More Liana Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk...merica-19372427 More news will no doubt be forthcoming. Here's news from El Universal in Spanish. The article does not say that these men from the USA were Embassy employees. They were traveling in an armored SRE (Mexico's Secretary of Exterior Relations) vehicle, allegedly with two bodyguards. http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/866230.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Max Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Wow - here is CNN Mexico's report A diplomatic car of American embassy was attacked with gunfire in the central state of Morelos by members of the Federal Police, who were doing work in the area of prosecution, informed the Secretary of the Navy ( Semar) and the Ministry of Public Security (SSP) in a statement. In the attack two Americans and a member of the Semar were wounded, the statement from the Mexican authorities. The incident took place when two officials of the Embassy of the United States is headed in a diplomatic car to a visit to the facilities of the Navy of Mexico, accompanied by an element of the Navy. They were hit by a vehicle whose crew were shown firearms, so the diplomatic vehicle driver maneuvered to avoid them, at which point the crew of the vehicle assailant opened fire on the vehicle diplomat, detailed the Semar. Moments later three other vehicles joined the chase and fired gun at the vehicle from the U.S. Embassy. The incident occurred around 08:40 pm (local) on Friday. The van, black and BCM242 plates, was attacked while walking down the federal highway Mexico-Cuernavaca, near the town Tres Marias. The injured were admitted to a hospital in Cuernavaca, Morelos state capital, which is guarded by the Army and Navy, according to the source by CNNMéxico. However, the Navy and the SSP reported in its statement that federal police appear before the Public Ministry to clarify the facts. Moreover, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA, for its acronym in English) confirmed that a U.S. diplomatic vehicle was shot, adding that there were agents from that office in the confrontation. The office of Morelos reported that state police moved to the scene to assist federal authorities, who cordoned off the area and did not allow access. They merely aid in the transfer of the wounded to hospital. Both the Navy and the Army told CNNMéxico that are now specifying information confrontation with the elements found in the area to make it available in the next few minutes. http://mexico.cnn.com/nacional/2012/08/24/tres-estadounidenses-heridos-por-ataque-a-vehiculo-diplomatico-en-morelos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Liana Posted August 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 The above-cited CNN version says it happened at 8.40PM Friday. Umm...they surely meant AM, since it's only Friday 6PM right now. And the van was attacked while walking down the federal highway? Hmm...maybe the CNN report was translated from Erdu, or ??? And here's another version: http://apnews.myway..../DA0RUVD02.html If it weren't for the use of live bullets, all of this would sound like a Marx Brothers movie. Who knows what the REAL story is!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Who knows what the REAL story is!? No kidding. The first time I read about this today, it was two US Marines, and they were on a "diplomatic" mission in a US Embassy vehicle. (huh?) Then they were DEA agents. Then the car was SRE. And maybe they had marineros along as bodyguards. (Mexican Navy?) If ever there was a "we'll never know" story in the making, this smells like it! Vamos a ver. Or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Max Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Here is the latest from Borderland Beat http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2012/08/mexico-city-3-us-marines-or-diplomats.html MEXICO CITY: 2 U.S. Embassy Officers & 1 Mx Gunfire From Marina wounded by Federal Police of Chivis Borderland Beat The Sun Update Press Release Confirmation: OEM Online Mexico City. - The Mexican Navy confirmed That Were federal police who shot at a diplomatic vehicle, wounding two officers from the U.S. Embassy and a member of the Navy. In a press release, the dependence Said That the incident took place When two Embassy Officials, Accompanied by an element of the Navy, is heading for a visit to the facilities of the Navy of Mexico on the hill of El Capulin, in the municipality of Xalatlaco. Soldiers guard an armored U.S. Embassy SUV after it was fired on by gunmen and federal police on the highway leading to Cuernavaca, Mexico. Two U.S. government employees were wounded. The Mexican Navy says there was apparent confusion acerca who was in the vehicle, Which bears diplomatic plates. By Alexandre Meneghini, AP A U.S. Embassy Attacked vehicle today was south of Mexico City, and Mexican Federal Police Also shot at the SUV During a confusing gunbattle, the Mexican Navy reports. Two U.S. government personnel were wounded. Update at 5:21 pm ET : At least four vehicles opened fire, the Mexican Navy says, though It has not clarified how many Were occupied by police. Here is how is Describing what happened, based on what's being shared at the moment: The Navy said the embassy personnel were heading down a dirt road to a military installation When a carload of gunmen opened fire on them and Chased them, along with a Navy officer Accompanying them. The Americans' vehicle tried to escape, but three other cars joined the original vehicle in pursuing them down the road. Occupants of all four vehicles opened