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  1. 3 hours ago, Natasha said:

    Wait for it...... wait for it....... NO!  According to Informador on-line newspaper from Guad, there will be NO ALPHABETICAL  lineups on   given days.

    Of course  not.... made absolutely too much sense!!!!!      Stay tuned.......... tomorrow is another day 😒

    I'm now seeing that criteria removed as well but it doesn't start till the 20th so we have plenty of time for more updates.

     Es importante recalcar que la aplicación del biológico para adultos mayores NO se realizará en orden alfabético por letra del apellido.
     

  2. 30 minutes ago, Alfa said:

    Don't know who told you there was a second line but we were just led to the exit when we had finished. There was no sign of,  nor were we told about signing up for the second Sinovac shot.

    In one of the tents there is a final line in which you sign up via phone/email to get notified for your second shot.

    A friend of mine also left without completing this final step; she went back and was glad she did.

    Here is an excerpt from a public post about the post-injection part of the vaccination process. Perhaps you completed this step and didn't realize what it is for?

    "After you get the vaccine you will be asked to remain on your chair for 30 minutes.
    Then you will be asked to go to the tables section to provide the copies of your documents and personal information to contact you around 28 days for you 2nd vaccine."
     
  3. Although the actual weekend start date (either Friday or Saturday) is yet to be determined, the next municipalities/neighborhoods of Guadalajara to vaccinate residents age 60+ will be in alpha order by (paternal/first) last name, by day, for seven days.

    As reported by the media this afternoon (Alfaro has not confirmed), Day 1 will be apellido paterno starting with the initials A or B, Day 2 is C, D, E, and so on, thru Day 7. Physical locations for the nine vaccination sites are as yet unpublished. ALPHA ORDER SUSPENDED.

    In bold print authorities say these vaccines are for residents of the corresponding neighborhoods only.

    So, if you were thinking of heading to La Perla Tapatía for your shot, rather than getting your shot here tomorrow or Thursday, that might be difficult.

  4. 17 minutes ago, Natasha said:

    Does this suggest they will take the ones who missed out today but already had a ficha and let them be in front of the line tomorrow, or???

    Didn't even try for Ajijic today, but planning ahead.......

    I just reached out to ask the Chapala gov't for you; I'll post if the interim presidente municipal responds...sometimes he does. 

  5. DON'T FORGET TO SIGN UP FOR YOUR SECOND-SHOT CONFIRMATION. This is REQUIRED FOR YOUR SECOND DOSE. (It's a separate line, after the post-vaccination wait period.)
     
    They are telling people to abstain from alcohol before and after your Covid-19. Although this may be wise health advice and I am no doctor, this advice has been debunked medically by several sources. Here’s one source: https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-alcohol-may-affect-your-response-to-the-covid-19-vaccine
     
    CHAPALA:  The interim presidente municipal just now live streamed that they've reached today's limit in Chapala and that tomorrow, the Chapala location switches to a more-comfortable Parque de la Cristianía, same 8-4 time. He reiterates there are sufficient doses to vaccinate all seniors; any doses remaining at close of business on Thursday will be administered on Friday.
     
    AJIJIC: At the Ajijic location on the malecón, some people are reporting that it is pretty cool, what with the breeze, foliage, and tents. And bring TP; the bathrooms are not charging, but no paper.
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  6. 28 minutes ago, Carnivore said:

    Our local family doctor informed us on Friday that once the date and time for the vaccine was determined (and he suggested that it would be this week) that those over 60 who have registered on the web-site and obviously have a CURP or they wouldn't have been able to register on-line) would receive a phone call or email to advise of the time.  However he also told us that if we have friends over the age of 60 who are not permanent (here on a tourist visa) and do not have a CURP they can also attend, and they will be able to obtain the vaccine providing they have their passports, proof of local address and their tourist visa.  I should note that we have not received a notice by phone or e-mail.  

     

    Is there any proof that the foregoing is accurate.  We have a number of people, who have not been able to register on-line,  who would want to attend if they can.  They are over 60, and, of course can provide the required documents.   Any response would be most appreciated.

    "Official" word varies from one vaccine location/municipality to another, but....

