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Who would I contact to remind the Mayor that there are significant opportunities to attract internet technical workers from all over the world to Chapala/Ajijic. All that would be required would be access to the Federal internet super high speed connection (which runs along the toll road to CDMX). Maybe even the Federal government would pay for a limited connection. It would attract a younger crowd, with good paying jobs, who would rather work in the great weather and easygoing, healthy lifestyle here. It really wouldn't take too much to attract these people here. Once started, word would get around very quickly. Maybe even Carlos Slim could get behind this initiative. If Telmex was gifted access to speeds up to 100mps, I'm sure they would be willing to technically support it, etc. Yes, they will probably attract call centres here too - but that creates a lot of employment.

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I totally agree. we are still planning on moving to the area but a serious concern is our ability for my wife to keep consulting with such low internet speeds. Right now we are used to 100mips on the download and upload . yes, it is fiber , but before we switched to fiber it was about 75 on the download and 40 on the upload. Our son would like to visit often. He works in Silicon valley as a software engineer and can work away from the office but raised serious doubts of his ability to work within his network as a result of the speeds. We have passed on house rentals that dont have internet at all. I would also agree that getting better broadband service would be an attraction and in turn make for a better economy and a more robust housing market. Just my 2 cents,

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I would imagine outlying areas are going to be the last to get reliable high speed service. I'd expect capital cities and current major hubs of commerce are first on the list, attracting people to lake side with high speed internet isn't a priority.

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Mayor doesnt care and nobody wants competition, if that were the case they would have more police and fix the streets to attract people and industry not just the weekend drinking crowd, and people that work for the private sector dont need government freebies so they cannot be controlled as easily. 

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This admin is only interested in Chapala Tourism. Lots of cash flow and opportunities to participate in it. The want Chapala to be PV!

 

Business has too much documentation, Silicon valley type of employers keep too much records?

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I dunno....seems that "more business" might me more interesting to the people who sell internet access than to a local politician who won't benefit from faster internet speeds. So maybe pitch this to Telmex....at a higher level than local.....

 

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A "technology village" in the sun, with English speakers, would appeal to people who spend up to 12 hours a day in front of a computer. Maybe someone at the media centre and technical college could promote this? It is sad these students work very hard on developing these skills, but have to leave the local family nest to move to Guadalajara for work.

Another potential option, is that the new hotel/condo development in Chapala Haciendas and Las Brisas is rumoured to be installing fiber optic. They probably mean that the units are fiber optic ready, when such an upgrade becomes available. If it is not, they may be able to host a powerful local wi-fi hub, with paid subscribers. This could become quite lucrative for them. That would be good for us hillbillies, but would not be powerful enough to reach Chapala or Ajijic. I have to contact them.

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I'm really interested to promote the state of Jalisco as a technology and share the vision as a tech hub for the riviera, but for this first things first, tech talent must be skilled and have a work and community  culture. For this to happen must attract and generate talent but most important generate such opportunities. 

I offer my services to generate such culture by generating meetups close to Chapala and Ajijic on weekends and maybe one weekday so people get interested on technology. Thinking first to attract people, on the meanwhile the entepreneurs of the lake must be generating projects to develop this new talents will arrase.

For all this to happen I need to first generate touch with some people and community to generate a good plan to touch this great community.

I know this is an old post but if it is important for you all, please if you are in.

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It is not that we don't hear you Claudio. I think the idea of a "techno village" is desirable and easy sell, with minimal advertising budgets. Especially if the 100mps service finds its way as seems to be in motion. I know people who moved from Chapala/Ajijic to Guadalajara because of internets speeds. They are great people, and would be great neighbors. Some the old timers might become upset with an influx of millennials an hipsters milling about - but many of these same people think that anyone under 60 with wealth is on the run from the law or trust fund kids.

There is a younger man, who was working for the City, very driven, especially about environmental causes. I believe he is (eventually) building a political career. Harry B. might know his name, and if he even survived the recent elections. Harry?

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El bartman, yes, you are right, infrastructure , it is important, but in Mexico demand rules, no demand, no business, no investment. Cloud based services are OK for several startups.

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Thank you CHILLIN i think will be good to contact him, lets wait for Garry B to respond.

I knew there was a person on the last administration, a regidor who was interested on attracting investment and giving the opportunities for the people of the region, I think was a person called Juan Carlos but cant remember his last name.

Best regards, 

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I think that is the name Claudio. I have lots of ideas on this subject and used to be involved with "business incubators" in the early 1980's. Lets see if Juan Carlos can meet for coffee and see where it all goes.

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Last May, in another context, I posted the following to this board:

"Posted May 4, 2017

Just FYI - From the Financial TImes - "Trump visa crackdown spurs tech moves to Mexico - Silicon Valley expands south for access to skilled engineers struggling to enter US"  See: https://www.ft.com/content/7d8e3a2e-302c-11e7-9555-23ef563ecf9a (Limited free access with registration) ...

