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  1. I will be driving from the U.S. to Chapala/Ajijic in a couple of weeks and will need to purchase Mexican car insurance. The rates vary quite a bit for similar coverage - from about $350 (U.S) to $500 for six months of coverage, but I can find no information on the companies themselves and how likely they are to actually pay a claim. Do any of you have a company you've had good experiences with and would recommend?
  2. I am curious as to how many of the US plated vehicles in the AJijic/Chapala area are illegal in both Mexico and the US due to expired US plates and expired TIP's. In walking around the area I see many very outdated US plates on vehicles. Any guesses?
  3. I am moving to Ajijic in May with my personal belongings and my small dog. I am driving because I do not want to put my dog in cargo and she is too big to travel in the cabin. This is my question. Can I bring my car into Mexico if it has a lien (loan) on it? Thanks.
  4. [I posted this yesterday with imprecise and possibly confusing visa references, thank you mudgirl for the clarification!] Hello everyone, I'm wondering if anyone has any *recent* experience registering a mexican car on an tourist visa? I have read seriously conflicting reports on the matter for Jalisco, including one post on this site, but all from a few years back. I've asked here in Guadalajara at a Recaudadora office, and they told me I could not without an FM2, but then I read posts by people in PV and Chapala who said that they have, so long as they have proof of residence. Has anyone done so? Would it be possible to buy a car in Guadalajara and then take it to register it in Chapala or PV? Thank you!
  6. Hi Do I need to make a TIP if staying only in Nuevo Laredo? And if I want to drive from there to Colombia bridge or to Piedras Negras? More specifically - I am now in Nuevo Laredo. my TIP expires in a couple of days and my tourist permit a day before that. I want to return the TIP, leave the car in Mexico, cross over to the States and return to Mexico after a few days or a week to take the car (and probably get back with it into the states. for some bureaucratic reason I can't yet bring it back to the States - it's registration is suspended and a few more days are required for it to be reinstated.) Thanks
  7. Sorry but for sale ads not permitted on this board as stipulated by the board's owners. You can post this in the classified. Edited by moderator
  8. I noticed some chewing has been done under the hood of my car and wondered if anyone knows of a good deterrent for critters, especially those gathering nesting materials. I heard that moth balls might help but have not seen them. Thanks
  9. Some people have taken their foreign plated vehicles out of Mexico but for whatever reason did not cancel their temporary import permit at the border. People should always cancel their TIP but many times it is not feasible to make that long trek back to the border and have to cross over and cross back. Benefits of canceling are receiving your deposit back (if you cancel permit before expiration and / or timely done extensions), being able to temporarily import another foreign plated vehicle into Mexico and not having any future worry or hassle due to the Mexican government thinking your car is still in Mexico. The Mexican consulates in the US have special days where they will be canceling permits at their US based consulates in the following cities and dates for the rest of 2015: Denver Thursday and Friday October 8 and 9 2015 Houston Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday October 14, 15 and 16, 2015 Dallas Friday, Saturday and Sunday October 23, 24 and 25, 2015 Sacramento Tuesday and Wednesday November 3 and 4, 2015 Los Angeles Thursday and Friday October 29 and 30, 2015 Phoenix Thursday and Friday November 12 and 13, 2015 Chicago Thursday, Friday and Saturday December 3, 4 and 5, 2015 http://www.sat.gob.mx/aduanas/vehiculos/Paginas/default.aspx
  10. Jalisco Car Registration renewal 2015 Car registration renewal cost for 2015 is 476 pesos If you pay in January you get a discount and only pay 405 pesos If you pay in February you get a discount and only pay 428 pesos If you pay in March you get a discount and only pay 472 pesos You can pay in banks but they may charge a commission from 5 to 13 pesos depending on the bank. You can also pay at convenience stores or online with a credit or debit card at sepaf.jalisco.gob.mx Costo de refrendo vehicular en 2015: 476 pesos Pago en Enero: 405 pesos Pago en Febrero: 428 pesos Pago en Marzo: 472 pesos Se puede pagar en bancos pagando una comisión que va de los cinco a los 13 pesos, depende de la institución bancaria El pago también se puede hacer en tiendas de conveniencia Se puede pagar vía electrónica en la página: sepaf.jalisco.gob.mx con tarjeta de crédito o débito.
