HarryB Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 I've always been told east west has right of way in Ajijic. That means nothing. Unmarked rule is actually first into the intersection. That means nothing. Real rule is biggest goes first. When I drive my Terrain with police bumpers(burros, I think) I get courtesy. When I drive the MGB or Triumph nada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcelonaman Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 so far there are THREE different theories. give way to right. east west, north south.and that's justs NOBs ideas. no wonder there are complaints about the standard of driving. what about the day trippers from Guadalajara what rules do they obey? no wonder there are accidents. with caution is the best way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Ha. You've driven here... ignoring the rules is the rule, especially Tapatios. (Most, not all, but most) think of this place as a backwater hicktown. They walk as full families spread across any road and don't think to move out of the way of traffic. In Riberas, Chula Vista, and the like, they drive in the middle of the street or on the wrong side completely, depending. They turn off the highway far too soon, blocking your vision of oncoming traffic. When moving onto the highway, they don't stay in their lane to make a leftie: they pull way over to the left, again blocking my own view of the road. I would have to guess there are plenty of responsible drivers around, too, because there has to be some reason there aren't a hundred smackups a day here... which means the good ones are always on the lookout for the dumb ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbviajero Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 what about the day trippers from Guadalajara what rules do they obey?The same ones they obey in Guadalajara... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 just like the foreigners come up with the guy o the right has priority or the north south has priority. Since we have 3 groups of people who basically do not communicate it would be good to know what is being considered correct by the people and the transito when there are no signs. At lease the local Mexicans and the foreigners would be in sink, the tourists will do what tourists do .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryB Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 yesterday I was having lunch at Gossips which is on a northbound street only bordering the carretera . There is an arrow sign on the corner, admittedly on a tree. A gringo in a gold late model cadillac with foreign plates torn down the one way street headed south. How he didn't have a head on is beyond me. The tapitios aren't the only $%&/()s. $%&/()s is a bad word. I was being kind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbviajero Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Ha. You've driven here... ignoring the rules is the rule, especially Tapatios. (Most, not all, but most) think of this place as a backwater hicktown. Not really,most Tapatios think of the Lake Chapala area as a convenient day trip destination for their families. Frankly the constant complaints from gringo/expats on this forum about Mexicans from Guadalajara visiting lakeside rub me wrong.Whose country is it anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 So be rubbed. The reason a lot of gringos complain about the attitude of a lot of visitors from Guadalajara is because a lot of them deserve our complaints. What the heck difference does it make what country we are talking about? A jerk is a jerk. You'll see us complaining about gringos, too... in fact, based on some of the threads here with a select group constantly and repeatedly trying to "norhternize" everything, probably a lot more. But I digress. Here we go again, turning a thread into another soap-box for people to critize the posters' opinions, right or wrong. Not a discussion anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcelonaman Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 no one it seems is sure what the give way law is. how embarrassing for us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Excellent point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Frankly if you are not familiar with an area it is very easy to miss some of the signs especially if you start havingto look at trees. ...If they were in a consistant location either painted, glued, nailed or whatever it would be an improvement. Some people se them and ignore them and some people do not see them because they are busy looking for something else. I know I get confused about the two ways versus the one way and I have been there for 13 years It has to be confusing for people who are not familiar with the area Tapatios or others.. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Harry can you ask Hector what the rules or customs about priorities are in Ajijic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Do not be embarrassed Barcelonaman it seems that O ONe seems to know the rules. It is a miracle we do not have more accidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryB Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 I doubt he can add anything substantive, but, I'll ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappysmarket Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 One of the reasons you tend to see fewer accidents in Mexico than the US is actually due to this aspect of not knowing who has the "Right of Way". Everyone become more cautious instead of feeling that you have the right to proceed. What if the other guy doesn't know that? BAM! One thing is for sure, pedestrians NEVER have the right of way in Mexico. The biggest vehicle has the right of way, if they are equal the more aggressive driver has the right of way. Red lights, stop signs and one way street signs are merely suggestions. Drive as if you never have the right of way and never, ever give anyone the finger. That is a big no-no here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 One of the reasons you tend to see fewer accidents in Mexico than the US is actually due to this aspect of not knowing who has the "Right of Way". Everyone become more cautious instead of feeling that you have the right to proceed. What if the other guy doesn't know that? BAM! One thing is for sure, pedestrians NEVER have the right of way in Mexico. The biggest vehicle has the right of way, if they are equal the more aggressive driver has the right of way. Red lights, stop signs and one way street signs are merely suggestions. Drive as if you never have the right of way and never, ever give anyone the finger. That is a big no-no here. Very true. If you drive as pappysmarket does you will be aware and never asume anything and drive as if you are always avoiding a scrap on your car. Especially avoid people driving vehicles already with scraps on all sides and corners. They are the real nasty ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Sorry but here many peope pass in blind curves crossing the double yellowline, this is how you can tell a Chiapas driver versus an out of state guy so I would not imitate some of the locals in some places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floradude Posted March 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 The driving laws are made by the State of Jalisco and not different for every village. According to the law of Jalisco the car on the right has the right of way. Gobierno Del Estado De Jalisco Secretaria de Validad Y Transporte Cuales son los vehiculos que tienen prelacion de paso? Hacer alto total y ceder el paso al de la derecha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 The driving laws are made by the State of Jalisco and not different for every village. According to the law of Jalisco the car on the right has the right of way. Gobierno Del Estado De Jalisco Secretaria de Validad Y Transporte Cuales son los vehiculos que tienen prelacion de paso? Hacer alto total y ceder el paso al de la derecha. It also states come to a full stop, then yield the R of W. As if anyone is going to come to a full stop at an uncontroled intersection. I have yet to see that happen and as most experienced drivers state, drive as if you are trying to follow the way others drive to avoid an accident and rules are just suggestions. You can follow traffic laws here and get rearended quite easily. Be sensible in your decisions when on the road is my thinking at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monessen Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 I just have to tell this funny and scary story. I teach ESL and one of the Mexican students often insists on driving me to Chapala (I'd rather take the bus). I mentioned one day that we were going through stop signs and asked how people knew when to stop and, at an uno a uno sign, who goes first. "Stop signs? What stop signs?" He really NEVER noticed the signs along Chapala streets!! Holy Toledo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floradude Posted March 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 I thought I posted this earlier today but ? The car on the right has the right away. It is the State of Jalisco that sets the rules/laws for driving and not the individual cities. If you have studied for, and taken the driving examination, there should be no confusion. Question 26 asks (my crude translation): At a street crossing of equal importance who has right away according to the regulations (also no sign present)? Answer: The car to the right. Gobierno Del Estado De Jalisco Secretaria De Vialidad Y Transporte En cruces de arterias de iqual importancia carentes de senalmiento de la prelacion de Paso, Que debera usted hacer segun el reglamento? Hacer alto total y ceder el paso al de la derecha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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