the one that he brought and that works. All the trucks are practically dismantled "(sic), assured the president. To conclude, Moisés lamented that the outgoing administration would have sold the trucks as scrap, but managed to stop his transfer. "We managed to avoid taking the entire lot of vehicles because they were already practically sold and we managed to stop, recover," he said. But the consequence is yet to come, and now they await the legal response of those who bought the vehicles as scrap metal. "Obviously they are not going to stay with their hands crossed ... Then we are waiting for what follows," he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 They came around unexpectedly very early this morning. Since in the past missed pickups were not later covered we did not put the trash back out. Now the question is, will they come tomorrow, Friday or whatever? Moises has a helluva corrupt mess to clean up after. He deserves our support and understanding until and unless he proves otherwise. I hope he will ask the Alfaro government to do a forensic audit of the Degollado government. I suspect the results would be quite interesting if not unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryB Posted November 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Juan Ramon had a list of people who were not pickedup on sat and he sent a truck around to make up. The contractor is being obstreperous.If your trash isn't pickedup call the delegation to report 7661760. Juan speaks english, if you show a little patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibbocat Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 It might be an idea to get the basic functions working before trying an enhancements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Our garbage gets picked up Tuesday and Fridays although we are off Ocampo and it should be picked up everyday or we should be able to take it tp Ocampo to be picked up like we did before.. This said. our garbage was not picked up Tuesday or wednesday.. we ae no Thursday and the garbage is in the street. I took it n at night but that is not an acceptable way to run a business. We are paying for this service for 5 days a week and now they cannot even pick up twice a week?? There is money in recycling so let the garbage company make it if they pick up like they should.. A 25 year contract is insane... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 See the thread just started by Taaffe. The trash handling was as corrupt as everything else with the Degollado administration. I strongly support full and exhaustive investigation followed by legal action to recover our stolen tax money and send the perps to a much deserved stay in the slammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Well garbage was just picked up.. cannot complain they wee only 2 days late. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryB Posted November 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 bmh did you report the failure to pick up to the delegation? Only then can they do something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 Now that I have the phone number I will report it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dixonge Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 Fri/Sat all bags were thrown in compactor. No one was sorting any recycling. Lower centroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryB Posted November 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 thanks for the info, I'll tell Juan Ramon this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 They didn't pick up the trash here in SE Ajijic again this morning. Have the collection days been changed to MWF? How in the heck are we supposed to know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryB Posted November 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 call the delegation. I gave the number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted November 9, 2018 Report Share Posted November 9, 2018 Again trash not picked up yesterday. Called office and spoke to a lady there and explained the entire neighborhood not picked up. Asked for Juan but he was not there. Trash is still out front. Almost three years of this trash chaos and counting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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