  11. As you may have read when I broke my story in November, 2013 regarding 2014 new taxes and issues, I stated "Also, customs is going to be checking the value of imported goods more closely and communicating with the countries where merchandise is leaving, to check declared values. People may be more likely to get caught if their car nationalization pedimento says the car is worth just $10,000 pesos, while it clearly is worth much more." Customs did exactly this and is seizing property of 9 importers and shut down over 100 for defrauding the Mexican government out of more than $3,000,000 dollars as well as providing falsified papers saying the cars were legally exported from the US. Original press release in Spanish http://www.sat.gob.mx/sala_prensa/comunicados_nacionales/Paginas/com2015_077.aspx
  12. I will be travelling to the USA and Canada in the near future with my newly Mexican plated car. I have Mexican insurance but it does not provide enough insurance in the US and Canada. Does anyone know who I could go through to get sufficient insurance?
  13. Car Importation Update December 2014 With all the rumor and speculation out there, I thought I would share information that SAT has just published regarding vehicle importations. This is information that SAT is promoting and might put to rest some of the speculation going around verbally and on web boards. SAT provides the following link for their slideshow (in Spanish) with the rules, it is titled What Vehicles can be Imported. http://www.slideshare.net/satmx/qu-vehculos-pueden-importarse I will list the highlights here. I do not do vehicle importations but have helped people verify them and have sprung them and their vehicles from jail / impound due to fraudulent acts of people offering import services. My advice is to only nationalize as a last resort and always calculate cost to benefit ratio where nationalizing makes sense for a very few. Now back to the info... What vehicles can be imported Used cars with a VIN showing they were made or assembled in Mexico, the USA or Canada. Cars 8 to 9 years old Cars whose right to be driven are not restricted or prohibited. The cost of importation is ten percent of the value of the vehicle plus taxes due for entry into the country. Cars can be imported by Mexicans living in Mexico and abroad. Importers need official ID and CURP, car title in their name or signed over to them, emissions certificate, nothing limiting their right to be driven in their home country Procedures 1) Go to a customs agent with your ID, letter of appointment of customs broker, vehicle title. 2) You need to verify that the customs agent: Obtains a certificate that the vehicle complies with physical / mechanical conditions and environmental protection (verification centers exist close to the border zone aduanas) Verify that the vehicle has not been reported stolen Verify that the vehicle VIN number matches the title. Present the vehicle title to American Customs so that they can authorize its export (this process takes an average of two days). Prepare the importation pedimento Pay the proper taxes Turn in the definitive importation pedimento fully paid. 3) Present the vehicle along with the pedimento at the aduana module for inspection and receive the import pedimentos with its attachments and register the vehicle in the Public Vehicle Registry . Remember, only a customs agent can do the procedure with aduana. Vehicle importations are not done in the street. Do not turn over money or documents in the street. I am just the messenger, I do not know how Canadians will fare without a title, or why they should deal with US customs or heck if anybody but a Mexican can import as it doesn't mention foreigners at all. Also I have no idea how people will babysit customs agents and make sure they comply with the list of items SAT gives.
  14. I have been receiving reports and complaints about people who "nationalized" their vehicles at the airport (remember aduana never did any transactions at the airport). It would appear that some have paid and not received service while others received papers that were fake. People need to check their pedimentos. The easiest way to spot a fake is if it is dated before you contracted services, i.e. you first went to inquire about car nationalization in May and received a pedimento dated February of the same year, this would be impossible. Some people also have plates but they may have been obtained improperly and could be canceled in the future leaving a person with a vehicle that is contraband and subject to impounding and imprisonment. If you never brought your car for inspection for plates then that is a red flag just as is a pedimento dated prior to the date your customs broker met you.
