ned small Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 At a great rate of speed out of Chapala. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zextek Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 TOB post saying there is a bad accident in the Walmart parking lot after a truck came down the hill and wiped out a couple other vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ned small Posted October 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 5 Ambulances just came back to Chapala with their sirens going which means there are people in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvsdawgs Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 Accident at the intersection involving three cars and one water truck, two cars totally crushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneleigh Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 Watched it happen from Black Coffee. Water tanker apparently lost brakes, hit at least three cars, flipping one. Pregnant woman taken by ambulance, her husband in another. Awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 It's really bad. I drove past it about an hour ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomgates Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 Where were the 3 cars that we hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yo1 Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 Is that a pipa truck? When somebody posted water truck, I naturally thought of the bottled water truck from the other day. That whole intersection, with Walmart entrance/exits is a disaster, waiting to happen. Now it has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bennie2 Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 not the first time. there was a crash about 10 years ago, several people died (expats) right on that intersection. not safe around there, especially for pedestrians. walmart was the worst thing to happen. even worse than that, was adding that big highway. 2 mexicans were killed a few years ago: one walking across from telmex. the other on a bike passing the small floresta strip mall. one manicurist one gardener. (xmas & easter week). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpychimp Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 This was a bad one from the look of it. They really need to do something about that road. All I can think of is topes going a long way back to force the trucks ( and sadly everyone else ) to slow way down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpsca Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 I saw the pipa truck coming down hill - lost his brakes and kept speeding up. A minute later I was on the libramento making a right and a large van was on it's side crushed against the Walmart side of the cement blockade. I couldn't see the pipa truck because it obviously jumped over the cement median and into the Walmart parking lot. People were in the intersection trying to get people out of the van but I moved on so as to not block traffic. Bomberos were coming in from the West through Ajijic with their sirens on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 A large truck coming down the libramiento went off into the bushes on the right just before the carretera last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo1 Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 If a truck loses his brakes, vibradores aren't going to slow him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Saltos Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Amazing how many trucks lose their brakes here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappysmarket Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I assume the driver fled the scene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jguerin Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Let's think about the people who were injured in the accident! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolina Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I was at the scene of this accident for about 45 minutes, from right after it occurred. Worst accident I've ever seen. There were damaged and mangled vehicles in various places and vehicle pieces and parts strewn across the intersection. As best I could tell amidst all the chaos, there were at least 4 or 5 vehicles involved, including a van flipped on its side off the road above the Walmart parking lot, a crushed car also on the wide shoulder just west of the van, and the tanker and another crushed car which ended up actually down in the Walmart lot. Many other cars there so it was hard to tell how many were actually part of the original event. There was a person laying in the middle of the intersection, and others still in each crushed car. After some minutes, the emergency vehicles began arriving -- police, ambulances, bomberos, etc. In one of the photos above, it shows where the tanker truck and the one crushed car were latched together. No sight of the truck driver. Don't know if he might have been off to the side injured somewhere. There was a woman in that crushed small white car. After what seemed like a long time, they got her out and onto a stretcher and then got her into one of the ambulances. I think many of the injured were being tended to on the pavement, or even still in their vehicles, before they were taken away eventually in ambulances. It was upsetting and sad. I am still thinking about it all and praying for all the victims and for all the many emergency personnel who were there on site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 One of the injured was Dra. Berenice Martinez, the vet. We don't know how bad she is at this point. We are praying for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolina Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 OMG! I had just come from a longish visit to Dra. Berenice with my dog and was cutting thru the Centro Laguna shpg cntr on my walk back home when I heard the crashes and then proceeded over to the intersection! She is such a lovely young woman with a great vet practice. There were so many vehicles involved and so many injured that I never noticed her in the chaos. I will keep praying for her and all the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaPeach Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Wookie said: One of the injured was Dra. Berenice Martinez, the vet. We don't know how bad she is at this point. We are praying for everyone. According to her sister she has a few broken ribs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Thanks for your post Georgia Peach. I have been so very worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnMama Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 4 hours ago, El Saltos said: Amazing how many trucks lose their brakes here! On I-70 in Colorado, there were several emergency turn-off lanes for trucks with overheated breaks to slow down and plow into sand barrels. Happened all too often, especially in wet or icy weather when flat-lander truckers didn't understand about very long downhill grades. Going eastbound into Denver I never drove in the slow lane. Truck brakes are tricky things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolina Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 There was an article on the front page of last week's Guad Reporter, talking about another "close call with tragedy" recently where a truck's brakes failed on the same downhill approach. Also talked about considerations of installing an escape ramp. Maybe, after this horrible multi-vehicle disaster, an escape ramp WILL be installed. I sure hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 The problem isn't the road, the problem is the far too often overloaded and under maintained junk trucks that are allowed to operate on the roads. Did you know they've been caught frequently with up to twice the legal weight? Did you know the drivers rarely are trained or qualified to drive them? Are you aware of just how bad the safety record of Mexican trucks is? Why do you think practically every road in this country with heavy truck traffic is disintegrating? Aside from the usual poor construction, few roads can take the kind of overloads these trucks are allowed to get away with. Put this together with lousy maintenance and it is no wonder we are having so many accidents just at this one intersection due to trucks with failed brakes. Remember that nearly new toll road between Durango and Mazatlan that was touted by the government as being state of the art and a wonderful piece of construction? I rode it three weeks ago out of Durago. It is literally falling apart in only two years. Huge potholes everywhere. Coincidentally it is loaded with trucks and of course there are no truck scales. It was so bad I got off early and used the free road. Between the trucks and the potholes the thing was a nightmare to drive. How about those double trailers? Are you aware that they are "home made" cobbled together in shops because no manufacturer makes them here? Care to guess how many have really adequate, properly working brakes? Did you know that 116 traffic deaths per month are attributed just to these alone? http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/double-semi-concerns-taken-up-by-congress/ Give these trucks and their drivers a lot of room when you're on the road. They are death on wheels and just one more example of how failed the government is in this country. There's a good reason why the U.S. doesn't want these trucks operating on their roads and we see it in front of Walmart repeatedly. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-09-27/regulator-said-to-look-other-way-on-unsafe-mexican-trucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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