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Hello, Have scoured the internet and cannot find answer to this question....

As permanent residents in Mexico, we have to return to the US for an undetermined period of time to assist in care of sick relative. How long can we actually be away before our status here in Mexico is taken away? Should we return every so often, or does Permanent Residency stay with us indefinitely?

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McBern

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When the law changed a few years ago, the in-country minimum days of residence was removed. If you don't plan to return, you can cancel your Residencia Permanente when you go to IMN (which you have to do anyway) to hand in the outbound part (for RP, the bottom smaller part) of the FMM (Forma Migratoria Múltiple..)

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Which brings up a good question -- I have been an RP for less than a week and will be flying back to TX in a few days -- what documentation do I need at the airport -- I don't have an FMM since I just went through the canje process.  And equally important, what do I do on the return trip in a month or so -- do I still fill out the FMM on the way back to CDMX ??

And where do I get the FMM -- at the airport or do I ahve to go back to the INM office??

 

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When you write you are now RP, do you mean you have your newly-minted "green" card in your hand OR you have entered recently, gone to INM and are continuing the process here to complete the RP process?

If you have your photo-ID card in hand, you go to INM at the airport at your city of exit (Guad, if a direct flight) and get a blank FMM from them, step out of line, completely fill out top and bottom white portions and write RESIDENTE PERMANENTE on the top of both; your RP number is on the back of the card. (We always take a few blanks for future flights or land departures: it speeds the process for everyone in line.) Return to the line, the INM officer will stamp your FMM, scan it into the computer, and stamp your passport and then return the docs to you. Now go to your airline check-in desk and they will take the bottom half; keep the (larger) top half to hand in upon your return. 

If you are not yet with card and just have completed the process within 30 days of your entry to Mexico, you must have an exit letter permitting you to leave Mexico for up to 60 days. There is a charge and it takes a few days to get the letter. You can try to do it yourself at INM or enlist the help of a facilitator to do so on your behalf.

Under no circumstances should you leave Mexico without your RP card and be forced to check the "tourist" box. Doing so can invalidate your status, require your departure from the country and have to start the process all over again.

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JRod is correct on all but this.: There is no need to fill out the top portion of the FMM when you are leaving. This is the part you will retain and fill out and hand in on your return. Why not fill out the top part when you exit? Well, you may not have yet booked your return flight (and there is a line on the form for the airline and flight # of your return), or you may change your return flight and date while you are away.

And don't fret if you lose the top half when out of the country. Theoretically the entry and exit are supposed to be from the same card (matching bar code) but INM doesn't appear to care if you just fill out a new one on the flight back. Confirmed by INM agent at PV airport.

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Always check the OTHER box under reasons for trip. 

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Hello, 

I have a related question regarding this topic, I am a Residente Temporal, and I have a "Green Card" too, I flew out of Mexico , when I re-entered Mexico from San Diego to Tijuana by car  I didn't see any INM officers, where should I hand back the other half of the FMM form?  Will this affect my future renewal of my "Green Card" if I failed to return other half of FMM form? 

 

Thank you very much

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It seems that the land entry INM officers don't care about your FMM form.  They either tell you so or take it and throw it away.  When driving I don't check in or out of Mexico and nobody cares.

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Hi Yo1 

Thank you for your answer, that's interesting.  

If I throw away the half of FMM I have now while inside Mexico, the INM system definitely thinks that I am still outside of Mexico (since I flew out of Mexico and "checked out" officially at an INM counter in the airport), then I have other questions coming up in my mind: 

1. When it's time to renew my "green card" in an INM office, will they deny renewal since their system hasn't checked me in ?(I assume that there is law to require the applicant to be physically in Mexico to renew?) , so do I have to make a special trip out of Mexico and come back by plane or other ways where I have to see an INM officer to check in ? 

2. If I decide to fly out of Mexico with my current "green card" before renewal, will I need to pay a fine or will it cause any trouble, since I didn't check in then suddenly I am checking out again in the airport. 

Thank you so much for reading my questions again, any thoughts or first hand experience will be highly appreciated

 

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When a permanente leaves Mexico and misplaced the the top portion of the fmm form, what should they do on return? Just fill out a new one and act like nothing happened? Or fill it out an d tell them? The bar code will be different....🤔🤪😳

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Mazgal- just fill out a new one on the plane and hand it over with your permanente card. It's always a good policy not to volunteer information you're not asked for when dealing with bureaucrats 🙂

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On 12/8/2018 at 8:47 AM, Yo1 said:

It seems that the land entry INM officers don't care about your FMM form.  They either tell you so or take it and throw it away.  When driving I don't check in or out of Mexico and nobody cares.

In TJ they don't even want to see it.  As a matter of fact that's true for the entire Free Zone.

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On 12/10/2018 at 7:14 PM, Guy said:

 

1. When it's time to renew my "green card" in an INM office, will they deny renewal since their system hasn't checked me in ?(I assume that there is law to require the applicant to be physically in Mexico to renew?) , so do I have to make a special trip out of Mexico and come back by plane or other ways where I have to see an INM officer to check in ? 