  15. After some time and errors the past few months, Aduana's web site is now working where one can check issuance of vehicle import permits online. You can check with permit / VIN number and passport number and get details of the permit issuance date and expiration date. https://portalsat.plataforma.sat.gob.mx/aduanas_cpitv_internet/index.aspx I don't think this is necessarily good news as Aduana has been sloppy with their extensions and immigration has been giving people their new immigration cards with dates of a few weeks to a few months before people receive them thereby making the 15 day notification period impossible to comply with. Here is an example of the results Lugar Expedición Nombre Módulo Número Permiso Número Serie Marca Vehículo Modelo Número Documento Estatus Fecha Alta Fecha Vencimiento Fecha Retorno Máximo Fecha Retorno NOGALES, SON. KM. 21 NOGALES 1252XXXX 1D7HA18N94S67XXX DODGE 2004 20389XXXX 01 ALTA NORMAL 30/07/2008 29/07/2009 29/07/2009
  16. Just finished dealing with Lakesides local car rental person and this, the 3rd time, will be the last! First, I'd emailed him from Canada back in the winter about renting and he never even responded, though I was a past client. After 3 attempts, he finally replied, but blew me off saying he was overbooked and wouldn't have anything. I changed my trip to come later, he still wouldn't commit to having a car for me, I was told I would have to take my chances there would be one. When I arrived, he did have something, thankfully, a van that I was told not to let go below the half gas tank reading or it would die. Wonderful. Three days later he told me he had a better one for me, so I came into Ajijic and picked up a silver 'Platina'. The owner had already left the premises before I pulled out of the car wash onto the carretera and had it stall on me, right across the highway, trucks speeding towards me. Frightening! It died on the highway again later that afternoon, and several times when parked just wouldn't start. Piece of junk. Again, I had to beg for help, and finally got the 3rd rental car in less than one week, a '96 white Totota Corolla. It was fine, for a few days, until one day a back window wouldn't close so I had to cut short my errands as I had a load of purchases I couldn't leave in an unsecured car in public. I called and told him and he told me to bring it in for repairs, on my time (!) but I was down to my last few days here and very busy, I decided to just not open windows when hot. Then it started making loud, grinding noises. I was in my last couple of days of rental and just praying it would not kick off and leave me stranded somewhere. Today, I surrended the vehicle and was presented with an outrageous bill of 5900p for 17 days, 5 of which was with broken down junkers that I had to return at my time & effort. When I called to inquire on the very high cost, and question the lack of discount for the 2nd week as advertised, I was told I was getting a break because the van (with the malfunctioning gas gauge) rents at $300/week and he was only charging me the same as for the Corolla at $220/week, WTF??? Then he told me it was my responsibility to report issues immediately, which I reminded him I did but really, three cars in one week? These vehicles are poorly maintained and a hazard. He claimed the Platina had no issues at all when I took possession so the stalling and not starting I had caused. SERIOUSLY?? The friggin thing didn't make it out of the parking lot before dying, he burned out of there so I couldn't return it to him! He finished his very defensive and well-practiced spiel by asking if I had been so terribly inconvenienced (actually YES) and that no discount was forthcoming. I paid my bill in full, but will never deal with that company again. Buyer Beware when renting vehicles here!
