carphil Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Has anyone also noticed the immense difference between the Chapala/Ajijic and the Jocotepec police? In my experience, the Jocotepec police are not consumed with hounding gringos over minor infractions for bribes and, for the most part, are honest and polite. Reply Report Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oatsie Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I know this has been pointed out time and again BUT I guess not everyone gets it. The money grabbing (so called) police are not the real police. They are Transitos or Vialidad - sort of like a highway patrol whose ONLY job is enforcing the traffic laws. The Municipal police are the ones who patrol the streets preventing crime and responding to calls to respond to criminal matters. A big difference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Before accusing police, you should know what you are talking about. The transitos in Ajijic are as bad as they come. In San Cristobal de las Casas we go into the street where we live the wrong way as it is difficult to enter the property otherwise, the transitos help us. In Ajijic they lurk around and wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valbogyo Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Not just Ajijic, but Chapala too. Not just Gringos, Mexicans as well. And don't you think it is better this year than previous years? Way fewer complaints on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I think, perhaps someone can confirm, that the Transitos or Vialidad for Joco , Ajijic and Chapala come out of the same office and report to Jefe in Chapala. When we see extra motor cycles police I think they are "on loan" from Guad. It is interesting having the extra 4/6 pick up police vans loaned from Guad/Jalisco..but who pays to man them etc and fill them up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinx Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I have also heard that the traffic police in Joco are out of Chapala. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behnwau Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I know the previous Commandante de Vialidad[headquartered in Chapala] well, and his area of command was from the Ocotlan border around the lake to Tizapan. I believe it was the same for the prior Commandante when headquartered in Riberas as he commuted from Tuxcueca. They are State traffic POLICE[carry guns too] and traffic is their ONLY jurisdiction,period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I know the previous Commandante de Vialidad[headquartered in Chapala] well, and his area of command was from the Ocotlan border around the lake to Tizapan. I believe it was the same for the prior Commandante when headquartered in Riberas as he commuted from Tuxcueca. They are State traffic POLICE[carry guns too] and traffic is their ONLY jurisdiction,period. I am not sure what you are saying ref the State police..I think their responsibility, coverage etc is the Sate roads, those roads outside the jurisdiction the the towns or cities Vialidad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helenj Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I go to Joco frequently. Several months ago I parked in the middle of a row of cars all Mexican plated. I was the only car (Canadian plates) who got a ticket for parking within a yellow curbed zone. It was yellow ahead of me & yellow behind me! I was with a Mexican friend who asked the cop how come I was the only one with a ticket. He just smiled & shrugged his shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I go to Joco frequently. Several months ago I parked in the middle of a row of cars all Mexican plated. I was the only car (Canadian plates) who got a ticket for parking within a yellow curbed zone. It was yellow ahead of me & yellow behind me! I was with a Mexican friend who asked the cop how come I was the only one with a ticket. He just smiled & shrugged his shoulders. Well I guess you got a smile..do you have to bother to pay the fine, unlike a MX plated car when you go to renew the car license the ticket will be record and you have to pay then before they will renew the tag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joco69 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 The best way to put those police facilitators out of extra money is to get a ticket and go and pay it up, lets get the word out no more mordida's and this will solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The world's best climate Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Has anyone also noticed the immense difference between the Chapala/Ajijic and the Jocotepec police? In my experience, the Jocotepec police are not consumed with hounding gringos over minor infractions for bribes and, for the most part, are honest and polite. Same thing happens regarding workers, they are more interested and responsable about the things done, and they usually collect the right price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behnwau Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I am not sure what you are saying ref the State police..I think their responsibility, coverage etc is the Sate roads, those roads outside the jurisdiction the the towns or cities Vialidad. I stand by what I said. Again,the former commandante is a friend of mine. Please stop the misinformation. It is the same in every state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I stand by what I said. Again,the former commandante is a friend of mine. Please stop the misinformation. It is the same in every state. It is not the "same" in Baja California or the state of San Luis Potosi and most likely many other states. It appears your info. is only for the state of Jalisco. In Baja California the transistos are municipal, for example in Mexicali, the state capital, they are under the Dirección de Seguridad Pública Municipal (DSPM). In San Luis Potosi a similar set up. Their vehicles are marked as such. Most State Pólice are crime prevention with no "special" transitos and can give out traffic citations. Federal Pólice can also give out traffic citations as far as I understand it. I have heard of Federal Pólice giving speeding tickets on the cuotas here. Had a friend recently get a speeding ticket from Aguascaliente State Pólice not a special "transito State Pólice" etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Actually his information is only for the town of Chapala as he never ventures to Guadalajara and very rarely to Joco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behnwau Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 It is not the "same" in Baja California or the state of San Luis Potosi and most likely many other states. It appears your info. is only for the state of Jalisco. In Baja California the transistos are municipal, for example in Mexicali, the state capital, they are under the Dirección de Seguridad Pública Municipal (DSPM). In San Luis Potosi a similar set up. Their vehicles are marked as such. Most State Pólice are crime prevention with no "special" transitos and can give out traffic citations. Federal Pólice can also give out traffic citations as far as I understand it. I have heard of Federal Pólice giving speeding tickets on the cuotas here. Had a friend recently get a speeding ticket from Aguascaliente State Pólice not a special "transito State Pólice" etc. I stand corrected but there are many states that have Vialidad as their traffic police. there is a competition between these states for motorcycle acrobatics and Jalisco usually wins. The Federales do enforce traffic laws too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betsy Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 P I stand by what I said. Again,the former commandante is a friend of mine. Please stop the misinformation. It is the same in every state.There does seem to be a lot less griping about the transitos this season. Has anyone gone for their first time Jalisco drivers license lately? They were really hitting hard with the mordidas when I got mine . Almost no one got out of there without paying a whopping $ 500 pesos. So what's the going rate ( first time) this year ? Maybe Behnwau could ask his buddy, the comandante. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 You never know maybe behnwau could even get you a discount...since he is so well connected... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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