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VISA REQUIREMENTS AT MEXICAN CONSULATES OUTSIDE MEXICO:
To qualify for the temporary visa they must show a monthly income of 300 times the minimum wage (for 2017 it is 80.04 pesos) or 24,012 pesos or $1,158 US dollars using an exchange rate of 20.73 to 1 (using December 28, 2016 exchange rate). This must be documented with 6 months bank statements. People who have liquid assets may qualify showing that they have maintained an average balance of 5,000 times the minimum wage (for 2017 it is 80.04 pesos) or 400,200 pesos or $19,305 US dollars using an exchange rate of 20.73 to 1 (using December 28, 2016 exchange rate). This must be documented with 12 months bank statements.

To qualify for the permanent visa they must show a monthly income of 500 times the minimum wage (for 2016 it is 80.04 pesos) or 40,020 pesos or $2,117 US dollars using an exchange rate of 20.73 to 1 (using December 28, 2016 exchange rate). This must be documented with 6 months bank statements. People who have liquid assets may qualify showing that they have maintained an average balance of 20,000 times the minimum wage (for 2017 it is 80.04 pesos) or 1,600,800 pesos or $77,221 US dollars using an exchange rate of 20.73 to 1 (using December 28, 2016 exchange rate). This must be documented with 12 months bank statements. It has been reported to us that in the past there was no minimum age limit on people applying for permanent visas but now many have reported that consulates are asking to see pension or retirement income in order to apply for the permanent visa or they are not giving them to people who are under 50 or 60 years old. Shop around as consulates have different internal guidelines and if you are in this situation it pays to make some calls.

You can apply for visas for your spouse (gay couples included) and children at the consulate at the same time or we can do it when you are here in Mexico once the primary applicant has their visa. Remember that in order to do this we will need birth / marriage certificates and apostilles (legalized copies for those from Canada or non Hague Convention countries).

Please be advised that the consulates might have their own special rules. Processing time varies from a few hours to a few days on average. We can consult with you prior to your trip to the consulate and then prepare you for finishing the process here in Mexico as well as advise you how to properly fill out the FMM form upon arrival so that there will be no processing delays. Clients have reported that the consulates in Laredo, Texas and Las Vegas, Nevada are some of the easier ones to deal with as Las Vegas only requires US$1,000 per month to get temporary. While the law says you must give 6 or 12 months bank statements, many consulates only ask for 3 to 6 months. Laredo requires an appointment be made online prior to going, we can help you make your appointment and go over documentation requirements so you do not have to make two trips.

VISA REQUIREMENTS AT THE NATIONAL IMMIGRATION INSTITUTE INSIDE MEXICO:
To qualify for the temporary visa they must show a monthly income of 400 times the minimum wage (for 2017 it is 80.04 pesos) or 32,016 pesos or $1,544 US dollars using an exchange rate of 20.73 to 1 (using December 28, 2016 exchange rate). This must be documented with 6 months bank statements. People who have liquid assets may qualify showing that they have maintained an average balance of 20,000 times the minimum wage (for 2017 it is 80.04 pesos) or 1,402,000 pesos or $95,374 US dollars using an exchange rate of 20.73 to 1 (using December 28, 2016 exchange rate). This must be documented with 12 months bank statements.

To qualify for the permanent visa they must show a monthly income of 500 times the minimum wage (for 2017 it is 80.04 pesos) or 40,020 pesos or $1,931 US dollars using an exchange rate of 20.73 to 1 (using December 28, 2016 exchange rate). This must be documented with 6 months bank statements. People who have liquid assets may qualify showing that they have maintained an average balance of 25,000 times the minimum wage (for 2017 it is 80.04 pesos) or 2,001,000 pesos or $96,526 US dollars using an exchange rate of 20.73 to 1 (using December 28, 2016 exchange rate). This must be documented with 12 months bank statements. Immigration has been applying a rule the past few years that in order to change from temporary to a permanent visa that you must show that you receive a pension or retirement income, even $1.00. This has effectively stopped many people from “jumping ahead” if they only have savings and do not receive any pension or retirement income, in these cases people must complete all 4 years as a temporary before going to permanent if for only financial reasons (not family related).

You can apply for visas for your spouse (gay couples included) and children at the consulate at the same time or we can do it when you are here in Mexico once the primary applicant has their visa. Remember that in order to do this we will need birth / marriage certificates and apostilles (legalized copies for those from Canada or non Hague Convention countries).

*2016 Note – Immigration has changed their position during the past year and now will deny renewals for temporary visas for people who entered Mexico with permission to work for a company and then change to be self employed. They are alleging that the same entry conditions do not exist. We feel this is a violation of the 5th Article of the Mexican Constitution as well as Human Rights so please plan accordingly if you are inside Mexico and wish to switch jobs.