  17. The New Zealand Herald 14th May 6:42 AM Showers 17° / 11° Auckland Login Register New Zealand Herald Mexico's booming industry making unsafe cars 11:24 AM Thursday Nov 28, 2013 In this Sept. 19, 2013 photo, cars produced in Mexico for export are parked at the port terminal in the Gulf city of Veracruz, Mexico. Photo / AP In Mexico's booming auto industry, the cars rolling off assembly lines may look identical, but how safe they are depends on where they're headed. Vehicles destined to stay in Mexico or go south to the rest of Latin America carry a code signifying there's no need for antilock braking systems, electronic stability control, or more than two air bags, if any, in its basic models. If the cars will be exported to the United States or Europe, however, they must meet stringent safety laws, including as many as six to 10 air bags, and stability controls that compensate for slippery roads and other road dangers, say engineers who have worked in Mexico-based auto factories. Because the price of the two versions of the cars is about the same, the dual system buttresses the bottom lines of automakers such as General Motors and Nissan. But it's being blamed for a surge in auto-related fatalities in Mexico, where laws require virtually no safety protections. "We are paying for cars that are far more expensive and far less safe," said Alejandro Furas, technical director for Global New Car Assessment Program, or NCAP, a vehicle crash-test group. "Something is very wrong." In 2011, nearly 5,000 drivers and passengers in Mexico died in accidents, a 58 per cent increase since 2001, according to the latest available data from the country's transportation department. Over the same decade, the US reduced the number of auto-related fatalities by 40 per cent. The death rate in Mexico, when comparing fatalities with the size of the car fleet, is more than 3.5 times that of the U.S. Nevertheless, Mexico hasn't introduced any safety proposals other than general seat belt requirements for its 22-million strong auto fleet. Even then, the laws don't mandate three-point shoulder belts necessary to secure child safety seats. Brazil and Argentina, on the other hand, have passed laws requiring all vehicles to have dual front air bags and antilock braking systems by next year. An Associated Press investigation this year found that Brazil's auto plants produce cars aimed at Latin American consumers that lack basic safety features. Like Brazil, Mexico doesn't run its own crash test facility to rank cars' safety before they hit the road. Dr. Arturo Cervantes Trejo, director of the Mexican Health Ministry's National Accident Prevention Council, said the country has a long way to go to upgrade safety standards, but challenging the nation's $30 billion auto industry could be difficult. "It's a complicated subject because of the amount of money carmakers bring to this country. The economy protects them," Cervantes told the AP. "But there are plans, there is a strategy. We have a working group with the car industry." Auto plants cover a swath of central Mexico, cranking out about 3 million cars a year while lifting into the middle class auto hubs in the states of Aguascalientes and Puebla. In a matter of a few years, Mexico has become the world's fourth biggest auto exporter, despite having no homegrown brands, and the country's car fleet doubled between 2001 and 2011, the latest national figures show. In fact, consumers in "first-world" countries are paying the same or even less for safer cars. For example, basic versions of Mexico's second most popular car, the Nissan Versa, made in central Aguascalientes, come with two air bags, but without electronic stability control systems, which use sensors to activate brakes when a car loses control. The sticker price of the newer generation of the sedan comes to $16,000. The US version of the same car has six air bags in the front, on the sides and mounted in the roof, in addition to an electronic stability control system. That sticker price is about $14,000. Similarly, the basic version of the Chevrolet Aveo, which has been revamped and renamed Sonic, sells for about $14,000 in the US and comes with 10 air bags, antilock brakes and traction control. Its Mexican equivalent, the country's top-selling car, doesn't have any of those protections and costs only $400 less. Nissan Mexicana spokesman Herman Morfin said in a statement it is "common practice" to add different features, depending on the intended market. "Because there are many choices of specifications and equipment, specific marketing strategies by country, in addition to the tax difference among countries, states and cities, also including transportation and delivery costs, it's not possible to make a direct comparison among vehicles sold in each market, based on the list price published on the Web," Morfin said. Morfin said two of Nissan's most popular models the Versa and the Sentra are packaged with two air bags and an antilock braking system, which is more than what's required by the Mexican government. While GM declined repeated requests to comment, an engineer who headed a manufacturing division at the company in Mexico until last year said the company saved on costs by not adding safety features. "For the company to make more net