Report Just for fun - don't have a heart attack! in Ajijic/Chapala/Guadalajara Posted just now Saying climate change is occurring is like saying the sun comes up every morning. It's a given at least until it isn't. Read a really good apocalyptic Sci Fi story on the latter years ago. Scary. Saying one can deal with it by signing treaties where the world's greatest polluters are allowed to pollute at will for the next 9 years, one of whom BTW is now building the world's largest coal fired power plant and cranking out the most cars of any country, really calls into question the rationality of the adherents of same. It's like trying to put out a fire that two people are throwing gasoline on by sanctioning the guy with the teaspoon while ignoring the guy with the bucket. And Alan, I'm sorry that the strain of backing up your position on the subject reference is so stressful it would cause a heart attack. Maybe some of that Tequila medication Angus suggested is in order... Is the real problem here the adherents of this still unproven notion hate to be reminded of how often they have been wrong in their apocalyptic predictions? We had all better hope you are just wrong because if you are right by the time it happens everyone will have ignored the real warning because of all the false ones.