    In Ajijic yesterday, interim presidente municipal Trejo said that nonresident foreigners could be vaccinated so long as vaccine supplies last, but they would be added to the end of the list for each day, ie. giving preference to those who have registered on the federal platform. People from other municipalities also can get on line but, again, at the end of the list, giving preference to those who are residents and have all their docs in order. As they've just opened, I cannot confirm but you might go down and ask a brigadier without having to get on line.

    Another point, altho I cannot personally confirm: If you are a resident with a CURP but have not signed up on mivacuna.salud.gob.mx you can take the other required documents and someone there will sign you up and get your Folio/receipt at the Malecón, but to expect that will delay you online. I don't know anyone who has done this yet at the Ajijic malecón. 

    He also told me that people who are immobile and were expecting a home-visit vaccine will at some point in the future be contacted by the Salud de Bienestar (like Health and Welfare) folks, but he didn't have more info than that.

  7. Latest updates, just because...

     

    Two updates to the ever-changing details needed to get your vaccine tomorrow.

    1) The Jocotepec vaccination date has been moved up from a Wednesday start to tomorrow, Tuesday, coinciding with the Chapala and Ajijic start.
     
    2) About 40 minutes ago, Governor Alfaro posted that the Ajijic location is the Cultural Center on the plaza. This contradicts the interim mayor’s dinnertime video update (with separate still images from other sources corroborating) that the location is to be at the Malecón. (Residents from San Antonio and Riberas west to La Canacinta are supposed to go to the Ajijic location.)
     
    Heck if I know where in Ajijic actual vaccinations will be administered. 

    Update from the interim delegado a few minutes ago:

    The Lakeside administration of the Sinovac vaccine begins tomorrow, Tuesday, in  Jocotepec, Chapala, and Ajijic—note that these are different from the locations previously posted—and the vaccination runs Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. He did not repeat the hours, but those communicated earlier are 8-4.

    2,700 tokens per day will be released. (Note: He doesn't clarify if this includes both Chapala and Ajijic or if is the total for each of the two locations.)
    People from other municipalities are welcome, but priority will be given to those from the Chapala municipality.
     
    Here are the locations:
     
    In Chapala, the "antigua presidencia"  (former) municipal (the yellow) building on Madero, #226, which is the corner of Hidalgo (the carretera) and Madero, northwest corner at the traffic light.
     
    In Ajijic, on the malecón at Calle del Paseo (the street that runs parallel to the malecón.)
     
    In Jocotepec at the regional hospital on the carretera.
     
    He says you need to bring: your registration doc from mivacuna.gob.mx, the original and a copy of your INE (for expats, make a copy of your temporal/permanente), your CURP and proof of address.
     
    Please see my post from yesterday (I edited it to make the same title, but you need to scroll) on what info you will be expected to provide to the brigadiers during on-site registration.
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  8. Updated just now:

     

    Two updates to the ever-changing details needed to get your vaccine tomorrow.

    1) The Jocotepec vaccination date has been moved up from a Wednesday start to tomorrow, Tuesday, coinciding with the Chapala and Ajijic start.
     
    2) About 40 minutes ago, Governor Alfaro posted that the Ajijic location is the Cultural Center on the plaza. This contradicts the interim mayor’s dinnertime video update (with separate still images from other sources corroborating) that the location is to be at the Malecón.
     
    Heck if I know where in Ajijic actual vaccinations will be administered but residents from San Antonio and Riberas west to La Canacinta are supposed to go to the Ajijic location.

     

    Update from the interim delegado a few minutes ago:

    The Lakeside administration of the Sinovac vaccine begins tomorrow, Tuesday, in  Chapala, Ajijic, and Jocotepec—note that these are different from the locations previously posted—and the vaccination runs Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. He did not repeat the hours, but those communicated earlier are 8-4.

    2,600 tokens per day will be released. (Note: He doesn't clarify if this includes both Chapala and Ajijic or is the quantity for each of the two locations.)
    People from other municipalities are welcome, but priority will be given to those from the Chapala municipality.
     
    Here are the locations:
     
    In Chapala, the "antigua presidencia"  (former) municipal (the yellow building) on Madero, #226, which is the corner of Hidalgo (the carretera) and Madero, northwest corner at the traffic light.
     