fire, and the Navy captain called more help. Federal police officers and Mexican army troops then Showed up on the road. The statement does not make clear the U.S. Whose bullets injured workers Update at 4:43 pm ET : The Mexican Navy now says That federal police shot at the vehicle after it was U.S. Attacked by a carload of unidentified gunmen, the Associated Press is reporting. It's not clear Whether the two U.S. personnel, traveling with a Mexican Navy officer, wounded by bullets from Were the gunmen or the police. The AP writes That it "appears to Have Been a case of a gunbattle confused" on a dirt road leading to a military installation. The gunmen fired on and Chased the SUV, Which bears diplomatic license plates, before the federal police arrived and Began shooting. The gunmen escaped. The BBC reports more than 30 shots That Were fired and That The Police Were Investigating a report of a stolen vehicle in the area. Update at 3:22 pm ET : The Associated Press, citing an unnamed official, said two U.S. government personnel were hospitalized. One was shot in the stomach and a hand, and the other Suffered a leg wound. They Were in an armored SUV When They Were fired on, Reportedly by occupants of a Mexican Federal Police vehicle. Neither works for the Drug Enforcement Administration or the FBI, but the official would not Identify Their affiliation. Original post by Douglas Stanglin : Update at 2:59 pm ET : CNN Reported That INITIALLY three Marines Were on a diplomatic mission injured and taken to a hospital in Cuernavaca. CNN says there are later conflicting reports on the injured persons. The Cable News Network, However, Continues to Report That a U.S. diplomatic car was fired upon by gunmen purportedly in a Mexican federal police vehicle. The Mexican newspaper THE SUN of Mexico DEA reports two shooting instructors That Were among three people shot in an incident in the village of Fierro del Toro Huitzilac Township. It says the Americans Were traveling in a Toyota pickup with diplomatic plates. The newspaper notes That "Given the secrecy of the Federal Authorities," Mexican police patrolling the area may not Have Been Aware of the occupants of the vehicle and May have fired on it if the occupants did not stop. CNN quoted an unidentified Mexican military official as saying Earlier purported gunmen in a Mexican federal police vehicle fired on a U.S. Embassy vehicle in Which Were Marines riding. Adding to the confusion, a U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration Officials That tells CNN U.S. diplomatic vehicle was "shot up" but none of its officers That was Involved. The Mexican military official CNN Told That occupants of the U.S. Embassy vehicle Civilian clothes and wearing Were Were on an undisclosed diplomatic mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdrja Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 and the NY Times article on this -- which quotes DEA as saying there were no DEA personnel in the car; and also says " the assailants included federal police officers." http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/25/world/americas/2-us-employees-wounded-in-ambush-on-mexican-road.html?_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20120825 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Max Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Here is what is on NBC News - Who knows what really happened.......http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/24/13460805-2-us-government-employees-wounded-by-mexican-police?lite By NBC News staff and wire services Two U.S. police instructors were accidentally shot and wounded by Mexican police early on Friday after being mistaken for criminals, a Mexican government security official said. Follow @NBCNewsWorld Speaking on condition of anonymity, the official said Mexican federal police thought the vehicle in which the U.S. officials were traveling belonged to a group of suspected kidnappers they were pursuing and opened fire on it. "This was all because of a mix-up," the official said. The incident took place south of Mexico City close to the city of Cuernavaca, which has been ravaged by criminal gangs during the government's conflict with drug cartels. The car in which the U.S. police were traveling had diplomatic plates and was driven by a Mexican marine, the security official added. The two U.S. officials were in Mexico to help train police, the official said. A Mexican police official confirmed this version of events, which sparked several conflicting media reports. The U.S. Embassy in Mexico was still checking the reports but could not yet give any details, a spokesman said. A spokesman for the local government in Cuernavaca said the two wounded people were taken to a nearby hospital. The Associated Press reported the Americans apparently stumbled into a running gunbattle while they were headed to a military installation on a rural road. After gunmen in several cars fired on the Americans' car, federal police arrived and apparently opened fire as well, according to the AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajijic Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Sounds like the Keystone cops and really points to the incompetence of the Mexican police assuming latest article is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 The are so many versions that I do not think we can assume anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVGRINGO Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 The obfuscation has just begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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