joanne Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Am considering spending some time at Lake Chapala in the relatively near future. When I was last there, every place I lived seemed to have major dog (mostly barking ) issues. Lots of strays as well IMO. Have either of these problems gotten any better in recent years? There was (then) seemingly little recourse to deal with this. Thank you. PS- It depends on your neighborhood, I suppose, but just curious about the situation there in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Mexican people, who are the vast majority here, have different attitudes about dogs and cats than us "foreign devils". A lot depends on different income levels, and how or where they were brought up. The new administration, seems to imply that in general, things have got a little over the top. They are doing something about it but only time will tell. Notice that they made sure the sign sign were in English, as well as a Spanish version of course. Maybe someday they will hire a dogcatcher here and build a pound - but don't count on it. http://www.theguadalajarareporter.com/index.php/news/news/lake-chapala/47079-chapala-government-promotes-tighter-pet-control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Depending on location, there can be a lot of loose dogs, barking and dog mess. Pay close attention when you decide where to live here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexy Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 How long ago was it that you were here? Animal welfare groups and just plain everyday animal lovers have done a great deal to handle and treat the misery of homeless and sick cats and dogs and give them a chance to live happier lives. There are fewer miserable strays than there used to be years ago. However there are barkers and you just might move in next door to one or two. What exactly is your worry? That strays and/or barking dogs will make your time here unpleasant? Why not plan to go somewhere you'll be sure not to be bothered and inconvenienced. Lexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 There are 42 dogs living in a two block area around my house. I sleep with the TV turned down low as white noise to block out the barking. It usually works pretty well. Unless you pick an area to live that has an enforced no barking rule or limit to the number of dogs, Mexican neighborhoods and barking dogs go hand in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhite1948 Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 There are some well-intentioned expats who adopt multiple dogs but do not bother to train them or refrain them from barking. Near me, the expat dogs are much more of a barking issue than the Mexican owned dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dichosalocura Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I live in downtown Chapala and the incessant barking of dogs is just a way of life here. In any of the villages it will be the same. I would assume that living in the fraccionamientos like Raquet Club or Chula Vista or any of the ones further out from the villages life will be much much more quieter in regards to the barking of dogs or for life in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Berca Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Have never seen so many dogs and dog lovers in one place in my life, including me. Dogs bark. Might want to reconsider your plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 When in Merida and Oaxaca we noticed very very few dogs in the city and no messes. They have strict laws about dogs needing to be on leashes and people just don't take there dogs around town. Have to say it was kind of nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Yes Joey, definition of Lakeside :......villages of barking dogs . Well known phenomenon. I agree with BWhite, many well-intentioned expats have misbehaved dogs ...that is our experience here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joanne Posted November 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 There are 42 dogs living in a two block area around my house. I sleep with the TV turned down low as white noise to block out the barking. It usually works pretty well. Unless you pick an area to live that has an enforced no barking rule or limit to the number of dogs, Mexican neighborhoods and barking dogs go hand in hand. Is there such a place that has "an enforced no barking rule or limit to the number of dogs" other than an expensive, super posh gated community that you are aware of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Do not bet on "posh" gated community. We rented too winters in mostly expats gated community and the dogs barked day and night there also. Sometimes absent owners leaving their pets to the service people who came to feed them once a day and the dogs(many to one property) cried all night. Quite sad . Felt so sorry for them. Interestingly we are in Mexican community this year (no ex-pat in the sight) and no barking dogs. Cannot say that about roosters though :-) You cannot guarantee anything here, people come and go and so do their pets and businesses. Quiet neighbourhood today might not be there tomorrow and vice versa. Most of us adapt. I have to edit this note. Spoke too soon. We do have couple of barking dogs in the neighbourhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbviajero Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 The neighbor to the left of us decided to start collecting stray dogs,she has 14 now,the neighbor in front of us picked up 2 and put them on her roof,the neighbor behind us runs a puppy mill,they all BARK,their owners are all single women of a certain age and they are Mexican and they are nacas and pendejas who have no respect for their neighbors. I used to like dogs,not anymore.