    In Ajijic, on the malecón at Calle del Paseo (the street that runs parallel to the malecón.)
     
    In Jocotepec at the Regional Hospital on the carretera.
     
    He says you need to bring: your registration doc from mivacuna.gob.mx, the original and a copy of your INE (for expats, make a copy of your temporal/permanente), your CURP and proof of address.

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    Governor Alfaro announced around 8:30 pm tonight that part of the newly-arrived shipment of 54,000 doses of Sinovac Covid-19 vaccine is destined for Chapala and Jocotepec. 

    "Me da gusto informar que hace unos momentos llegaron a Jalisco alrededor de 54 mil dosis de la vacuna Sinovac que, según el Plan Nacional de Vacunación, serán aplicadas la semana que viene en 11 municipios más: San Juan de los Lagos, Encarnación de Díaz, Jocotepec, Tizapán El Alto, Zapotlán del Rey, Tuxcueca, Ocotlán, La Barca, Chapala, Ciudad Guzmán y Zapotlán El Grande. Desde ya estaremos trabajando con los municipios para ayudar en todo lo necesario. Seguiremos informando."
     

    Actual dates and locations have not yet been released for Chapala but Jocotepec just posted their vaccine schedule from 8-4 on Weds-Fri, 17-19 at the Community Hospital. NOTE: Joco is asking for original and copy of one's proof of address.  🌐 #Vacunas | Los días 17, 18 y 19 de marzo, en #Jocotepec se aplicarán vacunas contra #COVID_19 a personas de la 3ra edad. Las vacunas se aplicarán en el Hospital Comunitario Jocotepec, en un horario: 8:00 am a 4.00 pm.

    In previous Covid-19 vaccine administrations, IMSS clinics, schools, convention areas have been used. The IMSS clinic in Seis Esquinas was previously announced as the Ajijic location; there is an IMSS location in Chapala at Flavio Romero as well. Of course, things change and hopefully more locations will be added. FUN FACT: 15.4 percent of Jalisco’s over 65 population resides in the municipality of Chapala; NOT SO FUN FACT: people over age 60 are eligible, so expect longer lines in the municipality than in a community with a bunch of youngsters, as more of us are eligible. Out-of-the way locations tend to get fewer people than busy, central vaccination locations.

     
    I’ve been checking with already-vaccinated people and the process seems fairly consistent from community to community. You need to take the following documents with you:
    • Your printed CURP
    • Official ID (permanente, temporal, INE if you are Mexican); make a copy in case they want it.
    • Proof of address, such as your CFE or Telmex bill (some places do not require, some do); again, a copy in case they want it.
    • The printout of your mivacuna.salud.gob.mx registration. If you have not yet registered, see the web address in this bullet point to register, then print your confirmation. 
     
    In other Covid-19 vaccine locations here in Mexico the process has been this: One stands in line; usual opening time is 8 am. If you get there earlier, expect the line to have formed already as it is more comfortable to wait in the dark/shade than it is in afternoon sun. Be advised that some people line up more than two hours early. You’ll at some point get a number in the queue. 
     
    Take sunglasses and a hat; water; many people took some type of seating, especially if you have an issue standing for hours. Social distancing, masking and all safety precautions are recommended, but picture a gazillion seniors in line at Seis Esquinas and you have an idea of what you’ll face. Unless they’ve improved the process, you likely will wait hours. And more hours. The line moves, in spurts. The reason it stops at times for longer periods is that after you get your shot, a group of a predetermined size waits together to ensure there is no adverse reaction from the vaccine, as well as it allows them time to prepare, process, and distribute to you your updated paperwork that shows which vaccine and lot you received, and when your return date is. That will take 15-30 minutes for each group. MAKE A COPY OF THIS DOCUMENT IN CASE YOU LOSE IT; PERHAPS STORE IT IN YOUR PHONE as well.
     
