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And you refuse to look at Tortilla de Maíz Mexicana, where the Kickstarter fundraiser is mentioned extensively.  We met our monetary goal with time to spare, no small feat in this day of proliferating

I must have missed something here.  This discussion was not only about the differences between tortillas made of processed masa harina and tortillas made of nixtamalize-d corn.  It was also about the

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2 hours ago, More Liana said:

It was also about the urgent need to preserve, protect, and promoteMexico's native corns

When you have a cause, next is to develop a plan of action.  Has anyone developed such a plan?

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3 hours ago, AngusMactavish said:

There isn't anything better than pre-Hispanic heritage corn nixtamalized and ground on a metate receiving an Arabic dose of spice.

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お名前は何ですか?(おなまえは なんですか?)   I misunderstood what you said in Arabic and asked you in Japanese, what is your name

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باستثناء البيتزا

ありがとうございます  And you told me in Arabic, pizza  and I responded  in Japanese Thank you

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On 5/29/2018 at 11:02 AM, Tiny said:

When you have a cause, next is to develop a plan of action.  Has anyone developed such a plan?

Of course.  I've recommended several times that you go to Facebook and join the nearly 350,000 other members of the group Tortilla de Maíz Mexicana.  You'll see the several initiatives that we've started--since 2016--and be able to read much, much more information than I've written here.  In addition (or if you don't use Facebook), you can join the Alianza por Nuestra Tortilla:  http://alianzapornuestratortilla.com/ .  You're right, Tiny, the plan of action is crucial if you want to expect a change.

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1 hour ago, More Liana said:

Of course.  I've recommended several times that you go to Facebook and join the nearly 350,000 other members of the group Tortilla de Maíz Mexicana.  You'll see the several initiatives that we've started--since 2016--and be able to read much, much more information than I've written here.  In addition (or if you don't use Facebook), you can join the Alianza por Nuestra Tortilla:  http://alianzapornuestratortilla.com/ .  You're right, Tiny, the plan of action is crucial if you want to expect a change.

I do not have Facebook so I do not know what these "several intitiatives" are.

What more would you like to see being done? Start a list of items that came be accomplished.  Present the list to the group Tortilla de Maíz Mexicana and get their support to act on it.  If money is needed, start a fund raising.

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11 hours ago, Tiny said:

I do not have Facebook so I do not know what these "several intitiatives" are.

What more would you like to see being done? Start a list of items that came be accomplished.  Present the list to the group Tortilla de Maíz Mexicana and get their support to act on it.  If money is needed, start a fund raising.

All of those things have been done and are being done already; for example, I wrote in an earlier post about the Kickstarter fundraiser that we created and achieved.  And apparently you also didn't notice that I'm an integral part of Tortilla de Maíz Mexicana, so it would be useless for me to "present the list and get their support on it".  I am "them".  YOU create a list and as a member of the team, I'll propose your suggestions. 

Really, I wasn't looking for people to tell me what to do.  We do appreciate suggestions, financial support, and intellectual support.  I'm a professional, just as is the founder and as are many of the people in this enormous international group.  Tiny, it's a non-profit--want to donate some money?  

And you don't need Facebook to join the Alianza.  I posted the link to that in the post you answered 11 hours ago.  Did you look at it?  

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1 hour ago, More Liana said:

All of those things have been done and are being done already; for example, I wrote in an earlier post about the Kickstarter fundraiser that we created and achieved. 

I did a Seach for Kickstarter and could not find anything else written by you.

1 hour ago, More Liana said:

And you don't need Facebook to join the Alianza.  I posted the link to that in the post you answered 11 hours ago.  Did you look at it? 

I did not see any action plans or things completed. 

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9 hours ago, Tiny said:

I did a Seach for Kickstarter and could not find anything else written by you.

I did not see any action plans or things completed. 

And you refuse to look at Tortilla de Maíz Mexicana, where the Kickstarter fundraiser is mentioned extensively.  We met our monetary goal with time to spare, no small feat in this day of proliferating funding requests for everything in the world. 

You know what?  When you're ready to take a little action yourself, I'll be happy to talk privately with you about your ideas.   Meantime, Tortilla de Maíz Mexicana and the Alianza have achieved non-profit status, no small feat in Mexico.  We continue to travel internationally promoting our action plans (sorry you won't read it to see what's going on) and raising funds.  Meantime, I wish you would study Tortilla de Maíz Mexicana as well as the hundreds of articles (including substantial international press--everything from the BBC to CNN to the NYTimes) about Tortilla de Maíz Mexicana) you could Google about the plight of Mexico's native corns.  Are you aware of a business called Masienda?  I didn't think so.  Masienda is the tip of the iceberg in commercial native corn production.  You probably don't know about Maizajo, either.  Or Molino Pujol.  Or...well, investigate.  I wrote here about native corns to spark some interest in the situation.  If what you're interested in is pulling my chain, that's not going to happen.  If what you're interested in is the heritage of Mexico's gift to the world, dig deeper.  Don't depend on me, I know you can find your own information!  

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I wanted to update. Ms. Chillin picked up some nixtalamized corn dough from Elena Torterilla. It is not the same as the one from Ixtlahuacán torterilla. It has less flavor. Our housekeeper brought us a brand new comal, 20 pesos. She then the other masa and sniffed, white corn she said.

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On 6/3/2018 at 10:06 AM, More Liana said:

And you refuse to look at Tortilla de Maíz Mexicana, where the Kickstarter fundraiser is mentioned extensively.  We met our monetary goal with time to spare, no small feat in this day of proliferating funding requests for everything in the world. 

You know what?  When you're ready to take a little action yourself, I'll be happy to talk privately with you about your ideas.   Meantime, Tortilla de Maíz Mexicana and the Alianza have achieved non-profit status, no small feat in Mexico.  We continue to travel internationally promoting our action plans (sorry you won't read it to see what's going on) and raising funds.  Meantime, I wish you would study Tortilla de Maíz Mexicana as well as the hundreds of articles (including substantial international press--everything from the BBC to CNN to the NYTimes) about Tortilla de Maíz Mexicana) you could Google about the plight of Mexico's native corns.  Are you aware of a business called Masienda?  I didn't think so.  Masienda is the tip of the iceberg in commercial native corn production.  You probably don't know about Maizajo, either.  Or Molino Pujol.  Or...well, investigate.  I wrote here about native corns to spark some interest in the situation.  If what you're interested in is pulling my chain, that's not going to happen.  If what you're interested in is the heritage of Mexico's gift to the world, dig deeper.  Don't depend on me, I know you can find your own information!  

 

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