Irish Gal Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 The above was part of a posting on my Facebook page. Seems that all but basic care through IMSS will incur extra charges as shown in this chart. Over $5000 pesos as a daily rate in hospital! Has anyone else with current knowledge of IMSS heard about these extra charges? Of course, our IMSS renewal is coming up and we have to make an informed decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercasa Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 The costs are actually higher! Here is the first part of the 2015 rates TIPO DE SERVICIO COSTO UNITARIO ACTUALIZADO AL 2015 (pesos) ATENCIÓN EN UNIDADES DE PRIMER NIVEL Consulta de Medicina Familiar 599 Consulta Dental (Estomatología) 577 Atención de Urgencias 519 Curaciones 599 Estudio de Laboratorio Clínico 80 Estudio de Radiodiagnóstico 203 Ultrasonografía 203 Traslado en Ambulancia 506 Sesión de Hemodiálisis 4,106 Sesión de Quimioterapia 4,652 Intervención de Tococirugía 6,803 Día paciente en Hospitalización 6,731 Intervención Quirúrgica 2,820 Sesión de Medicina Física y Rehabilitación 462 Terapia Psicológica 536 Estudio/Procedimiento de Endoscopía 1,034 But.... who do these rates apply to? The average gringo who has IMSS? No! You can all breathe a sigh of relief. These fees are for people who receive services and are not covered or are fees that will be charged to an employer whose employee is hurt and they didnt provide the required coverage or who were improperly signed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Most of the hospitals carry this info and is posted in their receiving area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercasa Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 It is a ripoff, higher rates than Puerta de Hierro and San Javier, same doctors that took out a babys good eye instead of infected one and then lied about it and doctors who cut off another babys penis instead of cutting umbilical cord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Gal Posted July 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Thank you, Intercasa!! My husband spent one night in Puerta de Hierro last week and it wasn't anywhere near what IMSS is charging according to the schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 IMSS financial problems are no secret. This strikes me as another manifestation of that. As I understand it, the local IMSS pretty much won't take expats, using various ploys to deny enrollment. Is that still correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyfull Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 IMSS financial problems are no secret. This strikes me as another manifestation of that. As I understand it, the local IMSS pretty much won't take expats, using various ploys to deny enrollment. Is that still correct? I hope so. Us foreigners should not be taking this valuable resource from the Mexicans who really need it. It frys me to hear of expats with IMSS, many of whom can afford private insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Don't confuse IMSS with Seguro Popular. IMSS is supposed to be a self sustaining operation and it is supposed to be available to all legal residents. If so, I think we should expect the government to follow the law and not illegally discriminate against some residents. Tell me have you priced private health insurance here? Are you aware that people over 70 can't get it at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bennie2 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 people can die waiting for the IMSS to take care of them. i know people who have chronic irreversable conditions caused by them. you dont want that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldyfeliz Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I have recently received very good Medical Care from IMSS. A PaceMaker installed at IMSS Centro. Emergency at #14 and transferred to Centro after testing and monitoring. My advice is , in an emergency to go direct to Centro. The expertise is such that patients are sent from all parts of Mexico for treatment. Responding to the comments about Expats. I have been a Payee for 12 years. IMSS is primarily supported by employees of Companies , ie Walmart, Construction, and employees of Companies participating in a Capitalist Society. IMSS is operated as a Socialist Medical facility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 The costs are actually higher! Here is the first part of the 2015 rates TIPO DE SERVICIO COSTO UNITARIO ACTUALIZADO AL 2015 (pesos) ATENCIÓN EN UNIDADES DE PRIMER NIVEL Consulta de Medicina Familiar 599 Consulta Dental (Estomatología) 577 Atención de Urgencias 519 Curaciones 599 Estudio de Laboratorio Clínico 80 Estudio de Radiodiagnóstico 203 Ultrasonografía 203 Traslado en Ambulancia 506 Sesión de Hemodiálisis 4,106 Sesión de Quimioterapia 4,652 Intervención de Tococirugía 6,803 Día paciente en Hospitalización 6,731 Intervención Quirúrgica 2,820 Sesión de Medicina Física y Rehabilitación 462 Terapia Psicológica 536 Estudio/Procedimiento de Endoscopía 1,034 But.... who do these rates apply to? The average gringo who has IMSS? No! You can all breathe a sigh of relief. These fees are for people who receive services and are not covered or are fees that will be charged to an employer whose employee is hurt and they didnt provide the required coverage or who were improperly signed up. Confusing. So people who belong (pay, subscribe, whatever) to IMSS do or do not have to pay these