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Does anyone know what this plant is? It has tripled in size in the last year. It is quite weak and keeps falling over. It might have has some small red flowers earlier. 

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Here is a discussion about the drink and flower;

https://www.chowhound.com/post/jamaican-sorrel-hibiscus-300476

 

So I think my plant is a species of Hibiscus but I'm not sure of the exact species.

 

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I have several books and print outs on the subject. None are complete. Some have no pictures. I have never seen a book with everything you want to know. The garden club had a book on garden plants complete with pictures but their current one has no pictures. I have a printout of the flora of Jocotepec. I have a number of books on tropical plants. Many of the garden plants here are not native to the area so any book on tropical plants will do. 

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7 hours ago, johanson said:

Islander; you mentioned  "we were renting in CVN couple of years ago."    Where is CVN?  Using "GOOGLE", I got all kinds of strange answers. Is it Clovis, NM?

Sorry Pete,

CVN= Chula Vista Norte  up libramiento.

That residence had so many interesting plants. I have a blog on it and if you want I can send you a link via PM.

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Thanks, Islander, when I saw CVN, I was thinking it was some place far away from Lake Chapala.  And any time I see the word "Islander" I think of Vancouver Island where we once had a "cottage". Let me hold back on that blog, maybe sometimes later.

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21 hours ago, Arroyos said:

Does anyone know where I could buy a book on the plants/flowers (maybe even trees or bushes)  of Jalisco, other than searching through the myriad of books at bazaars. 

In 2001, the Lakeside Garden Guild and the Lake Chapala Garden Club published the bilingual Garden Guide and Planting Calendar for the Lakeside Area of Lake Chapala, Mexico.  You might check the LCS library for a copy, or if you know someone from either of those two garden groups, ask if there might be one somewhere that you could buy.  It's an excellent resource, and obviously perfect for Lakeside.  

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Cedros - used books are easy to import. An interesting section was about the never seen, or really documented, spectacular Botanical Gardens discovered in Mexico City (CDMX) at the time of the Conquistadors. They attributed its richness to including parts of human slaves, especially ears, where the plants were grown. Thought they would have a laugh about that at the Valllarta Gardens!

A tougher one to identify, gifted by our ex-gardener and now friend. It is a long tuber root. If you have a toothache, you break off a piece of dried root, make like a brush, rub the sore area 4 or 5 times, spit it out, careful not to drink the juices. Mountain folk medicine. Centuries old.

I was a bit disappointed with the Gardening club offering, but I fully appreciate the time and effort which goes into creating a project such as this. It seemed mostly about introducing plants from the North into the Chapala area. I am more interested in rediscovering plants which have been lost to Mexico over the years. For example, many types of Amaranth, Corn, Squash and Beans. Did you know, for example, the giant red geraniums which grow so well here are actually native to Lakeside?

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And if you know what you're looking for, this site is interesting:

http://www.backyardnature.net/mexnat/

It is a naturalist's newsletter.  He seems to spend a lot of his time in the southern part of the country, but you'll recognize a lot of the plants.  He also covers animals - mammals, reptiles, insects, etc.  Not exhaustive, like a guide,  just notes on plants and animals he's run across in his travels.

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3 hours ago, More Liana said:

In 2001, the Lakeside Garden Guild and the Lake Chapala Garden Club published the bilingual Garden Guide and Planting Calendar for the Lakeside Area of Lake Chapala, Mexico.  You might check the LCS library for a copy, or if you know someone from either of those two garden groups, ask if there might be one somewhere that you could buy.  It's an excellent resource, and obviously perfect for Lakeside.  

The only book available from the Garden Guild now has no pictures. They were going to find one with pictures for me but I an still waiting-over a year later.

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Actually the gardener just dropped in, he tells me the plant is named Chicalote. http://chicalote planta Then he started telling me about Mexican herbal Viagra, another day, another story - without too many gory details! He also has a unique species of agave juice, which with wild honey, has cured many people he knows from cancer. His Father was a Curiandero.

Interesting link ancient Mexican/Aztec medicines, written by an expert on the subject:

http://www.mexicolore.co.uk/aztecs/health/mexican-herbal-medicines

 

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6 hours ago, cedros said:

The only book available from the Garden Guild now has no pictures. They were going to find one with pictures for me but I an still waiting-over a year later.

I have a first edition.  The pictures are in the plant disease section--they're drawings of certain kinds of 'plagas' that afflict plants here.  I don't believe there was ever an edition illustrated with photos of plants.  Harry, do you know?

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