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  1. We cook a variety of Italian (Manicotti & Lasagna) putting away the bulk in the freezer, much would have been wasted ($/energy).  By luck we were following the expiration date, waiting for that new batch to appear.  Otherwise, we never would have known the old date had been removed.  No way to do business, especially with dairy products!  

    We've made a habit of going into Costco, and now we will add Mega/Surrounding stores to that trip, as the specialty items we seek are expensive and their integrity cannot be compromised.  

    My suspicions are confirmed.  Product expiry dates are removed at SuperLake.   Just be aware.

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    Example:  A large shipment of Ricotta Cheese containers at our (SuperLake) local grocery were on the last date of their expiration. Family member checked every last container to see if there was a later date.   We have a large volume of Italian cooking to do, and decided to wait for a fresher batch.  Upon return to the market, we noted:  These items no longer had an expiration date on them. Same brand, same count, but now lacking the printed on the container date.    Be aware when the expiration date is missing on such products.  It is a good thing we noticed, otherwise our cooking projects next week would have been lacking and all ingredients are rather costly for that mishap to occur.

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  3. 1 hour ago, ezpz said:

    I first came here this exact time of year 10-11 years ago and don't remember any excess smoke at all, at least for that 2 week period.  This year has been the worst!  The views have been obscured for at least a couple of weeks even when we have a breeze.  The air pollution definitely contributes to respiratory problems.  I had my roof painted white to reflect some of the heat and am now keeping my windows closed during the day.  Pray for rain!

    Unfortunately, closing the window to this pollution, will not protect us from PM 2.5 pollution. 

    Irregardless of if you roll with it, are struggling with it etc., this type of pollution takes its toll.  While it may not (appear) to affect many individuals immediately, the longterm affects are there for all of us humans.  It weakens already weakened aging immune systems and the resulting lung, heart, brain and cancer which challenges us, are not immediately (if ever) are connected to such environmental risks. Most patients and docs never make the connection.  

    Sunday it died down a bit (day off from burning), but not much.  Today it has yet increased again.  

    What increased the pollution this May?  

    It was not here last year to this degree.  We did not require pain/snus/headache meds prior. Throat (raspy) and eyes (irritated/watery) problems were not presented until this May.  Any explanations?  Fires?  

    We are younger expats.  No health issues at all.

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  4. Does anyone know if there is a way to confirm if there is a local fire?

    This must be a major fire somewhere.  The smoke is so thick, you cannot even see a source.  

    This cannot be normal. Ajijic here; One photo of

    the mountain behind us.  It is getting worse.

    One photo of the lake (no mountains OR LAKE visible.




  5. Lakeviews; It is not limited to San Juan Cosala. If you smell it or not, you are affected. The PM 2.5 pollution index is higher for Mexico, this area of Lake Chapala included, than NYC.   It is actually something that you cannot escape by closing a window.  SOB has higher concentrations of PM 2.5 and yes, the burning of garbage / fields is part of the problem.  Here is an interesting link to a map which shows levels of PM 2.5 globally.  


  6. On May 17, 2017 at 8:49 PM, LakeViews said:

    Yes, air pollution has many sources.   The burning of fossil fuels for transportation & industry, forest fires, agricultural burning and the burning of trash.   The smoke that invades my home in San Juan Cosala on a daily basis comes from people burning trash and yard waste.   There are several sources near by and on any given day someone torches something forcing us to close our doors and windows.   Frequently the smoke smells of burning plastics.   So the smoke that most threatens my air quality is directly observed from the local urban community.   The general haze in the area does not force me to close my doors and windows.  

    Very affected this week by the pollution.  Sinus and eye irritation this week. 

    Lake Chapala and Guadalajara PM 2.5 index (due to the above burning of trash/fields etc) in our local Lake chapala area, exceeds that of NYC, Philadelphia and Washington, DC.  

    Canada's air has a lower PM 2.5 index than all the above. It must be quite a shock for some Canadians sinus/lungs after moving to this area.