profit and so that cars are sold at more affordable prices, we would toss aside some accessories. Air bags, ABS brakes, those were the first to go," the engineer said. He spoke on condition of anonymity, citing a confidentiality agreement with the company. Three other engineers who worked with Nissan and GM for four years and are still involved in auto design for other carmakers were interviewed on similar conditions of anonymity, and they confirmed the companies built cars with vastly different safety features depending on where they'd be sold. The US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said air bags and electronic stability control have prevented tens of thousands of injuries in auto accidents and reduced fatal crashes by as much as a third in the U.S. Paco de Anda, the director of the Mexican chapter for the accident-prevention group Safe Kids, said Latin American consumers have to pay extra for those protections. "Features that are already mandatory in other countries, here they are selling them as optional items," De Anda said. "People here have no education about road safety ... so they don't pay for it." A GM worker who gets paid $100 a week said people in Latin America cannot afford to buy cars that are fully loaded with safety features. "We're not first-world countries," said the worker, who asked not to be identified because he was afraid of losing his job at the GM plant in the town of Ramos Arizpe, where Chevrolet Sonics, Cadillac SRXs and Captiva SUVs are assembled. Yet crash test results show exactly what's being sacrificed for savings. One of Nissan's most popular models in Mexico, the Tsuru, is so outdated it has only lap seat belts in the back and some versions have no air bags at all. The car is not sold in the US or Europe. At a recent Latin NCAP crash test presentation, the Tsuru's driver's door ripped off upon impact at only 37 mph. Its roof collapsed and the steering wheel slammed against the crash test dummy's chest. The Tsuru scored zero stars out of a possible five. When asked about the crash test, Nissan representatives replied in an email that "consumers continue to ask for it because of its durability, reliability and affordability," without responding specifically to the test results. More than 300,000 Tsurus have been sold in Mexico in the past six years, at about $10,000 each. Carlos Gomez and his wife Diana Martinez were driving their two small children in a red Tsuru from their northern Mexican town of Doctor Arroyo across the length of Mexico to Chiapas state for Holy Week holidays in March. The sky turned dark as they neared central Mexico, and less than 250 miles from home they were hit head-on by a drunken driver in a red Ford Ranger pickup truck. The couple died from chest and head injuries; the steering wheel struck Gomez's chest and the dashboard crushed his wife's head. The children survived but spent weeks in the hospital. Six-year-old Carlos still wears a cast from the waist down. He cannot walk. "Their car was way worse off than the car the other boy was driving," said the mother's brother, Agustin Martinez. "We want more robust cars." The family said the investigation didn't determine whether air bags would have saved the parents' lives, but there was an air bag in the truck that struck them. The driver was not injured. Furas, of Global NCAP, said changing automaker behavior will require the region's few watchdog groups and especially government regulators to apply far more pressure on automakers. Volkswagen, for one, began adding two air bags to its Clasico model after the German carmaker learned that Latin NCAP was going to choose the car for crash testing because of its popularity, Furas said. The model sold in Europe and the US as Jetta comes standard with six air bags. "Mexico has to take a good look at itself, at the problems it's facing," Furas said. "It is selling unsafe cars to its own people, when it can be selling safe cars that it can build."
  18. Be careful, valet parking guys are stealing access cards (they look like a white credit card) from cars to gain entry to gated communities and underground parking of high rise office buildings. This is happening at very nice places, famous restaurants and 3 cards have been stolen in the past week alone so don´t leave these cards in your vehicle as they seem to be a hot item.
  19. I decided to pay by Vehicle Tax today for a my Mexican plated car. I went to the Recaudadora to pay my refrendo fees. Huge line. So I decided to try a suggestion in the Guad Reporter and go to Banamex to pay. No problema! Until I asked how I will get the card that I have to keep in my car. The clerk suggested I return to the Recaudadora that maybe there would a different line to pick this up. Back at the Recaudadero again, I was told I had to wait three days and go to a downtown Guadalajara office to pick up my card. Oh, and to take proof of residency and my passport, and who knows what else! I would rather pay it twice! Oh, and the bank charged me 427 pesos which is more than I would have paid at the Recaudadora. I went back to Banamex, but they said the transaction could not be cancelled. I image that folks that pay on the internet or at OXXO after printing out a receipt from the internet will have to do the same thing.