    HERE IS THE PROCESS MOST SITES HAVE FOLLOWED IN JALISCO: The health brigadiers have you fill out a form that functions as your registration; they'll get information from your CURP and Permanente/Temporal/INE cards. You also will be asked to communicate your telephone number, email, and zip code. If that will be difficult for you to provide in Spanish or would slow the line for others behind you, print this information neatly on a paper and take it with you to hand to the volunteer registrar. They'll fill in other details, such as the location where you are vaccinated and that location's federal health ID, called a CLUES.
     
    Next, you answer the following questions on the registration form by checking the appropriate box (yes or no): Do you present comorbidities? HIV (VIH in Spanish), diabetes, obesity, hypertension COPD (EPOC in Spanish), cerebrovascular, asthma, chronic renal issues, currently in treatment for cancer, immunosuppression. “YES” TO ANY OF THESE IS OK—It is to track comorbidities, not to exclude you.
     
    You also will be asked if you have been vaccinated in the last 30 days against: Influenza, Hepatitis B, or Measles/Mumps/Rubella (SR in Spanish). “YES” TO ANY OF THESE MAY EXCLUDE YOU from being vaccinated at this time. Multiple vaccines within 21 days lowers their efficiency, which is the reason for this question.
     
    At the end, you will get a receipt with info that includes your name and CURP, details on your vaccination dose and lot/batch number, some info on the vaccinator, and your return date for the second shot. (SInovac is a two-dose vaccine.) Keep that in a safe place for your second vaccine appointment.
     
    I hope this helps you prepare for your vaccine.
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  9. 12 minutes ago, cedros said:

    Yes, there doesn't appear to be much information on mixinfg vaccines. Should you mix and match COVID-19 vaccines? Scientists are seeking answers | Science | AAAS (sciencemag.org)es, there doesn't appear to be much nformation on mixing vaccines.

     

    Covid trial in UK examines mixing different vaccines - BBC News

    Yes, this Oxford study is just starting but looks promising as the world deals with supply-chain and distribution issues and local availability of different manufacturers increases. I find it interesting that their study is AZ followed y Pfizer; as the AZ is a viral-vector and the Pfizer is m-RNA. I would have thought that the J&J (and the Sputnik V) would have been more directly compatible, as both are VV's. 

    Ideally, for now, the same vaccine for both shots is a logical choice; if supply dictates otherwise, decisions will have to be made.

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  10. 51 minutes ago, Mostlylost said:

    Most experts are stating if you are taking a vaccine that requires 2 doses it is better to take the same vaccine for those two doses.

    As to appointments  Are you in the USA?  If so what state? What vaccine did you receive?

    My GP also says it is best to take the same vaccine, which makes a lot of sense to me.  I've had one AstraZeneca in Mexico and have shot 2 scheduled. My concern is that the AZ seems to be delayed in re-supply here. If I have to decide at that moment, what do I do: permit them to substitute with another vaccine or do I voluntarily delay the scheduled second dose, hoping they will get more AZ in during the 30-day window? (Research is showing longer wait times between AZ doses, from 56-86 days, has increased benefits.) So, I'm doing heavy research so I have as much information to help me decide at that moment: do I take a second/different vaccine if AstraZeneca is not offered for Shot 2 or do I choose to delay to hopefully get the same, second shot. I am still on multiple lists in TX but AstraZeneca looks like it won't get approval till the end of April in the US. So, I research and wait.

     

  11. 6 hours ago, southland said:

    Skimmed the thread, and to add a couple notes:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2021/02/25/pfizers-covid-vaccine-doesnt-need-ultra-cold-storage-fda-says/?sh=76aa50fd226e

     

    Secondly, not to be in any way argumentative, but Mostly Lost, may I ask where the information came from that mixing vaccines is o.k.?

    Part of one personal plan I had was to get a vaccine here, and then another in the U.S. To my knowledge, the U.S. is not offering Chinese vaccines whereas 50 million Chinese vaccines were ordered into Mexico.

    I thus emailed a U.S. research and teaching professor in microbio and chemistry (30 years) if I could or should mix vaccine different types. He said as of two weeks ago, that not enough information is available to make the determination of safety of mixing vaccines.

    Anyway, if you have a good source that it is o.k. to mix vaccine types, that would be a big help for many people. Indeed, if anyone knows mixing vaccines is dangerous, that would be helpful too. For now, personally, I am wary and reluctant to mix vaccines.