    Yes, this is a risk to health  (see levels below)  and more precisely this is yet an insightful view of one of the many ways these particles do affect us:  http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/01/brain-pollution-evidence-builds-dirty-air-causes-alzheimer-s-dementia
    As I type, the smoke of yet another "burn" is coming through our windows.
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  7. Has anyone identified labs in Mexico which test water for heavy Metals, pesticides, solvents and volatile organic chemicals (VOCs)?

    There are many US labs which do the above, and I do know of residents who have sent samples NOB.

    A good lab will report on both presence and level of those present.

    It is unfortunate, but reverse osmosis will not remove pesticides and VOCs.


  8. 4 hours ago, Crazydog said:

    How much do you trust "organic" vegetables and meat in Mexico? Are there any farms around here that sell these products. 

    I don't trust that the local farms, meet the highest level of organic status.

    Spraying of plants with chemicals is just one part of a multifold process.  The soil, seed and environment have much to do with if a farm is able to be considered organic.  When the environment is lacking, then the final produce shall be as well. This goes way beyond choosing not to use toxic chemical sprays.

    US Organic farmers have rules to follow, and third-party certifiers inspect their operations to make sure they're following the rules. Those certifiers also test a certain percentage of the product each year for illicit use of pesticides. Although certifiers are paid by the companies that they certify, their work is audited by the USDA.

    Those are US standards.  What are the Mexico standards for our local farmers?

    It takes years for a farm in the US to transition over to organic. It is quite a big deal and the steps leading up to the actual certification process are many.   

    Is it any wonder that when the drinking water/produce/soil is compromised, that health (kidney etc) issues will present? In effect you are what you eat/drink/breathe.  

    Kidney issues fall into one of three categories, Congenital, Acute and Chronic.  Only the first is passed down via genetics.  

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  9. On April 4, 2017 at 10:12 AM, ficklepie said:

    Out today in Harper's, "Under the Surface: Investigating chronic kidney disease in Jalisco, Mexico"



    Thank you for sharing that April/2017 article with us.

    I wonder how many are experiencing kidney malfunction, in our expat population,

    their pets included.  I say their pets, for I have noted what seems like a unusually 

    high amount of people stating their pets have kidney issues/died from kidney issues.

    This being stated is usually followed with "I have had pets all my life (NOB) which never had 

    these issues.  Anyone care to touch base/raise hand if your family member or your pet has

    developed such challenges, post relocation SOB?

    As much as we do not want hear this type of review of Lake Chapala, 

    we must consider that environment most likely has something to do with this.

    As per the above article: http://harpers.org/blog/2017/04/under-the-surface/

    While it is true that poverty exposes these poor families to an increase in Kidney Failure:
    The following facts stand out: 
    1) The state of Jalisco has the second-highest incidence of kidney disease in the world.
    2) A polluted water supply doesn’t help. The state of Jalisco has the second-highest incidence of kidney disease in the world.
    It’s widely known that Lake Chapala is toxic. The Lerma River, which feeds the lake, has been polluted by untreated wastewater for twenty years. This isn’t news and it isn’t an anomaly: an estimated 70% of Mexico’s rivers are open-air sewers, in large part because the government has failed to enforce laws defining what can and cannot be dumped into the water.
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  10. Thank you for making the public aware.

    It is safe to assume that this will not stop, as long as this person exists.  With each new poisoning, people respond with surprise that this person is still out there and harming animals. No one should be surprised.  

    Pet killers are not in control of their emotions, no matter how cool and calculated they appear outwardly, they experience constant inner turmoil.

    They cannot cease killing, nor will they acknowledge that.  This is after all their attempt to feel in control.  Yet in truth, they lack control over their actions and emotions. 

    A killer may take a break, via other diversions. During this period that person attempts on an unconscious level  to convince themselves, that they are normal and have other interests.
    The killer will eventually return to this criminal act.  That person is a slave to their past, obsessions, and jealousy of those whom are happier and able to love.  Thus, the killing of an animal is an often subconscious strike against the owners.
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  11. 20 hours ago, Joyfull said:

    You obviously love dogs very much, so thank you for this gesture. I am now afraid to take my 2 dogs for a walk in the village or on the malecon. They are always on a leash and love those walks. As much as they would dislike muzzles I am willing to do it for their safety. However, they have flat faces which are very difficult or impossible to put muzzles on. Do you know of any muzzles that work for "smooshie" faced dogs? 