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There is no renewal for the green card. It's permanent.

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1 hour ago, dcstroker said:

There is no renewal for the green card. It's permanent.

A Residente Permanente card is green  and a Residente Temporal card is also but if he was comparing it to a US green card they are white and have been for a decade or more and a US temporary resident card is red. So "green card" is a bad choice of words in this sense. One should state which Mexican resident visa they have. RT, RP, Residente Temporal, Residente Permanente.

 

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I hold a PM Green card and have religiously followed the PM exit and return instructions, including keeping a stack of pre-filled out INM forms, both top and bottom halves in my backpack. Prior to departure or re-entry, I fill in the date and method of travel info.

I have twice exited and returned through the Laredo border crossing by car.  When departing MX and returning to MX, I have driven to the INM office at the border for proper processing of the  INM form.  This past week I exited and re-entered MX by walking across the International Bridge at the Juarez/El Paso crossing. Both when departing MX and returning to MX, I followed my previous INM form procedures.  The INM agents at the Juarez border office managed my exit and entry process entirely different.  I presented my US passport and MX Green card, along with a properly filled out INM form, except the upper half return date was left blank.  The agent refused to accept my pre-filled out form and required me to fill out a new form, which contained EXACTLY the same info as the rejected INM form. Upon processing the newly filled out INM form and stamping my passport, the agent refused to return the larger portion of the form stating that I would need to simply fill out a new INM form, both top and bottom upon returning to MX. The agent kept both forms.  Upon returning to MX and visiting the INM office at the border in Juarez, I experienced the same situation.  I presented a properly pre-filled out INM form and the agent advised that I still needed to fill out a new blank form.  A similar processing situation ensued as occurred during my exit MX experience.

There were 2 agents conversing while processing the 2nd form.  My impression was the agent operating the computer seemed to not understand proper INM procedures for  processing exit and re-entry of MX Green card holders.  In summary, the INM agents at the Juarez office collected and retained 2 completed and intact, identical INM forms, both during my MX exit and again during my MX reentry.

No comprende!!

Has anyone else experienced this bizarre deviation of published INM procedures for handing the exit and reentry of MX green card holders?

I did briefly argue with the agents that they needed to return the large, upper portion of the INM form back to me for both exit and  reentry to no avail.

Thanks for your assistance.

Regards,

Ed Terry

 

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 "I did briefly argue with the agents that they needed to return the large, upper portion of the INM form back to me for both exit and  reentry to no avail."

For entry into Mexico they keep the top larger portion. The bottom half is thrown away. Exiting they keep the small lower portion. 

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12 hours ago, Ed Terry said:

I hold a PM Green card and have religiously followed the PM exit and return instructions, including keeping a stack of pre-filled out INM forms, both top and bottom halves in my backpack. Prior to departure or re-entry, I fill in the date and method of travel info.

I have twice exited and returned through the Laredo border crossing by car.  When departing MX and returning to MX, I have driven to the INM office at the border for proper processing of the  INM form.  This past week I exited and re-entered MX by walking across the International Bridge at the Juarez/El Paso crossing. Both when departing MX and returning to MX, I followed my previous INM form procedures.  The INM agents at the Juarez border office managed my exit and entry process entirely different.  I presented my US passport and MX Green card, along with a properly filled out INM form, except the upper half return date was left blank.  The agent refused to accept my pre-filled out form and required me to fill out a new form, which contained EXACTLY the same info as the rejected INM form. Upon processing the newly filled out INM form and stamping my passport, the agent refused to return the larger portion of the form stating that I would need to simply fill out a new INM form, both top and bottom upon returning to MX. The agent kept both forms.  Upon returning to MX and visiting the INM office at the border in Juarez, I experienced the same situation.  I presented a properly pre-filled out INM form and the agent advised that I still needed to fill out a new blank form.  A similar processing situation ensued as occurred during my exit MX experience.

There were 2 agents conversing while processing the 2nd form.  My impression was the agent operating the computer seemed to not understand proper INM procedures for  processing exit and re-entry of MX Green card holders.  In summary, the INM agents at the Juarez office collected and retained 2 completed and intact, identical INM forms, both during my MX exit and again during my MX reentry.

No comprende!!

Has anyone else experienced this bizarre deviation of published INM procedures for handing the exit and reentry of MX green card holders?

I did briefly argue with the agents that they needed to return the large, upper portion of the INM form back to me for both exit and  reentry to no avail.

Thanks for your assistance.

Regards,

Ed Terry

 

This happens frequently at Laredo (but not at Colombia, in my experience.) The agent (and supervisor) told me that at that location their bar-coded numbers on the FMMs are tracked so they could not use the FMM form I had completed in advance since the number would not mesh with the sequence of numbers they were given. I just copied the info to the new form, destroyed the first one, and they let me go to the front of the line when I had completed the copying. And yes, land border crossing officials appear less familiar with RP and RT holders, whose process for in and out registrations essentially is the reverse of tourists: almost always a supervisor to help the agent. (PS: the correct computer code is "8")

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