  20. I drove my Cndn-plated 4Runner back to Canada last winter so avoided all the hassle & controversy over nationalizing, but now I want to buy a little old car to keep at my casa for snowbird visits. I expect I will be going Permanente this spring, if that makes any difference. I believe I would have to buy a car that is already Mexican-plated to avoid the problems (logistics, expenses & potential headaches) of getting it switched over. If that is true, where should one go looking for a GOOD, reliable used car- preferably locally!- as opposed to days lost in Guad. Also- what vehicles are most recommended? Need automatic, under $2500US. I loved my Toyota but feared breakdowns since parts are not available locally & cost $$$ to get even with long waits. So something not only very reliable but that local mechanics can easily fix with parts available when the inevitable happens. Something that can clear topes in a single bound.... something not on every theives 'most wanted' list... All suggestions welcomed- thanks!
  21. So I have been reviewing the new tax reforms and in it is a specific mention of who can drive foreign plated cars, this coincides with what we have been told verbally although should clarify where aduana has rejected car extensions for temporales with working papers, the new Article 106 mentions temporales being able to have their cars and extend their permits as well as tourists but doesn't mention residente permanentes. Here is the text Artículo 106. ……………………………………………………………………………… IV. Por el plazo que dure su condición de estancia, incluyendo sus renovaciones, en los términos y condiciones que establezca el Servicio de Administración Tributaria mediante reglas, en los siguientes casos: a) Las de vehículos propiedad de extranjeros que se internen al país, con la condición de estancia de visitante y residente temporal, siempre que se trate de un solo vehículo. Article 61 specifically mentions menaje de casa and residente permanentes and specifically excludes their cars from being here without importing them and paying taxes Artículo 61. ……………………………………………………………………………… VII. Los menajes de casa pertenecientes a residentes permanentes y a nacionales repatriados o deportados, que los mismos hayan usado durante su residencia en el extranjero, así como los instrumentos científicos y las herramientas cuando sean de profesionales y las herramientas de obreros y artesanos, siempre que se cumpla con los plazos y las formalidades que señale el Reglamento. No quedan comprendidos en la presente exención las mercancías que los interesados hayan tenido en el extranjero para actividades comerciales o industriales, ni los vehículos. Here further along they talk about canceling permisions for vehicle importations to anybody not tourist or temporal Artículo 175-A. El Servicio de Administración Tributaria podrá cancelar las autorizaciones otorgadas... ... Artículo 182. ……………………………………………………………………………… III. Importen temporalmente vehículos sin tener alguna de las condiciones de estancia señaladas en el inciso a) de la fracción IV del artículo 106 de esta Ley;
  22. 2014 Jalisco plated vehicle renewal fees (refrendo) are as follows: If paid in January it will be $387 pesos (15% discount). If paid in February it will be $410 pesos (10% discount). If paid in March it will be $432 pesos (5% discount). If paid April 1st and later it is $455 plus late fees and fines and if they come to your home to collect then they will assess extra fines and collection costs. Si paga el refrendo en enero obtendrá el 15 por ciento de descuento pagando 387; en febrero, un 10 por ciento pagando 410 pesos, y en marzo el 5 por ciento, pagando 432 pesos. A partir del primero de abril, los contribuyentes omisos deberán pagar 455 pesos del costo del refrendo, más recargos, actualizaciones, y en caso de recibir un requerimiento en su domicilio, también el costo de una multa fiscal y de cobranza
  23. So a client went permanent and wanted us to check their pedimento which was done by a person in Ajijic, not the same person who was selling fake pedimentos and stolen plates but a new person. We tried to check out the pedimento but nothing came up under the vehicle VIN number and the plates did not check out either. I will personally verify the pedimento with Aduana Thursday but I feel it is a fake due to the fact that the client met with the guy to import the car at the beginning of this month and then 2 weeks later got a pedimento dated January 14, 2013, 8 months before the parties met each other or did business. Anybody else out there please check, this person has been mentioned on web boards as being reputable and maybe he or his source have gone bad.
  24. Can anyone recommend a good and accurate vehicle GPS Navigation System for Mexico?
  25. Just had my car windows done by Ruben Rubio 331-048-9610 in Ajijic. He comes to the house and spent over an hour and a half doing a beautiful job on my car which is mid-size, 4 sides and back window. Very reasonable and professional. My windows are quite dark and the front is clear so don't know what the regulations are in Mexico but so far have not been stopped by police.
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