Alpha1 Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 We registered at SP one week ago. Made many copies of the affiliation page. As far as I understood, we need to see a doctor within three months of registration. So we went to the SP clinic in San Antonio, today. The nurse there, asked us both if we were diabetic, or had high blood pressure...no examination at all. We answered "no" and "no". she then gave us a booklet each, in which she filled out our names, and address. ...no policy number. We asked to see the doctor, as we were under the impression that this was necessary to validate the policy. She replied that it was not necessary. Can someone please comment as to whether or not we are legally in the system. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy2013 Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 I was under the impression that this is like welfare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldyfeliz Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 you are wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 I was under the impression that this is like welfare This is basic coverage for all residents, including foreigners. Supposedly, you pay according to your income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrbower Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 We were told the same thing about getting into the system but it was bad info. We went to the clinic where we were informed that as long as we have the sheet of paper that we got at sign-up in Chapala then we are in the system for when we actually need a doctor. The next time we were in Chapala, I stopped in at the Seguro Popular where we signed up and they confirmed that we are good to go. You need to always have that sheet with you when you go to the clinic and I think they need a copy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 I was under the impression that this is like welfare Close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosfreed Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 SP is funded from sales tax, we all pay it and we are all eligible, the only requirement is an FM, it doesn't need to be permanente. I live in Jococtepec, the cilnic service there is excellent, the Doctor speaks English. I make an appointment and only wait about a half hour. My health and my husband Richard's has improved greatly since we registered there. I did try going to one of the Hospital Civils in Guad but waiting 5 hours and still didn't look close to seeing anyone so I left. I decided that it is better to pay the Lakeside doctors fee of around 600 pesos if I need a specialist. The selection of meds in the clinic famacia isn't large but they have basics, statins, blood pressure, etc. It has cut my meds bill by half. You only need the usual documents,passport, FM, photocopies of both, registration only takes a moment,there are no precondition problems, and you are eligible at any age. There is no charge whatsoever. I am a Brit and used to National Health, I am delighted to be covered for basic health and also major health problems and accidents at no cost I would highly recommend that anyone who lives here and is tired of paying large insurance premiums to get registered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles100 Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 So we went to the SP clinic in San Antonio, today. Where is the SP clinic in San Antonio? I went to the Chapala clinic but you have to line up at 6 am to be able to get an appointment to see a doctor the same day. That's a bit early. What time would one have to go to the San Antonio clinic to get an appointment the same day? I'm in Riberas so I don't know which one I should go to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jistme Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 ros..... I agree with you re. the long wait to see a doctor at the S.P. hospital in Guad. We had to stay overnight in order to be in line by 7.am. We are now going to try the Clinic in Joco that you mentioned. I'm assuming you're not referring to the recently opened new hospital in Joco ? Can you please give some directions as to the location of the Joco clinic? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha1 Posted July 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Thank you everyone for your replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnMama Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 ros..... I agree with you re. the long wait to see a doctor at the S.P. hospital in Guad. We had to stay overnight in order to be in line by 7.am. We are now going to try the Clinic in Joco that you mentioned. I'm assuming you're not referring to the recently opened new hospital in Joco ? Can you please give some directions as to the location of the Joco clinic? Thanks. I have been told you must reside in Jocotopec to use the Joco clinic but the hospital will be available to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phxfunguy Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Where is the SP clinic in San Antonio? I went to the Chapala clinic but you have to line up at 6 am to be able to get an appointment to see a doctor the same day. That's a bit early. What time would one have to go to the San Antonio clinic to get an appointment the same day? I'm in Riberas so I don't know which one I should go to. If you become a patient of Dr. Scherman who holds clinic on Saturdays and Sundays at the Chapala clinic, you will be given an appointment time for each visit. He is the only doctor who does it this way, otherwise it's the old lineup routine and the patients do get there early because after so many people, they cut the line off and say come back another day. Dr. Scherman does speak fair English but if you have a more complicated history to relate or are a person who has a difficult time understanding English that is heavily accented or not in the usual grammar that you've heard all your life, it would be best to take a translator along. My friend who goes to him for diabetes care plus several other diagnoses was in that situation but now that he's more familiar with the doctor, I haven't had to go to interpret. Sometimes he calls me on his call phone during the appointment for clarification when he's not sure and that works fine too. He is very pleased with the care and the reduction is his prescription cost has helped him out a lot. The SP pharmacy is right around the corner from the clinic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shira Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 The Ajijic clinic is worthless. Anyone who has Seguro Popular can go to the Jocotopec hospital. People without SP can also go but you will have to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 The Ajijic clinic is worthless. Anyone who has Seguro Popular can go to the Jocotopec hospital. People without SP can also go but you will have to pay. However, if you've had a horrible household accident at night and are bleeding profusely, the Ajijic Clinic can be a good choice if you live nearby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhorne Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 The San Antonio SP clinic is on the side street where Sunrise Cafe is. You go almost to the end and it is on the left... a one-story white building with a white fence around it. I've been for a bad stomach problem, spoke to a young English speaking female doctor who also examined me, was