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1 minute ago, Jeanneboo said:

Does anyone know where to find E-Cigarettes Lakeside?  (Have a guest in need.) Thanks

I hate to be an enabler since they're reputed to be worse than the real thing, but I believe that the Dildoria next door to Cocinart on 16 de Septiembre in Ajijic has them.  They had a sign out front re them at one point. I can sympathize with the need, as a (long time ago) former heavy smoker.B)

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You may want to brush up on that info Gringal. They are not worse than the real thing and there are studies to back that up.

Yes, Dildoria has a e-cigs but, as far as I know, they don't sell any e-liquid with nicotine in it. I would love for that info to be incorrect now if your friend could ask.

 

 

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1 hour ago, gringal said:

I hate to be an enabler since they're reputed to be worse than the real thing, but I believe that the Dildoria next door to Cocinart on 16 de Septiembre in Ajijic has them.  They had a sign out front re them at one point. I can sympathize with the need, as a (long time ago) former heavy smoker.B)

E-cigs are far less harmful than the real thing - a very little research will prove that. Nice Vaping in Zapopan sells all kinds of ecig products with super fast delivery (free delivery on orders over 1500 pesos)

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This is from WebMD a very reputable site. I posted this not to start trouble or a begin a debate, but some of you are so nasty in your replies. E-cigs, majority of them, have some form of formaldehyde or antifreeze (this is a fact, can be proven) so when Gringal stated they are worse, there is some truth in what she said. There was no reason to try and be so rude. It seems like some of the same people sit around and wait to pounce on peoples' posts, that is really not nice.

Now, many of you are going to feel the need to pounce on my reply, please, I am asking you to just reflect on what and how you phrase your replies.

 

Are They Safe?http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/features/vape-debate-electronic-cigarettes

Most contain the chemical nicotine, which is addictive. When you stop using it, you can go into withdrawal and feel depressed and crabby. Nicotine isn't good for people with heart problems. And some initial research shows it may hurt your arteries.

It can also:

  • Harm the developing brains of kids and could affect memory and attention.
  • Damage unborn babies. Pregnant women shouldn't use anything with nicotine.

But the concerns go beyond nicotine alone.

Some brands contain chemicals including formaldehyde -- often used in building materials -- and another ingredient used in antifreeze that can cause cancer.

Flavors in e-cigs also raise red flags. Some use a buttery-tasting chemical called diacetyl, which is often added to foods like popcorn. When it's inhaled, it can be dangerous.

"Diacetyl is a well-known harmful chemical, which, among other things, causes a lung disease called 'popcorn lung,'" says Erika Sward, assistant vice president for national advocacy at the American Lung Association.

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When I have the time, I will post innumerable links to show the opposite and, in fact, that nicotine all by itself is quite interesting to the medical community as a Medicine. I actually didn't find either of the replies to Gringal nasty at all. YMMV... and Gringal is a good friend.

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Sorry for getting on my high horse. If somebody asks for information on where to get a good hamburger with great fries is that considered enabling for a cholesterol/triglyceride fix?

From February 7th of this year, an excellent article by CNN showing the evolution of thought behind e-cigs... http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/31/health/where-we-stand-now-e-cigarettes/

For the record, I do not advocate young people using them but, I have a sneaking suspicion that most people reading this forum are over the age of 50. Cigs or e-cigs can cause damage to SOME people but we are all genetically unique and handle things in different ways.

Here is a list of links about the PROS of Nicotine alone without all the nasty stuff in tobacco cigarettes.

 

"So here's the whole list explaining it again...