    I'm in a similar situation and researching the topic. There seems to be little true case studies on having a dose of two different vaccines. Some very small studies from AstraZeneca, albeit with not a lot of information, seem to imply that switching vaccines may be an advantage in protecting people from the variants. It's a bit soon to tell, but I've had one shot and am trying to see what to do when my second shot comes up; I'm on a dozen waiting lists and don't know how to respond when my second vaccine comes due.

     

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  12. 59 minutes ago, cedros said:

    It will take forever for people to fill these forms out at time of vaccination. Much better to have as much of the forms filled out in advance otherwise things will slow to a crawl. There are 3 forms that should be done in advance-Expediente de Vacunacion Contra La Virus, Comprobante de Vacunacxion Contra La Covid-19 and Registro Adicional de Personal De  Premiera Linea, the 4th page is to be filled out for the second vaccation. the 5th page describes what shows proof of address.

    To clarify: people in line for the vaccine don't fill out any of these forms: the brigadiers at Registration (pre-vaccine) check your documents, complete the form (you need to be able to communicate your address, zip code, phone number and email--if you can't speak sufficient Spanish, write these down on a paper you can hand to the volunteer), then deliver the form they complete to you post-vaccine. And yes, the wait has been long; the process three-part: Registration, injection, checking for symptoms/handing to you the completed form.

  13. Thank you,  Cedros. I think I can shed some light for you and others who may be wondering what this is. There is nothing in your attachments to worry about nor fill out prior to receiving your vaccine. Three pages are partial scans of one page of internal paperwork that will be completed by frontline providers and handed to you as you wait to ensure that you don't present any immediately abnormal reaction to the vaccine you receive. You'll get the original, completed in full. For those who received their vaccine in the US, it serves the same function as the small card you get that details the specifics of your first, then second, administered dosage.

    From what you sent, in the order received, I see three partial scans of a single blank form/receipt the brigadiers give you after your first shot; this serves as your "receipt" for the second vaccine; it shows details specific to your vaccine such as the brand, the lot number, date/location/details of administration and, at the bottom, shows the earliest date you can return for the second shot. This form is filled out by the healthcare workers who administer the vaccine to you--there is no part of this form that requires the recipient of the vaccine to complete anything. It will be handed to you, completed and signed by the designee where you get your vaccine.

    The third of the four scans (the green one) is a registration form to be completed by supplemental healthcare workers/frontline providers of the vaccine, known here as the brigadiers, to identify them and to whom they report. It is not for any of us receiving the vaccine, but instead looks at a way to sign in and identify volunteer personnel in the vaccine venue.

    OH...in your post (but it did not appear in the four scans) it says you need two COPIES of your CURP and official ID. I'd take originals and two copies of each, plus two copies of a residency verification, just in case. You know how Mexico loves its copies. Registrars may not keep them or ask for them...this need for copies does not appear anywhere on the federal website of requirements, although ID can be requested (but photos of them, and you, per López-Gatell, are illegal. 

    Today, Governor Alfaro says he has no idea when specific areas will receive the vaccine, that Jalisco is following the federal distribution plan. I can't find anything today that lists future sites, just Tlaquepaque ended today (per the Guv) and it appears Tonalá may be upcoming (per news media).

    I hope this helps put people at ease.

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  14. We get the same message...starting religiously at 8:01 pm every night and it lasts till somewhere around 11 pm. I can be watching a show  from 7-8, continue with the beginning of a show on those particular channels that start to broadcast at 8 pm then POOF! at 8:01 we get the message above. (NBC is our nemesis, on both feeds we receive.) I reached our to our contact in Alberta who says there's not much she can do; Shaw will want to send a tech out to check the system and we all know that's not possible.

  15. On 2/23/2021 at 2:54 PM, elevator said:

     And we have not heard from them. Has anyone gotten the confirmation phone call.

    Yes, got my call 2 1/2 weeks ago. The caller confirmed (1) I still wanted the vaccine and (2) I was physically able to get to the designated vaccination site. She also said the second of two calls should come by mid-March, assigning a vaccine date and time for the designated "local" site. 

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