fees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryS Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 read what spencer said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcscats Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Two programs at IMSS one is like workmans comp in US. We don't qualify for that one unless you get it from an employer but the other volunteer program doesn't cover drugs for example. Some of us were put on the workmans like program when they should have been put on the volunteer program which as I said has different rules. I believe this is the source of the confusion a year or so ago. So we actually have three public programs two with IMSS and one with SP. You cannot have IMSS and SP. I believe you need some cash as none of these programs is what I call all inclusive. Not everybody will be happy with any of these programs and I strongly suggest you talk to folks who have used these programs for serious problems. We decided to use a high deductible policy for my wife and basically it is partial self insurance but we are healthy and have a long history of being healthy. This is not a good solution for marginal cash flow folks as you need cash to back up these high deductible policies if you get seriously sick. Good Luck folks! All this is a mouthful and my wifes solution is not for everyone. I am grateful for my NOB employer that I retired from as I still have normal low deductible insurance at a good price but I know this is rare from employers anymore. Stay healthy folks!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 read what spencer said. Spencer said "These fees are for people who receive services and are not covered". What does not covered mean? If individuals pay the yearly fee of 4,000 or whatever are they covered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercasa Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 This chart really doesnt apply to foreigners or only would if, for example someone lied on their questions about a preexisting condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRPJR Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I hope so. Us foreigners should not be taking this valuable resource from the Mexicans who really need it. It frys me to hear of expats with IMSS, many of whom can afford private insurance. I absolutely agree! This country has very limited resources for health care and social services with out us contributing to he burden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldyfeliz Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I do not accept the statement that I am contributing to a burden. Opinions on other people should not be on this board, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVGRINGO Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 If you are an IMSS enrolee, current and paid up, there are no fees. All of this from a facebook posting with no explanation, argued about by the grossly misinformed and chronically confused. Amusing, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I absolutely agree! This country has very limited resources for health care and social services with out us contributing to he burden.At least foreigners signed up for IMSS are paying a substantial yearly fee. Those signed up with Seguro Popular are paying nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVGRINGO Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 It sounds like some folks here are in favor of segregation; their “morality“ vs the law of the land. Ugh! I suppose that they also wish that those over 65 or 70 would simply succumb to their ailments without the benefit of medical care, since they are uninsurable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryS Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I think they should be able to pay for their medical care and not be a burden on others fo their care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumofabit Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I think they should be able to pay for their medical care and not be a burden on others fo their care. IMSS isn't free, there is a yearly premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bennie2 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 say you pay in for several years & never have used it? say several 1000 expats do the same. thats good $ for IMSS. later if you need them for emerngency, they will take care of you. thats the least they can do. the govt would not make this available to expats unless it was a winwin. dont be naive. personally i wouldnt use them, but thats me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 It sounds like some folks here are in favor of segregation; their “morality“ vs the law of the land. Ugh! I suppose that they also wish that those over 65 or 70 would simply succumb to their ailments without the benefit of medical care, since they are uninsurable. When some people don´t like social democracy societies and their humanitarian approach to all participants helping others in it with public funds raised by all people contributing to the fund then I presume they are too involved in themselves to consider a common good as a better way to deal with medical care. This seems to stick in their craw. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Amazing, every time the IMSS or SP surfaces so we have this broken record...folks it is what it is.. you have the option, to join or not to join. Please do not be judgmental about other folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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