    Message me and we will coordinate to size up your dogs muzzle size.

  12. Thanks to a member of our community, more deaths were averted!

    On areas where families walk, and areas off of paths where both dogs and children explore.

    The person who collected this suspicious item, had his dogs on leads.

    You would not have thought this was poison, so everything is suspect.

    Please collect, and bring to vet Luis, for him to turn into authorities.

    Make sure to note where on the path you found this, and if you can, take a cell phone picture

    of the items before disturbing them.

    Unlikely items were collected (not meat), and brought to the vets office.  

    Item was confirmed tainted with rat poison.

    Hiking trails require extra precautions such as leashes and even more so those lightweight muzzles, for dogs are very fast with snatching up items.

    Due to our posts, people are more aware, and are actually taking photos, carrying collection bags, and reporting in promptly.

    This is not a temporary agenda that this person has, for poisoning animals.

    This person(s) is addicted to the rush it gives him/her, and is not in control of emotions.  Much like an drug user, 

    this person will keep going back for more.  They are helpless against their inclination to kill.  

    This person thinks they are in charge, but they are not. They cannot stop.  

    Please take precautions with your loved ones, pets and children (who both are curious and like to put items in 

    their mouths) alike, on the streets and paths.  Please tell your neighbors who are Mexican, and have little children.

    My dear friend is a photographer, and she has often noticed little children just picking up items on the path, 

    sometimes examining/tasting an item.  Take care to inform those who are not reading this web board.


  13. 29 minutes ago, LifeNo5 said:

    How very kind of you to provide this in-depth information.  We lost our dog to the poisoner one week ago and I feel it will be a bit before we are ready to get another.  However, having a proven, comfortable muzzle is a blessing.  Thank you for doing this for all of us.

    Your welcome.  If this doesn't make us kinder to one another, we have been poisoned as well.  I believe we are better than that.  We are in a better place than those whose addiction, is to terrorize.  Actions speak loudly, much louder than words. Reaching out is the answer.

    I saw your post and ached for you and what your dog went though. You are never really ready to get another.  We did not get to wait, for our remaining dog was essentially on the way out health wise without that comfort, to his mind/health/stomach.  I have never seen an animal grieve as our surviving dog was doing.  That was relieved greatly with the arrival of a new friend. 

    Remember: The killer(s) do not reach out, they strike out with hate. People who devalue the lives they are taking are ill. When you minimize the value of life, any life, and replace it with hate, you have truly surrendered to a sickness. 



    We and our dogs, have been in this area for a few years.

    We came here to heal from life's extremes.  It is a well earned retirement.

    On streets, we have adhered to an on leash walk, with of

    course picking up our dog poops.

    We even carry an ample supply of small grocery bags, picking

    up trash and poops which are not ours.

    Shortly after moving to the Lake Chapala area, we had the

    heartbreak of losing a very young dog (from a vet product),

    and everyone suffered from that loss, including the other dogs.    

    Overcoming the above loss of our young dog, we sought to

    find peace with a walk, high into the mountains with our dogs.  

    Once we reached the area which was without travelers, a good

    half hour up, we would unleash our dogs for exercise.


    Then, in 2016, the worst happened to our family and our souls.  

    Our other young dog died after consuming chicken stuffed with

    rat poison.   Sadly, there are demented mentally ill souls

    in this Lake Chapala area.

    This person or people is/are mentally ill and have no control

    of themselves.  They are sick and craving this damage they do

    to the owners and dogs alike.   Truly, these people are parasites

    in paradise.


    It is a heartache to be sure and has affected the quality of my life.

    I will never forget that good natured sweetheart whom we love dearly.