People who find themselves within Mexico and due to health reasons cannot travel can get humanitarian visas if a doctor from a government clinic prepares a letter describing their situation and that they are unable to travel. Old age, forgetting to return, or having a junker car that will not make it to the border are not valid reasons.

Please be advised that the consulates might have their own special rules. People have reported that the Mexican Consulates in Laredo, Texas, Phoenix, Arizona and Las Vegas, Nevada are very lenient and have approved people for temporary visas with income as little as $1,000.00USD per month. Processing time varies from a few hours to a few days on average. We can consult with you prior to your trip to the consulate and then prepare you for finishing the process here in Mexico as well as advise you how to properly fill out the FMM form upon arrival so that there will be no processing delays.

The U.S. Consulate General in Guadalajara would like to inform the U.S. citizen community that American citizens who need to renew or add pages to their passports, do notarials or report a lost/stolen passport can meet with American Consulate staff to submit applications or to notarize documents during the staff’s monthly visit to the Lake Chapala Society and the American Legion Post 7. While the visits often fall on the first or second Wednesday of every month, not all do. The new dates for consular visits for the 2017 year are: January 11, February 01, March 01, April 5, May 17, June 7, July 12, August 2, September 13, October 4, November 8, and December 6.  We can also turn in your passport renewals to the US Consulate in Guadalajara if you are unable to go due to age or health reasons. They can be picked up afterwards during the consulate’s monthly visits or sent by Fedex.

The new times for consular services provided at the American Legion in Chapala will be from 9:30 am to 10:30 a.m., and at The Lake Chapala Society in Ajijic from 11:00 a.m. to 12:30 p.m.

Payments for Consular Services offered in the Lake Chapala area are done by bank check from Banamex in Chapala, Avenida Madero #222, made out to “United States Disbursing Officer”, no other forms of payment are accepted. If you go to the United State Consulate in Guadalajara then you may pay by credit card or cash in pesos or US Dollars.

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http://www.chapalalaw.com/immigration-2/ VISA REQUIREMENTS AT MEXICAN CONSULATES OUTSIDE MEXICO: To qualify for the temporary visa they must show a monthly income of 300 times the minimum wage

Miami consulate staff can be very difficult and if gay almost impossible.  From my web site: The amounts are per person but some consulates will accept lower financials for a spouse. Consulates v

Excuse me?  WTF does that mean?

This is such an excellent and informative post I am going to pin it for a while.  Please feel free to add further information or questions, pinning it just keeps it near the top of the subject list.

Thank you Spencer for this timely contribution!

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I am confused as to why post requirements for applying for temporary residency

within Mexico if one is required to apply only outside Mexico. Is it now just an

option rather than a requirement to apply outside the Country? Thanks for your

posting this, but please clarify, can a person now apply inside Mexico?

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Thanks Spencer. Many consulates are using a set amount to qualify and they are not using a calculator every day based on exchange rates. Consulate web sites will show the qualifying amounts. MX consulates in the US often use $1500 / $25000 and $2500 / $100,000 or close to those numbers. For PR most consulates will only accept pension sourced income vs other forms of income from employment. A few consulates also ask for a police report (wish they all did). As Spencer noted check at various consulates for the variables.

Happy New Year

Sonia

 

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I know in Canada, and probably many other countries, being outside the country is required because if people are turned down while in Canada, they would otherwise disappear into the underground. Waiting for an amnesty. I take it the eligibility is still based on money - not provable, in demand, specialist skills which Mexico really does need in many sectors. The U.S.A. seems to be heading towards eliminating (H1?) specialist workers. This could be  a gain for Mexico.

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If you renew late or immigration deems you cannot renew due to changes since you entered you will need to do a regularization and then financially qualify to be temporary.  It isnt common and it is much harder to qualify for than just leaving the country, applying at consulate and returning, I posted it so people can see the differences.

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Spencer, We are a same-sex married couple moving to Chapala. My social security is $1180/mo. (it was $1177) and this will be our only income. Our house is sold here and we are paying cash for a house there, leaving us sufficient $ in the bank to qualify. It was suggested we come as visitors and travel back NOB in several months to get our Temporary. My question- since it looks like I qualify now, should I try to get my Temporary when we are passing through Las Vegas or perhaps Tucson and then apply in Mexico for my spouse? Your help is appreciated as we are set to leave Oregon on January 18th.

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We are a couple who are reaching their 80's and would like our daughter and son-in-law to come and live with us.  Is there a special provision for direct relatives to be sponsored by their parents as they will be living with us.  They will sell their business and house and our son-in-law will have a pension.  Do we just apply at the immigration office for the forms?  Will my children receive a temporary visa and then have to apply for a permanent visa?  You help Spenser would be much appreciated.

