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its not costs, its monthly financial income qualifications. If i applied for permamente at the consulate they say I need $4751 of after tax pension income or $190 K in savings. That is a lot. However when i multiply 500 x the UMA it comes out to about $2600 by doing it in mexico.

i suspected it, but it surpised me how much lower the financial requirements are compared to what they are initially, trying to go permanente in Canada

Is there still a fine during the 55 days? As far as convincing immigration. I have the immigration regs on my server. They are at https://mexicocaravans.com/Reglamento.pdf I intend to have these printed out and ready to show immigration. I guess if they give me a hassle I will ask to see the aduana. Unless your agent teresa can prewarn them I am coming. Its in section 160 on page 56.

Can anyone explain going permanente while you are temporal before your 4 years are up? It looks like you have to prove financials 500 x UMA. Anyone have any idea what that amount translates to? If the daily rate is about 87 pesos, as I found on one site, that works out to about $2700 a month Canadian. If correct, that is considerably less than the $4751 it shows to go to permanete to start with on teh consul page. I would like to convert as soon as i no longer need my Canadian plated vehicle in Mexico. With the experience of covid, I am always concerned about being out of Mexico when my 4 years is up. Heck I could be in hospital in Canada, there could be another pandemic, an asteroid strike, or who knows what. As soon as my vehicle is out, I want to control the timeframe.

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my wife does. Not a big deal, originally it was supposed to be June

heck try that in canada and you would get a $4000 fine, max is set at $750,000 but normally they have been fining $4000.

when i did it at another consulate, I just printed out my bank statements then had the bank stamp each one

Thanks Sonia. That will make it easier. One question. I have an address in Barra Navidad, Jal. If I have your agent in PV do my renewal, do I need to change that to an address in PV? Still in Jalisco. I am guessing the INM office in Melaque still takes 3 weeks or so.

they are a lot stricter at the Canada/Us border, they wont let anyone cross period without an american passport, you can't even transit to mexico if you have a resident card

They sure jumped in Vancouver. Direct to permanente is now out of reach for most retirees, $4750 a month in after tax income or $190,000 in the bank. My wife would just squeak under that for monthly income, I would not. If we can't get back in time to renew our temporal, I guess we will redo it all by having her go permanente, me temporal, then I apply for permanente tied to her. Still trying to find out from Teresa in PV if expiry renewals are now allowed past the 55 day period. She said she woudl check with INM when she can. With 2 friends dead of covid, I am not willing to get on a plane, I am in the high risk group, plus my aging parents need me in Canada right now. She did say they can now do them in one day in PV. That is good news, anyway.

still no covid payments for disabled

Medipac was selling travel insurance to the USA to those wishing to transit to Canada by car or RV northbound with proof of IMSS or Seguro Popular coverage. They have now just stopped doing that. You have to purchase insurance before you leave Canada covering the entire period you are out of Canada which is very expensive. I have found some US based companies that will cover the 5 days it takes to transit the US to Canada. The maximum amounts are 50 to 150K depending on company and your age. That may be enough especially if you have skymed or something like that as well, but under some circumstances it may not. I still have to check if Canadian car insurance covers medical if you are in an accident. Medipac covered up to a few million. Does anyone here know of a Mexican company that will sell travel insurance for the US if you are a Mexican resident?, Does anyone know of a Canadian company that will cover you? The only way around this otherwise is to leave my car in Mexico and take a flight to Canada, buy the insurance and fly back.

the operative word was "IF"

i booked a flight back there in November. No center seat occupants, 2 weeks later they announce they are going to sell center seats. That puts you 12 inches away from someone exhaling and at some point they are going to remove their mask to eat or drink something.