    In addition to that, the streets are doused with horse crap and

    thus we did experience a recent and severe parasite infection for our

    dogs.  One way around all the above is a poison muzzle.  This is not

    to be confused with the heavy weight leather or metal muzzles.  There

    is no need for a sweet animal who is not a threat to humans, to wear

    one of those other extremes. 


    It has been a very long sizing up of muzzles for our one remaining dog

    and our/his newly acquired companion. 


    Surely the muzzle sizing, was a daunting process, and I for all dogs benefit,

    would be willing to help you size up your dog for a muzzle which is custome

    "modified" to that dogs specific needs which:

    Does not restrict his panting.

    Does not press against his nose annoying him.

    Has an additional soft fore head strap so the muzzle point is able to be

    moved further from his nose.

    Is good for active frisky fun loving dogs.


    It is just an offer and I have oh so many muzzles to help you size up your

    dogs need, so when you purchase yours off of Amazon, you will know it

    is a fit when it arrives, vs one of many muzzles which will stay in a drawer!

    Been there, done that.  Not charging any pesos for my helping of others.  

    Just a goodwill gesture in the name of safety for our beautiful fur souls.  

    This will protect your dog from parasite infection and poison ingestion.

    Feel free to contact me via PM.  


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     Protocol change, due to the widespread locations of poisonings. It is safe to assume that Lake Chapala is a poisoning zone, with at least one killer if not more.   Do not report on this message board. Instead report to the Lina Doyle (information below), and contact the authorities listed below (contact information is in red below). Message board updates will continue on a regular basis, by those in touch with the authorities.  The public will be kept informed if any arrests take place.  Surveillance of the area is growing, and we are on our way as a community to ensure that our streets are safer from those who poison. Prosecution of those arrested, will involve a lawyer and consequences.  There will not be an easy out for offenders.




    Please do not speculate on the message board. Do not spread rumors that the dogs were noisy and it was likely an unhappy neighbor.  

    Poisoned dogs have included leashed, unleashed, in home/in yard.


    Those who have been charged of poisoning in the past, include expat and Mexican alike. 




    Calling the police is not enough.



    IF YOUR DOG HAS BEEN POISONED, DO NOT BURY/CREMATE THE DOG.  You must request that the poison be identified and remains frozen, until the police have finished their investigation. Dr. Ladron's animal clinic has the room for such storage.


    Instructions as per meeting with government officials on dog poisoning.


    There was an impressive array of officials including the President's office, Fire and Police, Ecologico, Ministerio Publico, and the Ajijic Delgado, Chuni.

    There was much discussion about the difficulty of communication between the expat community and the Chapala government. People reported how they had left messages for the police and the officer in charge of Ajijic never got the message. After much discussion, it was decided that Chuni be the initial contact person to report any dog poisoning. His cell number is 33 1064 0814 (PLEASE PUT THIS NUMBER IN YOUR PHONE ), the Delegacion office is 766-1760 , email delegacionajijic@hotmail.com.


    Chuni speaks some English and, in the event that he needs help, he will call Gloria Perales, liaison to the expat community, who was also at today's meeting. This designation was made so that there is a point person for us. Chuni will then report to the police and Ecologica but the buck stops with him.


    To date we do not have empirical evidence of the kind of poison used. This is a major drawback and so, while we hope there are no more poisonings, we must report to Chuni should another occur. If the dog is dead, stay with the corpse and Chuni will have the police meet you. The area will be cordoned off and forensics from Guadalajara will claim the body. If your dog is alive, of course, rush to your vet but also call Chuni and give him the details.


    At our request, the government has agreed to poll the stores that sell the poison and try to get information pointing to suspicious purchasers. The store operators will be told of the reward and be able to claim it if their information leads to the identification and capture.

    Lina Doylewho speaks fluent Spanish, has been heading this initiative and has agreed to be the point person for communication should that be needed. Her email is linadoyo@yahoo.com phone numbers: 33 1350 4122 and 108-0525


    Finally, ANYONE WHOSE DOG HAS BEEN POISONED, should report the details to Lina by email. Please include the date, location, description of dog and your name and contact information. There are some claiming that this is merely hysteria and no need to pay attention. WE NEED FACTS.

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