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They should attempt to get Temporals up there first.  As they are grown I doubt you can sponsor them.

Spencer's charges for a consultation are very reasonable, you may want to call him and make an appointment.  If they are able to initiate the Temporal process up there, once they arrive he can help complete the process, again at very reasonable cost.

 

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Alternatively, one of them could possibly qualify for Residente Permantnete immediately, with the bank accounts in that one name. The spouse comes down as a tourist, but applies for a residency visa at INM in Mexico, under vincula familiar rules, as soon as the first spouse is issued the Residente Permanente card by INM.   If a non-Mexican car is brought down, it would have to be in the name of the “tourist“ and could be retained in Mexico for up to almost 4 years, if that person became Residente Temporal instead of Residente Permanente.

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One of you can get it based upon the 1100 income and then bring an apostilled marriage certificate and we can then do the other person here tagging onto the first person. 

 

Canadians multiply US Dollar amounts by 1.35% to get Canadian Dollar equivalent. 

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Yes but you will need to renew late, do a regularization and pay fines or leave the country day before expiration and also remove any foreign plated cars as at the end of the 4 years on temp they become illegal. 

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Hello!! Could you please help answering below question?

1. I have been living in Mexico since Dec-2013 and my 4th year Residente Temporal(FM3) expires in Dec-2017. Can I apply for residenente Permanente(FM2) 6 months before my current Residente Temporal(FM3) expires? That is in July-0217?

2. I have already lived here in Mexico for 3.5 years, if I get married now, can I apply for Residente Permanente(FM2) now or Should I have to wait for 2 more years?

Thank you so much.!

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No you need to apply 10 days before expiration if at the end of the 4 year temporary term. 

 

Marriage will have no bearing on your permanente with the facts you stated.

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Thanks. Today they said (Oficina Imigracion) You are right RVGringo. It was a rule in former times, not to leave Mexico for a long time...

By the Way:  Is it now more expensive to get FM 3 or Permanente. I mean, I heard from a Canadian, she now needs a confirmation from Canada, that she receieves 1800 Dollar income  or MORE a month....

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I got my Permanente in 2013, I had to show either a monthly income or a large enough bank account. My monthly income was not high enough, so I had to provide a bank or Brokerage statement. My account was in Mexico and met the amount required. Trouble is I don't remember how much was required in 2013. I think it was at least perhaps the equivalent of $200,000 US and I just barely had enough, sadly my account is much less now, but I have my permanente.

Sorry I can not be more helpful.

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2 hours ago, Carmen Alemania said:

Thanks. Today they said (Oficina Imigracion) You are right RVGringo. It was a rule in former times, not to leave Mexico for a long time...

By the Way:  Is it now more expensive to get FM 3 or Permanente. I mean, I heard from a Canadian, she now needs a confirmation from Canada, that she receieves 1800 Dollar income  or MORE a month....

Here are more accurate numbers: http://www.soniadiaz.mx/immigration---visas.html

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57 minutes ago, Sonia said:

Here are more accurate numbers: http://www.soniadiaz.mx/immigration---visas.html

And I received information direct from the embassy near me that if I dont have the required income and can show bank deposits as per requirement I will have no issue. I suggest you look at the revised rules from an embassy in Las Vegas. I went to another one but its the same.

https://consulmex.sre.gob.mx/lasvegas/index.php/ligadocumentacion/172-visa-residencia-permanente

https://consulmex.sre.gob.mx/lasvegas/index.php/ligadocumentacion/170-visa-residencia-temporal

 

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3 hours ago, michael2595 said:

And I received information direct from the embassy near me that if I dont have the required income and can show bank deposits as per requirement I will have no issue. I suggest you look at the revised rules from an embassy in Las Vegas. I went to another one but its the same.

https://consulmex.sre.gob.mx/lasvegas/index.php/ligadocumentacion/172-visa-residencia-permanente

https://consulmex.sre.gob.mx/lasvegas/index.php/ligadocumentacion/170-visa-residencia-temporal

 

The person quoted Canadian dollars for a Canadian at a MX consulate in Canada.

And on my web site: The amounts are per person but some consulates will accept lower financials for a spouse. Consulates vary and may use different amounts taking into account exchange rates but many will not. What I post here are the laws issued by Mexican Immigration. Consulates are not a part of Immigration. There will be variables at consulates and not total consistent. Some consulates want originals. I recommend you review your MX consulate web site. I am not responsible for those variables and the mood, knowledge, politics or skills of the person at the consulate.

PS Las Vegas is not an Embassy but rather a consulate. Consulates are not part of Inmigracion and do not always follow the law. The amounts based on multiples of minimum wage and I clearly state income, investments and home ownership based on processing thousands of visas. 
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