One reason I became more interested in Lakeside a couple of years ago was Guads' planned participation in an IEEE 'smart cities' (IoT) worldwide initiative, and Jaliscos' ambitious "Creative Digital Cities" plans.  (See http://esci-ksp.org/project/guadalajara-creative-digital-city/ )  Last time I looked into them, neither of these seemed to be scaling, the participation of a few fine academics aside.  But I can't really tell from here in California or during brief visits."

Also, a small project out of Guad inviting business contacts with Silicon Valley seems to have gone nowhere - I can't find the web site.

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Thank you CHILLIN and utilitus for sharing previous experiences, interests and points of view. I really want to start what didn't happened with the projects you mention, so people on the region may develop without letting apart family and friends in search for something better.

On my previous experiences I've started one project to help ignite startups but failed, before that I've started a company on CDMX, this one keeps alive but I left it because on the early stages lost a lot of money (my money). And now I have two projects, one of those may impact positively to the expat communities in the Chapala Riviera and the other may help Software and Data Engineers, Developers, User Experience Designers, Technical Writers, Project Managers and IT Experts to find a job, feel useful, develop creativity and ideas, or even a career without letting their homes in the Riviera, doesn't matter the level of knowledge they have.

If you feel interested on starting a Focus Group, Mastermind, or any kind of discussion Group please let me know. I'm planning to invite a regidor from Chapala who is interested on the development of the area, but that depends on the stage of the idea to became an program or intiative so doesn't conflict any schedule or interest.

Best regards,

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Your ideas are very good. My concepts are much more primitive. I see promoting Ajijic/Chapala to the computer nomads, living and working from an old Mexican village in the sun. Something trendy, something fun, something different to the morning commute to an office "cubicle farm". As far as local opportunities, I see a lot of opportunities for processed food products, the U of G, for example might open a business stimulator sending in their agricultural, food processing, and marketing students. There is Federal money available for equipment. Participants would get help with simple things such as labelling, bar codes, food safe packaging, etc. When they are ready to bust out of the stimulator, they already know what is required for success and how to fill orders, pronto. Maybe the U of G students will find work from this as well, upon graduation.They have a successful experiment in a South Mexico location where Walmart agreed to a special display featuring locally produced goods, all of which could go through their bar code readers and were packed according to Walmart standards.

 

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Many ex-pats who can work online have already moved here. I have customers who are engineering, architecting, designing software, mining, all kinds of things. All well under the typical 65-yr retirement age.

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Why would you want to attract more people? What benefit to the community? Do you want more demand on housing, utilities, services and policing. Possible more noise.

Somebody mentioned call centers. There are several in GDL. One of my in-laws have worked at a couple. Let me tell you, they don't pay that well.

22 hours ago, utilitus said:

Last May, in another context, I posted the following to this board:

"Posted May 4, 2017

Just FYI - From the Financial TImes - "Trump visa crackdown spurs tech moves to Mexico - Silicon Valley expands south for access to skilled engineers struggling to enter US" 

Interesting.

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23 minutes ago, CHILLIN said:

I have been following bamboo plates lately. While this success story is probably more suited to Southern Mexico - still, 750 people lifted out of extreme poverty, producing a product which is good for the environment and a sustainable future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8LSvLkuTic

What does that have to do with tech centers?

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Thank you all for your replies:

It may sound like a crowd, but is not, my focus is to generate jobs but specially on tech industry for locals, not attracting more people, just letting locals develop on a software or tech career. An expats community is great to develop talent, maybe generating an Open House, meetup, informal training, or whatever event to relate may create a great community.

I don't believe in Guadalajara as the "the next Silicon Valley" those where different times, and further more it must get own sense to give to the world, even it need small hubs close to it to generate better jobs, better living/working spaces.

As you may know mexican's want to keep together always, regarding the community as the benefit to the local community, as I mention is allowing a son to stay close to their parents (if is their wish) and keep families together.

I know call centers doesn't pay well, that's a shame, but it's also to let local people to stay with a nice payed job, and avoid them moving to other places like Guadalajara.

Thanks for sharing all the links, specially the Upaya video, seems something may be replicated in the region but with local products.

If @ComputerGuymay help us with contact with expats who want to participate on a labor to generate more tech talent on the region it will be great.

 

Best regards,

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Thanks for asking, but no. That's not part of what I do and I am not interested in polling my computer customers for their opinions.

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Didn't we go thru this tech center complex stuff a decade ago followed up by a major amusement park complex followed by casinos in the mountains.  Pipe dreams all of them. What makes anyone think that the government of Jalisco would in any way support diverting any potential tech focused enterprise from the Guadalajara massive efforts in the tech direction to the area they have already decided will be a playground.  

 

 

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