given free meds and was feeling better later the same day. This is socialized medicine free for all Mexicans and free to expats over 60 years old. If under 60, there is a charge, but it is not a large amount. I had gone to Clinica Ajijic the day before, which was Sunday,for the same problem. I was examined and given an IV and a prescription for a whole slew of medications. The clinic charged me 700 pesos and the meds were another 1200 pesos. When I wasn't feeling any better the next day is when I went to SP. The SP doctor looked at the list of meds the Clinica Ajijic doctor had prescribed, said she didn't agree with them and gave me a script for different meds. Again, the SP portion of this was totally free to me and I was feeling better almost right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Miller Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 I have Seguro Popular in Joco.. I am wondering if the coverage is good in all of Jalisco or even all of Mexico for that matter. I am in perfect health but we will be travelling to the border in the next couple of months and if one of us became ill or injured what then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezzie Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 It is my understanding that Seguro Popular is a national system and that you can go to any "Centro de Salud" anywhere in the country for basic treatments. If the problems are more severe or you need to see a specialist or have tests, the hospitals that are accessible to SP patients are limited (so far) and seem to be from one end of the scale to the other as far as wait times, etc. The SP system is still "under construction" from what I have been able to figure out. Remember, this is a "social" medical system and along with that comes it's faults. At least we can still access an excellent private care network here in Mexico if the need for faster and more comprehensive treatment arises (unlike Canada's system). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osoprehistorico Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 I signed up for SP in Chapala and was told that my primary care would be where I lived. A question: Have andy of you SP folks had need to the Joco based hospital and what are your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floradude Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 I have Mexican friends in PV who have Seguro. The mother needs radiation and was told she would need to come to Guadalajara. Where in GDL is the Hospital Seguro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 I have Mexican friends in PV who have Seguro. The mother needs radiation and was told she would need to come to Guadalajara. Where in GDL is the Hospital Seguro? The 2 largest ones are the Hospital Civil in Guadalajara and the Hospital General de Zapopan, in Zapopan. They are 100% medical care facilities. I noticed some poster here say Seguro Popular was a basic medical provider. Not so. You might have to travel but they are 100% with their "RED" [web] of hospitals and specialists and are 95% with surgeries and proceedures in March 2011. Any member is entitled to all their services. Expect decent medical care in Jalisco and other industrial states where money is made and spent. Google Translation: "GUADALAJARA, JALISCO (03 / MAR / 2011) . - Jalisco has 1,976 000 Seguro Popular affiliates, but is expected to end the current administration with a goal reached 2.7 million people in the program, announces the national commissioner Social Protection in Health, Solomon Chertorivsky Woldenberg. During his visit to the city, the official, accompanied by the Secretary of Health Jalisco (SSJ), Alfonso Petersen Farah, yesterday a tour of the Maternity Hospital of Guadalajara and the facilities of the hospital of San Martin de las Flores in Tlaquepaque . It also inaugurated the Macromódulo Affiliation to Seguro Popular, located on Calzada Independencia, in the Olympic Colonia. The latter has 12 service windows and more for the disabled, with hours from 8:00 to 20:00 hours. The procedure is straightforward and has a free photocopying. The day care capacity is 270 people (located between the two Civil Hospital of Guadalajara and is accessible via Macrobús). For more information contact the offices of the People's Insurance in Jalisco, phone 36,242,116. The official said that Jalisco is one of the states with better assortment of medical affiliates, above the national average. Across the country, the program is 44.3 million people, and is planned to reach universal health coverage, equivalent to 51 million members. "The Popular Insurance is a right of Mexicans, is not a charity or a handout, and the instrument is its policy." He warned that regarding payment to hospitals, derived from services to members lend to the program is the responsibility of each medical institution record cases handled so that the Seguro Popular make prompt payment, which does not exceed one month medium. As it relates to good distribution of drugs, he said, it is the responsibility of each entity, as are those who choose to suppliers. "We are covering 80% of supply nationwide. Of course, a medicine that is not delivered, is a person that you are not guaranteed your attention; it is an issue of the pharmaceutical industry, but what we need most is that who was not given the prescription, you do know so we can work on it. " The challenge Seguro Popular covers 100% of the basic health needs and 95% of the care that require hospitalization, as well as other highly specialized. Although the catalog of diseases was recently expanded, to include issues such as testicular cancer and heart ailments, one of the biggest challenges is getting to pay for kidney transplants because of kidney failure, either, immunosuppression. Yet Solomon insisted Chertorivsky Woldenberg prevention over cure, because 60% of the cases of renal failure is due to diabetes." http://www.informador.com.mx/jalisco/2011/274920/6/inauguran-macromodulo-del-seguro-popular-en-la-calzada.htm Seguro Popular had 47,000,000 enrolled at the end of 2013. IMSS had 59.000.000 enrolled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryS Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 It Dosen't cover all procedures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Berca Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Apparently, a mere 95%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezzie Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 I would challenge the 95% figure. Doesn't cover many things I have personally checked into including back surgery, tendonitis. You may want to have a "Plan B" if you are on SP since you could arrive at a triage during an emergency and find out SP won't cover the cost of your medical emergency. By law, clinics and hospitals have a responsibility to stabilize, not treat you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryS Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 They don't cover a lot of drugs and if they do they might be out. The 95 percent is wrong. Another problem is getting admited to the hospital because the shortage of beds, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Berca Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 So, Alan's post about Seguro Popular is more hype than reality? The 100% and 95% figures quoted in the article are incorrect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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