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semalu Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Anyone who has issues with noise should not consider Mexico as a place tof residence or otherwise. Noise is an intgral part of the wonderful cacophany that is life down here. Love it or leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbviajero Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Anyone who has issues with noise should not consider Mexico as a place tof residence or otherwise. Noise is an intgral part of the wonderful cacophany that is life down here. Love it or leave it.Tell that to my wife who is Mexican and my neighbors who are also Mexican and dislike all the barking dogs we are surrounded by as much as I do,by the way we were here long before the influx of barkers came in.Noise is one thing,constantly barking dogs is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 cbviajero you really have my sympathy. A dog lover I am not. I can't figure out this obsession with an animal that barks constantly, craps everywhere, really is a joke as a burglary preventive and without doubt is a major urban nuisance. But it seems to be the norm in this country, go figure. What really grates on me is all this energy spent by the expat community on "rescuing" and housing dogs while so many children here are needy. I just don't understand their sense of priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbviajero Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 MC,I am pretty noise tolerant,so is my wife,but these barkers and their stupid inconsiderate owners are a bit much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Is there such a place that has "an enforced no barking rule or limit to the number of dogs" other than an expensive, super posh gated community that you are aware of? I thought of La Floresta as an example. I'm sure there are other fracc's that enforce dog limits. Le Parque I think has a 2 small dog limit. Not super posh, although that's up to individual interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Well-trained and properly cared-for dogs do not bark, for longer than a brief moment, and typically only when excited. Dogs left outside all day will learn to bark, and when not trained otherwise, it will become their standard behaviour. It is the irresponsible owners who are to blame, not the dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joanne Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 cbviajero you really have my sympathy. A dog lover I am not. I can't figure out this obsession with an animal that barks constantly, craps everywhere, really is a joke as a burglary preventive and without doubt is a major urban nuisance. But it seems to be the norm in this country, go figure. What really grates on me is all this energy spent by the expat community on "rescuing" and housing dogs while so many children here are needy. I just don't understand their sense of priorities. Well said, Mainecoons. Cats make MUCH better companions, far less bother. I can't figure why anyone would want a creature that basically just barks, eats, sleeps and deficates( and is a lot of bother even in the rare instances that it does behave IMO.) Very good, informative answers to my post/thread. Sounds pretty much status quo for the dog situation. Thank you all who participated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semalu Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 .... I can't figure why anyone would want a creature that basically just barks, eats, sleeps and deficates( and is a lot of bother even in the rare instances that it does behave IMO.) .... LOL That description could fit a few people too....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbviajero Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 LOL That description could fit a few people too....... Yeah,but they usually don't bark at every passersby or at 4 in the morning for no reason at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joanne Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Well-trained and properly cared-for dogs do not bark, for longer than a brief moment, and typically only when excited. Dogs left outside all day will learn to bark, and when not trained otherwise, it will become their standard behaviour. It is the irresponsible owners who are to blame, not the dogs. There is an element of truth here, especially about the owners who are to blame. Good, caring, dilligent owners frequently have properly behaved dogs, some of which make fairly decent pets. I wish I had encountered more of the aforementioned "dilligent owners" when I lived there full time. The barking/stray situation was outrageous with little to no recourse to have anything done about it. Prolonged exposure to dog barking can actually create serious health problems in humans over time due to the body's frequent production of adrenaline due to the "fight or flight" response. Some of us are more sensitive to it than others, I'm told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Yeah,but they usually don't bark at every passersby or at 4 in the morning for no reason at all! Yeah, but remember that a lot of people here keep dogs as watch dogs. They want them to bark at passersby and even encourage them. And 4 in the morning, usually if you listen closely there are dogs barking far away that you might barely hear, but the dog next door has to sing back to them. It all makes sense to the dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnMama Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 I must admit I feel sorry for anyone who has never been loved by a well trained, intelligent, obedient dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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