Is everything we know about Nicotine wrong?...

http://themindunleashed.org/2014/10/nicotine-are-we-wrong.html

Researchers Light Up for Nicotine...

http://www.wired.com/2007/06/nicotine/

Nicotine and Inflammatory Neurological Disorders...

http://www.nature.com/aps/journal/v30/n6/full/aps200967a.html

Narcolepsy with Cataplexy masked by the use of Nicotine...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3311418/

Nicotine improves memory and helps the brain repair itself

http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20031012195753data_trunc_sys.shtml

Narcolepsy and Nicotine...

http://autoimmunepatient.com/wordpress/2013/03/07/narcolepsy-and-nicotine/

Narcolepsy: waking up with a nicotine patch...

http://sleepeducation.blogspot.mx/2010/03/narcolepsy-waking-up-with-nicotine.html

Tobacco more addictive than Nicotine...

http://www.healthnz.co.nz/Addiction_TobNic.htm

and I'll add a new one from Forbes magazine done last summer (2 pages) ...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallysatel/2015/06/19/nicotine-can-save-lives/#51e99f982cdf

and another one...

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/25/21/5225.full

 

 

 

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All I'm saying is that you MUST get your ecig supplies from a reputable source in order not to get the harmful stuff, I agree that there are - just like in many things,  ingredients to avoid from poor/discounting sources. Certainly no intention to be rude or insulting was meant. Just sayin. 

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Wow, I know this will probably get me banned, but majority of you people are pathetic. You sound like a bunch of bitter , unfulfilled and unintelligent assholes. Ferret what you did was a desperate sign for validation. I am sorry your life didn't turn out the way you planned. If this is a sample of the type of people who are there a warning sign needs to be posted: DANGER!!! AHEAD LIES A COMMUNITY FILLED WITH HAS BEENS WHO NEVER WERE!!!!!!!! 

 

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Didn't learn anything eh?

BTW, I don't need validation from you or anyone else but I will correct outdated and erroneous information. And I've had a wonderful, happy and fulfilling life so far.

The fact of the matter is that the OP asked for information not a lecture. The "enabler" comment was unjustified and spiteful. Fire away.

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I apologize Jeanneboo, I really do. My husband and I are making the move to Ajijic in May and I have been on a lot ( and I mean a lot) of sites like these and it is always the same, someone asks a simple question or makes a simple reply and people pounce.  The stress and anxiety over this move just got to me and I acted in an inappropriate way. Please, accept my apology, I did not want to make you upset.:(:(

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28 minutes ago, Denise said:

I apologize Jeanneboo, I really do. My husband and I are making the move to Ajijic in May and I have been on a lot ( and I mean a lot) of sites like these and it is always the same, someone asks a simple question or makes a simple reply and people pounce.  The stress and anxiety over this move just got to me and I acted in an inappropriate way. Please, accept my apology, I did not want to make you upset.:(:(

The "enabler" comment was meant as light irony; not in any negative way, but some people are in a dark mood and take any opportunity to pounce.  Some even start playing amateur shirnk and go so far as to tell other posters (who they have never met) what their lives are like!  Good grief.  As I also said, I'm well aware of the awfulness of nicotine withdrawal, as an ex heavy smoker who HAD to quit due to health problems.  That was many years ago, and I'm still paying for my habit, but yes, I know there are people who can produce credible research to support either pro or con views on smoking or e-cigarettes.  A former friend, now deceased from other causes, once sent me a reference to a group that advocates smoking as being GOOD for you, so go figure.

You are indeed under a lot of stress with the move, and I understand how words on a web site can be taken in the wrong way since you're not sitting next to the person reading the body language.....the most telling thing in any conversation.;)

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12 hours ago, Denise said:

Wow, I know this will probably get me banned, but majority of you people are pathetic. You sound like a bunch of bitter , unfulfilled and unintelligent assholes. Ferret what you did was a desperate sign for validation. I am sorry your life didn't turn out the way you planned. If this is a sample of the type of people who are there a warning sign needs to be posted: DANGER!!! AHEAD LIES A COMMUNITY FILLED WITH HAS BEENS WHO NEVER WERE!!!!!!!! 

 

I just read this thread and am sitting here stunned. WHAT did anyone say to deserve this hateful rant? Not content to personally and visiously attack a poster with whom she disagrees, Denise attacked "the majority of people" posting here (from whom she has been seeking advice and support) as being a bunch of "bitter, unfulfilled and unintelligent assholes" and "has beens who never were." This behavior apparently is justified because she is "under a lot of stress." 

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