That works in countries Like the US and Canada, but in a country with little safety net, people will take chances because they have no option, so I have to wonder how well it will work. People squawk about shutting down economies in the US and Canada, but they have it good. My parents who lived through the Blitz and rationing say this is nothing in comparison. Still the pits, however.

you would think it would be getting cleaner. The mountains here in Vancouver are the clearest I can remember.

i suspect the same may be true in the US with some areas getting 35% positives. I actually wonder if we are going to see partial herd immunity. If we assume people who have had it can't transmit it, then the number of transmitters will drop and in theory the spread will drop. Nice to think, but a crappy way to get there. It wouldl be nice if it can get down to a manageable level until a vaccine appears. Friends of mine in Melaque have it, he is in hospital in Manzanillo. Hardly any there, but tour buses from Guadalajara started to appear again. I am glad i decided to return to BC (Canada). Did that mainly because of my parents who are in their mid 90's, but the situation here is really good, probably the best on the continent except the far north. We are in phase 3. Now I am trapped for a few months, the US border is closed although maybe with a resident card I could transit. Booked flights for nov 5th, but not sure I will use them.

well may as well resurrect this. I am thinking it is different province by province. There is a guy in Calgary trying to sell an Jalisco plated vehicle back to mexico. They allowed him 3 months. Issue is the border is closed, but they may let someone transit with a resident card. BC ownt let you take one in, a friend had to store his below the border. Maybe with the new NAFTA, rules will change. Now I have a question. With residente permanente, can I drive a Canadian plated car in the Sonora free zone (No TIP required). I would like to store a Mexican car in san carlos and do a swap over. I suspect if I can't all I have to do is add my son or brother to the registration and carry a letter.

Spencer, when I enter next Oct, my RT expires in Jan, when I get the new card, can I somehow send you what you need to do it for me, assuming they won't give me a 180 day when I cross? I will try but I suspect they will tie it to my 1 year RT.

HMM, just out of curiosity what about a canadian vehicle that has since been nationalized in mexico? I od know someone who was truend back at th eborder. The mexican plated car was being towed by his RV, he had to store it in the US until he went back south. I am wondering how the new USMCA may affect this: For greater certainty, no Party may adopt or maintain a prohibition or restriction on the importation of originating used vehicles from the territory of another Party after January 1, 2019. This Article shall not prevent a Party from applying motor vehicle safety or emissions measures, or vehicle registration requirements, of general application to originating used vehicles in a manner consistent with this Agreement.

Car dollies: Anyone using one, and do you register it at the border? I will be towing a Honda Fit with my motorhome, but I need a 10 year tip on the motorhome as I want to leave it in Mexico. If they add the dolly chances are it will become a 180 day. That is what happened when I towed a cargo trailer in. I may put a bolt on hitch onto the Honda and add it to that one's 180 day, if I have to. I could tow it home empty even with a car that small. The dolly has no place to mount a plate. It needs one in BC. I have it in my glovebox. I would prefer to leave it with the motorhome in Mexico. I will be buying a mexican plated vehicle once I get residente, and may want to use it still.

The car won't be leaving mexico, storing it in my brothe rin laws garage while flying out. I did actually drive my truck back home one christmas and reenter on the same TIP & tourist card. I always cancel the TIP on leaving mexico even with a 10 year. I have seen the scenario you describe more than once. I am now hearing you can actually can have a foreign plated RV in mexico under a 10 year TIP with residente permanente status. if true I do need to confirm this but that is what is looks like on the SATsite and I know a couple that are doing that. I need to have my Mexican partner call SAT and confirm or debunk that. Under regs for cars, they distinctly state you cannot have a foreign plated car when you have permanente. In the section on Casa Rodantes there is no mention of it. Its a new one on me. and Sonia too, if true. I suspect you cannot get a 10 year if you already have permanente, but I am thinking if you already have it, they dont care. Probably can't renew it. If you can read Spanish check it out. Its there in English as well, but I dont trust anything but the spanish version. A mistranslation on truck weights on the banjercito site has caused all sorts of issues with that issue. http://omawww.sat.gob.mx/aduanas/vehiculos/importacion_temporal/Paginas/automoviles.aspx http://omawww.sat.gob.mx/aduanas/vehiculos/importacion_temporal/Paginas/casas_rodantes.aspx

yes but no plate mount, I just carry it in the glove box. In Bc they have to be licensed

just 10 years would work. I am 70, by the time I am 80 I wont care about Rving. it would be nice to be able to leave it in mexico and go straight to residente permanente without having to remove it or nationalize it. I took it out last year and cancelled the 10 year on it. I was going to bring it in this year under my wifes name. Towing a car, but I would use that to get back to Canada 6 months later. I would like to leave the tow dolly down but I may be forced to tow that back with the car (honda fit) , empty.