tkessler 126 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 Hello everyone, its official ! Ilox Communications, a federally licensed telecom carrier, who already runs a high speed fiber optic ring crossing the Chapala highway at Jocotepec, will extend their high speed GPON fiber-to-the-home network to Chapala if we can get enough pledges. They need about 300 prepaid 1yr contracts costing $9948 MXN for the year to extend to Ajijic. Service includes 50 Mb Internet (75 mb 1st year), a Chapala phone number with optional 2nd number anywhere in NA, and many TV channels. After the contract expires there is no obligation to continue service. Read all about it at the FAQ here: https://goo.gl/CsE574 and the Sign-up form here:https://goo.gl/2kHdeE . There is no legal obligation to pledge. If you are a real estate agent or developer and need service for your properties please be sure to sign up and so indicate. Note I have no business or economic ties to Ilox and am not receiving compensation for this effort, except for the hope that property values will keep going up, since I am a homeowner. I would like to have higher speed service at my property. Tom Kessler 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pappysmarket 1,648 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 Wow! Now that is an interesting proposition. Pay up front and have faith. Hope it works out for everyone and if so it will raise everyone's property values. Money back guarantee if not built? Cash in an escrow account? 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkessler 126 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 Read the FAQ. The company is a registered federal carrier that has been in business for 22 years and currently provides high quality service in Zamora and other Bajio cities. However your point is why we are asking for pledges first. If enough people are interested, it'll go to contracts, and provide guarantee of returned monies if the project does not consummate. The current contracts the company has registered, where they already offer service, in English and Spanish versions, are posted in the FAQ and are registered with Profeco. The capital investment required to extend to Lakeside is significant, but because they already have the fiber ring crossing at Joco, is not too onerous. They need about 15 guaranteed 1 yr contracts per Km beyond Joco towards Chapala to trigger their internal justification. Critical review of the current contracts and suggestions are welcome. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pappysmarket 1,648 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 Sounds better all the time! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComputerGuy 3,614 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 I would like to know, if possible, how the service is going to get from the street to the individual homes, and how much these drops will cost on top of the initial fee. And of course what the yearly cost will be, and if maintenance is included. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkessler 126 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 Its in the FAQ. Ilox has a national agreement with CFE to use their poles, the contract is there in a link in the FAQ. Every year there is a census taken and the compensation paid. The $9948 MXN prepaid 1st year contract covers all installation. There are no additional charges. But do understand, this is why they are trying to gauge interest first. If there's enough interest, they'll execute the contracts, raise the triigger money, and make the rest of the capital investment themselves. Some developments may have underground services and rights to use those will need to be cleared. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComputerGuy 3,614 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 I read the entire FAQ twice. It does not specify that it covers all installation; it does not cover installation to the home beyond the CFE poles; it does not cover yearly fees; it does not mention service after the fact. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be negative; rather, I'm trying to flesh out all the angles. The so-called census is a deal they work with CFE, nothing else specific. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccw 22 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 I read the FAQ as ComputerGuy did. I did not see any detailed information. The link provided in the FAQ to the CFE document is in Spanish. Is there an English version available? Tkessler, are you involved in the business side of this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkessler 126 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 The FAQ gives the links to the Spanish and English contracts which specify all that. The FAQ also provides the link to the federally tariffed service here: https://www.ilox.mx/iloxhogar/index.php/paquetes/14-servicios/68-triples2 . Contracting service here would be no different from signing with say Telmex or Telecable. Installation and maintenance charges are assumed included. Maybe applicable to an extraordinary case and would be before contract signature. I'll check and advise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AngusMactavish 1,926 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, ccw said: Tkessler, are you involved in the business side of this? Enquiring minds want to know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bisbee Gal 546 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 My ears have perked up. But the best recommendation is from a current customer. Anyone on this Board know anyone using this service? Here's list from their website of areas with their coverage. Some of the city names are shaded in, but not sure what that means. LISTA DE POBLACIONES CON COBERTURA Guadalajara Jal. Zapopan Jal. Tlajomulco Jal. La Barca Jal. Sahuayo Mich. Zamora Mich. Valle de Juárez, Jalisco Jiquilpan, Michoacan Santiago Tangamandapio Mich. Villamar, Michoacàn Mazamitla, Jalisco Quitupan, Jalisco Tizapán, Jalisco San Diego, Jalisco San José de Gracia, Mich. San Pedro, Michoacán Cojumatlán, Michoacán La Palma, Michoacán Cumuatillo, Michoacán Pajacuarán, Michoacán Concepción de B. A. Jal. La Manzanilla, Jalisco Tequisquiapan, Querétaro Colon Qro. Ezequiel Montes, Qro Bernal Qro. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccw 22 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 I did find and read the English Contracts document. I found these 2 statements that might need to be more specific: b. Install, maintain and operate the network to the terminal connecting point at the inner edge of the building where is located the address "SUBSCRIBER". c. Install the equipment in the home of "SUBSCRIBER" and it noted on the cover of this Agreement. Here in Maryland, Comcast Cable does run the cable from the pole to the building. Running the cables inside the house/building can cost extra. And installing the "equipment" means them coming inside and hooking up the modem/router. I am very interested to see more details. I hope I am not coming off as negative. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComputerGuy 3,614 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 Okay, thanks for the extra info, and to CCW for reading all of it carefully. Looks like bases are covered, to a degree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sue 138 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 I would be interested I am with Laguna net now and their service will stop in April 2018 I like paying an annual fee instead of monthly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkessler 126 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 All, Please note have no business or economic ties to Ilox and am not receiving compensation for this effort, except for the hope that property values will keep going up, since I am a homeowner. I would like to have higher speed service at my property. My contribution to this has been in getting the sign up and FAQ forms done hopefully so we can get a critical mass of interested parties. After that Ilox will take over. You are welcome to contact Ilox at the contact info in the FAQ. Also please note the current contracts are drafted for the case where Ilox is currently providing service. They are reviewing for the case where service is not yet provided but will be, and all your comments and concerns there are welcome. We decided to release what we have because we didn't want to wait any longer. As for the coverage cities, Ilox has operated in Michoacan for years as Tele Rey and most of their infrastructure there is Cable TV. In Zamora, they've installed all GPON fiber which is very reliable and high quality service. Their other focus is enterprise customers. You are welcome to check them out. BR, Tom Kessler Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccw 22 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 ComputerGuy, thanks for the compliment. I would like others to read it carefully too and see if I missed anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
utilitus 58 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 Here is a link to a mixed descriptive and technical treatment of GPON which illustrates performance characteristics and how this topology is light on signal control electronics and thus relatively cheap; it's been around a while (I looked into it very casually maybe 15 years ago). See: https://huaweiswitch.wordpress.com/2015/05/ As Bisbee Gal suggests, It would be worthwhile to find current ilox users in analogous deployments and gather their impressions. Comments posted to the ilox FaceBook page are 'mixed': See https://es-la.facebook.com/pg/iloxmx/reviews/?ref=page_internal One recurring remark: "Worse than MegaCable." Still, after due diligence, I would be interested in subscribing in San Juan Cosala, but all I have is a bare lot. Do the building code and utilities allow water, power and telecom to be installed before the structure is finished? How about fiber-to-the-RV? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johanson 619 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 I won't invest but would sign up in a second, if offered faster internet. Give me at least 20 down by 2Mb/sec up, and I will be super happy. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComputerGuy 3,614 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 And thanks to tkessler for carrying on with this. I know he has been looking at various options for a while now. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkessler 126 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 Thank you Computer Guy...Peter, the standard package is 75 mb down, 18.75 up the 1st year. There's also 250 down, 63.5 Mb up. Theres also full commercial service up to 1 Gb symmetrical. There is no obligation or investment to pledge...If they don't know your interest, we can't get to the next step. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barcelonaman 510 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 Would be interested in sat.but maybe 10/20 download at cheaper price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkessler 126 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 Ilox capital investment justification is based on 300 prepaid signups of the triple play package for the first year, and that is the only offering available for now. After that their service offerings will normalize; include the less expensive offerings, and one can cancel or downgrade. If you own property in the area, consider the benefits of being an early adopter and watching your home value increase, even if you're getting more than you need or want the first year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vetteforron 136 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 Well, I signed up. I would pay for two. I hope this works out. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catbird 18 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 I signed up, Chula Vista. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rvanparys 188 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 We signed up... A big kudo to Tom for this and his past efforts dueling with TelMex... 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
